hiding bios file.

lostless

Is it possible I have a permissions issue on the folder that gets created when I unzip? I am doing the unzip over the network--connected to the ROMs mount via Samba from my mac.

Try using the unarchchiver on Mac. It’s what I used. It’s in the App Store. Could be that apples own unzipping program is messing with permissions.

caver01

@lostless said in hiding bios file.:

@caver01 said in hiding bios file.:

Is it possible I have a permissions issue on the folder that gets created when I unzip? I am doing the unzip over the network--connected to the ROMs mount via Samba from my mac.

Try using the unarchchiver on Mac. It’s what I used. It’s in the App Store. Could be that apples own unzipping program is messing with permissions.

This I kinda doubt because I was able to unzip the bios, unzip mslug, rezip the combined, and it plays fine with everything.

I would rather not have to do that for every neogeo game however.

lostless

@caver01 I have no idea. I’ve done it with 2 setups already and it works. I don’t know what could be wrong with your setup.

caver01

@lostless That's OK. It is odd. I will pursue the folder permissions idea later, and report back for others if I figure it out.

Riverstorm

@caver01 said in hiding bios file.:

I would rather not have to do that for every neogeo game however.

You might know this already but you can use ClrMamePro to build partial non-merged sets with only the game/ROMs you want. Basically dump all the neogeo sets and the bios into ClrMamePro and let it do the work. You'll get a lot of errors of other incomplete sets but the neogeo sets will be complete with BIOS.

caver01

@riverstorm Yeah, I know that's how it is supposed to work. I have a terrible time with clrmamepro. I shouldn't complain about a tedious manual process on the one hand, and then refuse to use the automation tool on the other, but that's what I am doing.

Riverstorm

@caver01 said in hiding bios file.:

I shouldn't complain about a tedious manual process on the one hand, and then refuse to use the automation tool on the other, but that's what I am doing.

No that's ok I just wanted to throw it out there just in case. I remember banging my head a few times figuring out ClrMamePro now I don't know what I would do without it. Hopefully like someone mentioned earlier it'll be a check box or radio button down the road to get rid of that pesky file once in for all. :)

caver01

@meleu said in hiding bios file.:

ls -l /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/arcade/neogeo

pi@retropie:~ $ ls -l /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/arcade/neogeo
total 3968
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 000-lo.lo
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 asia-s3.rom
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 japan-j3.bin
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 sfix.sfix
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 sm1.sm1
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 sp1.jipan.1024
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 sp-1v1_3db8c.bin
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 524288 Dec 24  1996 sp-45.sp1
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 sp-e.sp1
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 sp-j2.sp1
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 sp-s2.sp1
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 sp-s.sp1
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 sp-u2.sp1
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 uni-bios_1_0.rom
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 uni-bios_1_1.rom
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 uni-bios_1_2o.rom
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 uni-bios_1_2.rom
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 uni-bios_1_3.rom
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 uni-bios_2_0.rom
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 uni-bios_2_1.rom
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 uni-bios_2_2.rom
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 uni-bios_2_3o.rom
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 uni-bios_2_3.rom
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 uni-bios_3_0.rom
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 uni-bios_3_1.rom
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 uni-bios_3_2.rom
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 v2.bin
-rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 131072 Dec 24  1996 vs-bios.rom

Riverstorm

Does this work for lr-fbalpha with roms with the FBA folder?

I tried this over the weekend and it didn't work for me either. I unzipped the neogeo ROM set to a folder under ~/RetroPie/roms/fba/neogeoand I also tried ~/RetroPie/roms/fba/neogeo/neogeo but neither was a success.

If it's a game that requires the BIOS files such as Metal Slug it starts and drops back to the game selection menu. If it's a game that doesn't require the BIOS files it works fine.

Everything works fine if they (BIOS files) are in neogeo.zip alongside the ROM sets.

lostless

@riverstorm or-fbalpha is exactly what I use. I have no idea what’s going on with others. I’ve gotten it to work on 2 copies of retropie. Try fixing permissions from the retropie menu. Somewhere in there is an option to reset the rom folder permissions

Riverstorm

@lostless said in hiding bios file.:

Try fixing permissions from the retropie menu. Somewhere in there is an option to reset the rom folder permissions

I do not believe it's a folder permissions issue. I manually create folders when logged in as pi. Current permissions shown below.

