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    • dankcushionsD
      dankcushions Global Moderator @darknior
      last edited by

      @darknior mame 0.78 has an x86 dynarec for the MIPS cpu used by killer instinct, so it already runs much quicker on x86 hardware (eg a PC, or the original xbox). pi systems have an ARM cpu, and there is no dynarec for that. their code is not helpful here - i've already looked at it.

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      • darkniorD
        darknior
        last edited by

        @dankcushions Ok i understand it will not help for the CPU because it is not an ARM one for sure.
        But it can help you to take fix for games, and drivers updates adapted for an old MAME. IQ_132 work hard a lot for it ...
        I think it is a good idea ... or maybe not :p

        Life is game, just play it !

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        • darkniorD
          darknior
          last edited by darknior

          So news updates to come :)
          https://github.com/libretro/mame2003-libretro/pull/109

          Life is game, just play it !

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          • markwkiddM
            markwkidd @darknior
            last edited by

            @darknior could you mention any specific games that this fork of MAME is better at than mame2003? That would be a more helpful starting point :D

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            • darkniorD
              darknior
              last edited by

              @markwkidd I don't have test all the games myself ... and for the moment we use LR-FBA & MAME 2003 :p :(
              My friend select FBA for most of games, and they are working fine.
              But we will change ROMSET and settings to use more time MAME 2003. I love to have the CHEAT option for my little children, it is very important because if not, it is so hard and they can't play many games :(
              And in MAME 2003 we also have an INPUT menu to configure PAD for each games.

              • I try Undercover cops : A game i love, on FBA the sound is crappy, on MAME 2010 it is better, but it is only perfect on MAME 2003 !

              But my friend began again to test all the arcade games one by one to make a new working pack for our project. He will try to use most of time with the MAME 2010 version :)
              Like he tell me, the guy of Happy game center write that 2010 version is the best one on PI.

              But you must correct some games like Undercover Cops, and add the CHEAT and INPUT menu to make it perfect.

              • Mame 2003 was 0.78 version.

              • I'm not sure the xBox version was maybe the 0.84

              • The Mame 2010 version is the 0.139

              • Gals panic S & S2 ... : I try them on PI and nothing work with FBA, MAME 2003 & 2010, on xBox they fix these games some years ago ;)

              Adding fixing more than 150 games on xBox MAME : The best ever version for little computers.

              9 Ball Shootout (Now Playable)
              9 Ball Shootout championship Edition
              A.B. Cop (Now Playable)
              Action Fighter (Now Playable)
              Action Hollywood
              Added Sound for all the Rock' N Games
              Added Sound to Fire Barrel and Air Assault 
              Air Rescue (Now Playable)
              Alien Storm official version (Now Playable)
              Arm Champs 2
              Asura Buster
              Battle Balls (Now Playable)
              Battle Shark Joystick Version (Game Controls Perfectly Now)
              Beast Busters (Now Fully Playable)
              Billiard Academy Real Break Euro Version (Now Playable)
              Bloxeed (Now Playable)
              B-Rap Boys (Rollercoaster graphics bug fixed)
              Bullet (Now Playable)
              Chase Bombers (Now Playable)
              Clutch Hitter (Now Playble)
              Cotton (Now Playable)
              Crystal Castles (Joystick Version)
              Cute Fighters
              Daikaiju no Gyakushu (Now Playable)
              DD Crew (Now Playable)
              Denjin Makai (Now Playable)
              Desert Breaker (Now Playble)
              Donkey Kong Rainbow Edition (Now Playable)
              Double Wings
              Downtown Joystick version
              Dragon Ball-Z VRVS (Now Playable)
              Dragon World (Now Has Full Sound)
              Dunk Shot (Now Playable)
              Dyna Gear slowdown issues fixed
              Dynamite Dux official version (Now Playable)
              Eagle Shot Golf (Now Playable)
              E-SWAT Cyber Police official version (Now Playable)
              Excelsior
              Fantasy Zone II (Now Playable)
              Fantasy Zone Time Attack Bootleg (Now Playable)
              Fire Barrel 
              Fire Shark (Now With Proper Sound)
              Fixed the random crashes in Gun Master (Game Now Fully Playable)
              Galaxy Force 2 (Now Playable)
              Gals Panic S3 (Now Playable)
              Gauntlet 2 (World 4 player Version)
              Ghox Joystick Version
              Glass (Now Playable)
              G-LOC Air Battle (Now Playable)
              Great Sluggers 94 (Now Has Sound)
              Guerrilla War Joystick Version
              Guts N Glory (Now Playable)
              Hangzo (Now Playable)
              Hard Times 
              Heavy Smash
              Hot Mind
              Hyper Crash
              Ikari 3 The Rescue (Joystick Version)
              Ikari Warriors Joystick Version
              International Team Laser (Now Playable)
              Joshi Volleyball (Now Playable)
              Kabuki-Z
              Laser Ghost (Now Playable)
              Led Storm Rally 2011 (Now Playable)
              Lethal Enforcers
              Lethal Enforcers 2
              Limited Edition Hang-On (Now Playable)
              Line Of Fire (Now Playable)
              Lord Of Gun (Now Playable No Sound)
              Lucky N Wild (Now Playable)
              Mach Breakers Numen Althletics 2 (Now Has Sound)
              Michael Jackon's Moonwalker official version (Now Playable)
              Midnight Resistance Joystick Bootleg Version (Now Playable)
              Mobil Suit Gundam Final shooting (Now Playable)
              Mouse Shooter GoGo
              MVP (Now Playable)
              Namco Classic Collection vol 2 (Now Playable)
              Nebulas Ray (Now Has Sound)
              Ninja Kazan (English version of Iga Ninjyutsuden)
              Operation wolf 3 (Fixed Controls Game Now Playable)
              Oriental Legend Special/Super (Now Playable)
              Outfoxies (Now Has Sound)
              Passing Shot (Official Version) (Now Playable)
              Photo Y2K (Now Playable)
              Planet Probe (Now Playable)
              Playchoice-10 Baseball Stars Be A Champ
              Playchoice-10 Mario's Open Golf
              Playchoice-10 Metroid
              Pocket Gal Deluxe
              Point Blank (Now Has Sound)
              Pop Bingo (Now Playable)
              Power Drift (Now Playable)
              Power Instinct 2 (USA Version)
              Power Instinct Legends (USA Version)
              Puzzle Stars (Now Playable)
              Rabbit
              Racing Beat
              Racing Hero (Now Playable)
              Raiden Fighters (Now Playable)
              Raiden Fighters 1 2 Jet Single Board Versions (Now Playable)
              Raiden Fighters 1 Single Board Version (Now Playable)
              Raiden Fighters 2 (Now Playable)
              Raiden Fighters 2 2000
              Raiden Fighters jet (Now Playable)
              Raiden Fighters Jet 2000
              Rail Chase (Now Playable)
              Raimais (World Version)
              Rapid Hero (Now Has Full Sound)
              Real & Fake (Now Playable)
              Road Riot 4WD (Fixed Controls Game Now Playable)
              Rock' N 3 
              Rock' N 4 
              Rock' N Tread 2 
              Rolling Crush
              Round Up 5 Super Delta Force
              Sand Scorpion
              Schmeiser Robo (Now Playable)
              Sexy Parodius English Version (Now Playable)
              Solitary Fighter (Now Playable)
              Star Wars Arcade (Now Somewhat Playable)
              Storm Blade (Bad graphics on levels 2-6 fixed)
              Strike Fighter (Now Playble)
              Super Bishi Bashi Championship
              Super Hang-On (Official Version) (Now Playable)
              Super Monaco GP (Now Playable) (Some GFX Niggles)
              Super Qix official version (Now Playable)
              Super World Court (English Language World Version)
              Teeter Torture (Now Playable)
              The New Zealand Story (New Rom Versions)
              Thunder Blade (Now Playable)
              Thunder Strike (Now Playable)
              Title Fight (USA Version)
              Top Blade V (Now Playable)
              Tough Turf (Now Playable )
              Turbo Outrun (Now Playable With Some GFX Issues)
              Turbo Outrun (Now Playable)
              UFO Senshi Yohko chan (Now Playable)
              Ultra-X Weapons (Bad graphics on all levels fixed)
              Undercover Cops Alpha Renewal Version (Now Playable)
              Vimana (Now With Proper Sound)
              Violence Fight (Now Playable)
              Viper Phase 1 (Now Playable)
              Virtua Bowling (Now Playable)
              Where's Wally (Now Playable)
              Wing Force (Now Playable)
              Wing War (Now Playable)
              Wonder Boy In Monsterland (Official Sega English Version Now Playable)
              ...
              

