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    • CapemanC
      Capeman @caver01
      last edited by

      @caver01 I use lf-finalburnalpha, i use the neo geo system separate so all my roms are in:
      /home/pi/retropie/roms/neogeo

      I took the neogeo.zip file and unzipped it to a folder called neogeo on my mac, then i uploaded the whole folder to the directory above via ssh.
      /home/pi/retropie/roms/neogeo/neogeo <-- this folder contained all the bios

      Vector Artist, Designer and Maker of Stuff: Laser Cut Atari / Pixel Theme Bartop

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      • CapemanC
        Capeman @Capeman
        last edited by Capeman

        @caver01 Also, double check your emulator, you might have the arcade folder defaulting to MAME, i havent tested this method with mame and it might not work. I'm definitely using FBA and the zip folder is long gone.

        Vector Artist, Designer and Maker of Stuff: Laser Cut Atari / Pixel Theme Bartop

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        • cyperghostC
          cyperghost
          last edited by cyperghost

          @caver01 Well didn't know that there is no solution for this old topic. As linux is case sensitive we can have multiple instances of the "same" file ;)

          Be carefull - Case sensitive

          Rename neogeo.zip to neogeo.ZiP

          That's all ;) I think extracting is a whole mess I would avoid for the sake of 1 entry
          And changing the entries in es_systems.cfgis also bad :)

          This "trick" works only for arcade and fba but not for NEOGEO ;) But I think that's a bug in ES
          @capeman said in hiding bios file.:

          @lostless said in hiding bios file.:

          Hey all, Ive found the easiest solution to this issue. Just unzip the neo-geo.zip file and put the now neo-geo folder into your Neo Geo games folder. since none of the files in the bios are .zip, the whole folder is hidden. The bios doesn't have to be zipped up.

          I can confirm this works, thanks for the tip!

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          • lostlessL
            lostless @cyperghost
            last edited by

            @cyperghost no it’s working in the neogeo folder for me.

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            • caver01C
              caver01 @Capeman
              last edited by caver01

              @capeman Yes, see above. I listed all of the paths and everything. I am doing exactly what you say you are doing, but lr-fbalpha is apparently not finding the BIOS files in the properly named folder. I also understand how to select emulators using runcommand. lr-mame2003 is the default for me in the Arcade folder, but for these roms I am using lr-fbalpha.

              @meleu I will give that command a try tonight--away from my Pi for most of the day. Thanks.

              @cyperghost The whole point of this exercise is to avoid 1 entry. Extracting may seem like overkill to you, but we want a solution, not a rationalization. Also, changing cases of characters does not work for me. It hides the entry, but does not launch.

              Is it possible I have a permissions issue on the folder that gets created when I unzip? I am doing the unzip over the network--connected to the ROMs mount via Samba from my mac.

              My 4-player cocktail style cabinet built as a custom "roadcase"

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              • cyperghostC
                cyperghost @lostless
                last edited by cyperghost

                @lostless It depends which emulator u use. I tried to 7zip the file and it worked for lr-pifba but not for pifba. And I edited the entry in my posting. Changing the characters of the BIOS works for arcade-folder and fba-folder but not for NEOGEO :(

                @caver01 It's a pitty it is not working for you. For me it's working to mix upper-lower character for suffix ... but I can't hide the file via upper-lower-case-mix if I put it in NEOGEO folder. So sorry my way of rationalization is not working for you.

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                • lostlessL
                  lostless @caver01
                  last edited by

                  @caver01 said in hiding bios file.:

                  Is it possible I have a permissions issue on the folder that gets created when I unzip? I am doing the unzip over the network--connected to the ROMs mount via Samba from my mac.

                  Try using the unarchchiver on Mac. It’s what I used. It’s in the App Store. Could be that apples own unzipping program is messing with permissions.

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                  • caver01C
                    caver01 @lostless
                    last edited by

                    @lostless said in hiding bios file.:

                    @caver01 said in hiding bios file.:

                    Is it possible I have a permissions issue on the folder that gets created when I unzip? I am doing the unzip over the network--connected to the ROMs mount via Samba from my mac.