/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/fba

Group: pi [1000]
Owner: pi [1000]

EDIT: I am using RetroPie 4.3 updated to 4.3.3.

lostless

@riverstorm I’ll give the fba folder a try. It works in the neogeo foldwr

caver01

Well, I looked at permissions too as you can see in my ls command output. Pi Pi, and no different than any other files (zip files) that are otherwise working.

I think I need to do some digging in the logs and see what is appearing there. Neither MAME nor FBA will open a NeoGeo game unless the BIOS files are merged into the game ROM, or they are next to it in a neogeo.zip file. Using just a neogeo folder inside the roms folder just isn't working.

I can try the neogeo roms folder as a test, but I need it to work inside my arcade roms folder. I am not interested in separating my games by NeoGeo or by emulator. That kinda defeats the point of using Arcade.

@Riverstorm at least you are seeing the same thing that I am. Are you using the unibios? @lostless Does your neogeo bios folder contain the same files as mine?

Riverstorm

@caver01 said in hiding bios file.:

@Riverstorm at least you are seeing the same thing that I am. Are you using the unibios?

Yes but my files are slightly different. I think I ran it through ClrMamePro. I usually let it decide from version to version what files are needed but it's been a few versions ago so it might be out of date for some games but works for what I play.

I don't have a lot of games in FBA (mainly the Metal Slug series) but the ones I do have have all been tested and work fine. The only way I can get them to run correctly was when they are zipped in an archive as I've always done. Any folder structure didn't work.

10/23/2017  12:43 PM    <DIR>          .
10/23/2017  12:43 PM    <DIR>          ..
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 000-lo.lo
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 asia-s3.rom
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 japan-j3.bin
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 neo-epo.bin
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 neo-po.bin
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 neodebug.bin
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 sfix.sfix
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 sm1.sm1
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 sp-1v1_3db8c.bin
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           524,288 sp-45.sp1
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 sp-e.sp1
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 sp-j2.sp1
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 sp-s.sp1
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 sp-s2.sp1
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 sp-u2.sp1
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 sp1.jipan.1024
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 uni-bios_1_0.rom
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 uni-bios_1_1.rom
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 uni-bios_1_2.rom
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 uni-bios_1_2o.rom
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 uni-bios_1_3.rom
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 uni-bios_2_0.rom
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 uni-bios_2_1.rom
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 uni-bios_2_2.rom
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 uni-bios_2_3.rom
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 uni-bios_2_3o.rom
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 uni-bios_3_0.rom
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 uni-bios_3_1.rom
12/25/1996  12:32 AM           131,072 vs-bios.rom
              30 File(s)      4,194,304 bytes

Riverstorm

@lostless said in hiding bios file.:

@riverstorm I’ll give the fba folder a try. It works in the neogeo foldwr

I unzipped neogeo.zip directly into the roms folder and it doesn't work that way either.

Is it possible you have the neogeo.zip in with the roms and didn't know it?

The first time I thought it worked but realized I hadn't deleted the neogeo.zip after creating the folder with the files.

lostless

@riverstorm @caver01 well i feel like a horses patoot. I found why mine worked. It wasn't the unzipped bios file. I have a neogeo.zip file in my bios folder. I guess i put one in there a long time ago and each pi i build i just copy over all the bios files. So im assuming that retropie now checks the bios folder for lr-fbalpha. probably a recent update to retroarch cause i dont remember that working.

lostless

UPDATE: it is a update to lr-fbalpha. lr-fbalpha 2012 and standalone FBA still require a zipped neogeo.zip file in the roms folder. NOW WE KNOW

caver01

@lostless so where exactly can I drop my neogeo.zip? Just the root of the bios shared folder (/home/pi/RetroPie/bios)? That’s great news!

lostless

@caver01 yes, just with lr-fbalpha. Mame2003 and the other fba emulators still require it in the roms folder.

dankcushions

just checked the code and yeah it looks like lr-fbalpha looks for the files it needs in the system (BIOS) AND content (rom) folders. i guess you could use the same functionality - for example - to hide parent games in the BIOS directory, if you only wanted to play the clone.