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    Neo Geo and Arcade not showing video previews - Steven Selph Scraper

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    • pjftP
      pjft @swim0311
      last edited by

      @swim0311 as I said: get a program like handbrake and bulk re encode them. It's likely that whoever encoded the arcade videos - or even the software used for it - saves them at an encoding OMX player doesn't work with.

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        barrymossel
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        I am going on vacation today, but if I find the time I will test those videos.

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          gaavoid @swim0311
          last edited by

          @swim0311 The ones I download from screenscraper work fine for the most part (had to switch out a couple that I replaced from emumovies).
          I get better results overall from screenscraper than any other source using sselph's scraper. I then rescraped from the other sources to get a few of the ones not found on screenscraper.

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            barrymossel
            last edited by

            This one doesn't work (which was scraped):
            Nope

            After I run it through Handbrake it works:
            Yay

            Only significant change is the "Planar 4:4:4 YUV" vs. "Planar 4:2:0 YUV" which apparantly is the color space. Can't seem to find anything regarding that though.

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            • pjftP
              pjft
              last edited by pjft

              https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=940721&sid=6f356ce9739689d2dc4d26f6d33b9d2b#p940721

              "If I've interpreted that correctly, that is "High 4:4:4 Predictive Profile (Hi444PP, 244)" (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC) - use avprobe or similar to confirm.
              Only Base, Main, and High profiles are supported."

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                barrymossel
                last edited by

                Ah ok, thanks!

                I guess "high 4:4:4" isn't "high profile" apparantly. Didn't find that naming really clear.

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                • pjftP
                  pjft @barrymossel
                  last edited by

                  @barrymossel not a bother! I spent a lot of time going through that myself, hence the answers.

                  I should add that to a wiki page whenever I get the chance to put something together for the video stuff.

                  Thanks for checking.

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                  • theWinterDojerT
                    theWinterDojer @pjft
                    last edited by

                    @pjft Is OMX on by default?

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                    • pjftP
                      pjft @theWinterDojer
                      last edited by

                      @thewinterdojer no. It certainly shouldn't, at least - if it is it's a bug.

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                      • pjftP
                        pjft
                        last edited by

                        @barrymossel

                        Just a note on this. I happened to find I still had a few videos in my library that weren't rendering, so I had to convert them.

                        The common item on them was the following, from MediaInfo:

                        Writing application                      : Lavf54.20.4
                        Comment                                  : Created with: Mame version 0.162,  / Played by: adolfo69,  / Game name: rbff1 - Real Bout Fatal Fury / Real Bout Garou Densetsu (NGM-095)(NGH-095),  / Date game played: 21 giugno 2015,  / Date video creation: 6 novembre 2015,  / Type: shortplay single-screen,  / Manufacturer: SNK,  / Display resolution: 320x224px,  / Link for info: http://adb.arcadeitalia.net/?mame=rbff1,  / Copyright (C) - All rights reserved - Tutti i marchi e loghi appartengono ai rispettivi proprietari
                        

                        So, I'm led to believe that these arcade videos were created via the in-MAME video capture, which apparently is/was set up to encode and store the videos at that particular profile, at least for the videos that don't work, which explains why it's mostly on the MAME (arcade, NeoGeo) videos that this manifests itself.

                        Not on all, though, but worth noting that.

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                        • theWinterDojerT
                          theWinterDojer @pjft
                          last edited by

                          @pjft

                          Probably dumb question, but is OMX Player used for anything other than playing video snaps? Would it be beneficial to enable it for any reason if I don't have videos loaded?

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                          • pjftP
                            pjft @theWinterDojer
                            last edited by

                            @thewinterdojer It won't have any effect, it's really only for videos - in this case, video snaps. Screensaver videos are always rendered via OMX Player anyway, unless that is disabled.

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                            • theWinterDojerT
                              theWinterDojer @pjft
                              last edited by

                              @pjft Okay thank you. I have it enabled but not currently using snaps, if it doesn't hurt to leave it enabled I will in case I do decide to load some.

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                                Wombat
                                last edited by

                                I had this problem as well. Neo Geo videos wouldn't work with OMX enabled.

                                However, following what others said, I re-encoded the videos using Handbrake. Once completed, they work! Thanks y'all.

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                                  Kairoslair
                                  last edited by

                                  I also had this issue. If you dont feel like re-encoding all those videos tho, the scraper will work for NeoGeo videos. After deleting the images folder and gamelist.xml (only if you've previously scraped), I set console scraper in Selph's Scraper to OVGDB and ran it just for neogeo. It works! EVERY SINGLE rom had a video and they played just fine even with OMX enabled! This worked for me, hope it helps any who run into this issue

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                                    jthemad
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                                    Hi! It is because neogeo is seen as console, but arcade and fba are seen as 'arcade' by sselph scraper, and you can choose only arcadeitalia or screenscraper as source. I tryed both.. with arcadeitalia omx player works but the mp4 files are bigger than screenscraper (more big!). With screenscraper omx players doesn't work on rpi3 (tried on x64 and works). The best solution was update omx player to support arcadeitalia mp4 compressed video, or shrink manually with handbrake software. The problem is that I have 2500 games is arcade folder and shrinking all of theme is a huge work.. anyone has a better solution for this? Thank you all!

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                                    • flagrant99F
                                      flagrant99
                                      last edited by

                                      I just got opposite results. Arcade Italia vids for mame only work with OMX Player OFF. Is it possible to update OMX Player to work with these?

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                                      • pjftP
                                        pjft @flagrant99
                                        last edited by

                                        @flagrant99 OMX Player is not really ours to update, and to the best of my knowledge it hasn't been updated to support that profile.

                                        Read this bug in their repository.

                                        Not supported. Pretty sure no hardware decoder (on any platform) will handle this.
                                        It's not a consumer profile, it's for professional (studio) masters.
                                        We support Blu-Ray quality video (4:2:0 with 8 bits per channel).
                                        This is 4:4:4 with 12 bits per channel. See: http://www.digitalpreservation.gov/formats/fdd/fdd000218.shtml

                                        You may try to update OMXPlayer on your Pi, but I'm not confident anything will have changed in that regard.

                                        Your best option is to either use VLC, or re-encode them, as described in the previous posts.

                                        Sorry about that.

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                                        • akafoxA
                                          akafox
                                          last edited by

                                          I take it you have them downloaded and converted? I downloaded mine on my pc with Steven's scraper as the pi was struggling a little. I had an AWFUL time trying to run the ones from emumovies until I converted then down. (the scraper does that "on the fly")

                                          People want things easy...but then complain that life is boring...

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                                          • flagrant99F
                                            flagrant99
                                            last edited by

                                            Thx for the responses. You are correct looks like High 4:4:4 Predictive Profile will not play in OMX Player. They also will not play on my windows 10 desktop. Seems Most videos scraped from Arcade Italia are High 4:4:4 Predictive Profile. Most videos scraped from screen scraper are not and play fine in OMX Player for me. So I just re-scraped from screen scraper. Here's another interesting link on the many flavors of h.264.
                                            http://blog.mediacoderhq.com/h264-profiles-and-levels/.
                                            Without OMX Player (Hardware acceleration) the High 4:4:4 Predictive Profile play fine as well.

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