                    Try using the unarchchiver on Mac. It’s what I used. It’s in the App Store. Could be that apples own unzipping program is messing with permissions.

                    This I kinda doubt because I was able to unzip the bios, unzip mslug, rezip the combined, and it plays fine with everything.

                    I would rather not have to do that for every neogeo game however.

                    My 4-player cocktail style cabinet built as a custom "roadcase"

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                    • lostlessL
                      lostless
                      last edited by

                      @caver01 I have no idea. I’ve done it with 2 setups already and it works. I don’t know what could be wrong with your setup.

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                      • caver01C
                        caver01 @lostless
                        last edited by

                        @lostless That's OK. It is odd. I will pursue the folder permissions idea later, and report back for others if I figure it out.

                        My 4-player cocktail style cabinet built as a custom "roadcase"

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                        • RiverstormR
                          Riverstorm @caver01
                          last edited by

                          @caver01 said in hiding bios file.:

                          I would rather not have to do that for every neogeo game however.

                          You might know this already but you can use ClrMamePro to build partial non-merged sets with only the game/ROMs you want. Basically dump all the neogeo sets and the bios into ClrMamePro and let it do the work. You'll get a lot of errors of other incomplete sets but the neogeo sets will be complete with BIOS.

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                          • caver01C
                            caver01 @Riverstorm
                            last edited by

                            @riverstorm Yeah, I know that's how it is supposed to work. I have a terrible time with clrmamepro. I shouldn't complain about a tedious manual process on the one hand, and then refuse to use the automation tool on the other, but that's what I am doing.

                            My 4-player cocktail style cabinet built as a custom "roadcase"

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                            • RiverstormR
                              Riverstorm @caver01
                              last edited by Riverstorm

                              @caver01 said in hiding bios file.:

                              I shouldn't complain about a tedious manual process on the one hand, and then refuse to use the automation tool on the other, but that's what I am doing.

                              No that's ok I just wanted to throw it out there just in case. I remember banging my head a few times figuring out ClrMamePro now I don't know what I would do without it. Hopefully like someone mentioned earlier it'll be a check box or radio button down the road to get rid of that pesky file once in for all. :)

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                              • caver01C
                                caver01 @meleu
                                last edited by

                                @meleu said in hiding bios file.:

                                ls -l /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/arcade/neogeo

                                pi@retropie:~ $ ls -l /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/arcade/neogeo
total 3968
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 000-lo.lo
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 asia-s3.rom
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 japan-j3.bin
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 sfix.sfix
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 sm1.sm1
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 sp1.jipan.1024
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 sp-1v1_3db8c.bin
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 524288 Dec 24  1996 sp-45.sp1
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 sp-e.sp1
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 sp-j2.sp1
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 sp-s2.sp1
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 sp-s.sp1
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 sp-u2.sp1
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 uni-bios_1_0.rom
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 uni-bios_1_1.rom
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 uni-bios_1_2o.rom
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 uni-bios_1_2.rom
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 uni-bios_1_3.rom
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 uni-bios_2_0.rom
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 uni-bios_2_1.rom
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 uni-bios_2_2.rom
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 uni-bios_2_3o.rom
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 uni-bios_2_3.rom
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 uni-bios_3_0.rom
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 uni-bios_3_1.rom
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 uni-bios_3_2.rom
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 v2.bin
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 vs-bios.rom

                                My 4-player cocktail style cabinet built as a custom "roadcase"

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                                • RiverstormR
                                  Riverstorm
                                  last edited by Riverstorm

                                  Does this work for lr-fbalpha with roms with the FBA folder?

                                  I tried this over the weekend and it didn't work for me either. I unzipped the neogeo ROM set to a folder under ~/RetroPie/roms/fba/neogeoand I also tried ~/RetroPie/roms/fba/neogeo/neogeo but neither was a success.

                                  If it's a game that requires the BIOS files such as Metal Slug it starts and drops back to the game selection menu. If it's a game that doesn't require the BIOS files it works fine.

                                  Everything works fine if they (BIOS files) are in neogeo.zip alongside the ROM sets.

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                                  • lostlessL
                                    lostless @Riverstorm
                                    last edited by

                                    @riverstorm or-fbalpha is exactly what I use. I have no idea what’s going on with others. I’ve gotten it to work on 2 copies of retropie. Try fixing permissions from the retropie menu. Somewhere in there is an option to reset the rom folder permissions

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                                    • RiverstormR
                                      Riverstorm @lostless
                                      last edited by Riverstorm

                                      @lostless said in hiding bios file.:

                                      Try fixing permissions from the retropie menu. Somewhere in there is an option to reset the rom folder permissions

                                      I do not believe it's a folder permissions issue. I manually create folders when logged in as pi. Current permissions shown below.

                                      /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/fba

                                      • Group: pi [1000]
                                      • Owner: pi [1000]

                                      EDIT: I am using RetroPie 4.3 updated to 4.3.3.

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                                      • lostlessL
                                        lostless @Riverstorm
                                        last edited by

                                        @riverstorm I’ll give the fba folder a try. It works in the neogeo foldwr

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                                        • caver01C
                                          caver01
                                          last edited by

                                          Well, I looked at permissions too as you can see in my ls command output. Pi Pi, and no different than any other files (zip files) that are otherwise working.

                                          I think I need to do some digging in the logs and see what is appearing there. Neither MAME nor FBA will open a NeoGeo game unless the BIOS files are merged into the game ROM, or they are next to it in a neogeo.zip file. Using just a neogeo folder inside the roms folder just isn't working.

                                          I can try the neogeo roms folder as a test, but I need it to work inside my arcade roms folder. I am not interested in separating my games by NeoGeo or by emulator. That kinda defeats the point of using Arcade.

                                          @Riverstorm at least you are seeing the same thing that I am. Are you using the unibios? @lostless Does your neogeo bios folder contain the same files as mine?

                                          My 4-player cocktail style cabinet built as a custom "roadcase"

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                                          • RiverstormR
                                            Riverstorm @caver01
                                            last edited by Riverstorm

                                            @caver01 said in hiding bios file.:

                                            @Riverstorm at least you are seeing the same thing that I am. Are you using the unibios?

                                            Yes but my files are slightly different. I think I ran it through ClrMamePro. I usually let it decide from version to version what files are needed but it's been a few versions ago so it might be out of date for some games but works for what I play.

                                            I don't have a lot of games in FBA (mainly the Metal Slug series) but the ones I do have have all been tested and work fine. The only way I can get them to run correctly was when they are zipped in an archive as I've always done. Any folder structure didn't work.

                                            10/23/2017  12:43 PM    <DIR>          .
10/23/2017  12:43 PM    <DIR>          ..
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 000-lo.lo
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 asia-s3.rom
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 japan-j3.bin
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 neo-epo.bin
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 neo-po.bin
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 neodebug.bin
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 sfix.sfix
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 sm1.sm1
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 sp-1v1_3db8c.bin
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           524,288 sp-45.sp1
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 sp-e.sp1
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 sp-j2.sp1
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 sp-s.sp1
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 sp-s2.sp1
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 sp-u2.sp1
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 sp1.jipan.1024
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 uni-bios_1_0.rom
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 uni-bios_1_1.rom
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 uni-bios_1_2.rom
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 uni-bios_1_2o.rom
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 uni-bios_1_3.rom
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 uni-bios_2_0.rom
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 uni-bios_2_1.rom
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 uni-bios_2_2.rom
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 uni-bios_2_3.rom
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 uni-bios_2_3o.rom
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 uni-bios_3_0.rom
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 uni-bios_3_1.rom
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 vs-bios.rom
              30 File(s)      4,194,304 bytes
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