              Here are ALL the games added and correct on each release :

              Final release : https://jpst.it/13PT-
              MAMEoXtras v1.20.u3 Released : https://jpst.it/13Qbm
              MAMEoXtras v1.20.u2 : https://jpst.it/13QsD
              MAMEoXtras v1.19 : https://jpst.it/13Qw5
              MAMEoXtras v1.18 : https://jpst.it/13Qwq
              MameoXtras v1.17 : https://jpst.it/13QwN
              MAMEoXtras v1.16 : https://jpst.it/13QwZ
              MameoXtras v1.15 : https://jpst.it/13Qx8
              MameoXtras v1.14 : https://jpst.it/13Qx9
              MameoXtras v1.13 : https://jpst.it/13Qy4
              MameoXtras v1.12 : https://jpst.it/13Qyg
              ...
              http://www.emuxtras.net/forum/search.php?st=0&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&keywords=MAMEoXtras+Released&fid[]=181&sf=titleonly&start=10
              ...
              MameOxtras v1.1 : https://jpst.it/13QyC
              MAMEoXtras v1.0 : https://jpst.it/13QyX

              The 1.0 version with Darius screen fix etc ... was so fantastic, we don't have that on PI :(

              Life is game, just play it !

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              • maxbeanzM
                maxbeanz @darknior
                last edited by

                @darknior The only thing with lr-mame2010 is that all vertical games display at the wrong ratio (stretched) and the only way to correct it is from the Retroarch menu. I also like mame2010 because a lot of analogue games can be easily played with a d-pad, and a few games have joystick versions. Because mame2003 works well for most games no-one is going to bother to improve mame2010 (unless a Pi 4 is released maybe). FinalBurn doesn't care about accuracy so a few of the games play too fast (double dragon plays like it's 2x speed for example), and some games play slower than mame2003.

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                • darkniorD
                  darknior @maxbeanz
                  last edited by

                  @maxbeanz Thanks for your answer. If i understand fine, for you :

                  • At the moment on PI3 the best MAME to use is 2003 (0.78) !
                    Because it works well for most games :)
                  • FBA is not accuracy and we must use it only for some games that not working on MAME 2003.
                    I use it for Neogeo with Universal BIOS and it works very fine, what do you think about that ?
                  • MAME 2010: It show vertical games at wrong ratio but we can fix it, it is not a reason to like it ?
                    .................... It is best for games with analogue control to play with them DPad. Mame 2003 don't ? Have you a list of these games i'm interested. Like you speak about games with joystick ...

                  So bad no one want to update MAME 2010 to make works more games like on xBox, or update MAME 2003 drivers ... i know it is some work to do it, but it is not like creating a new emulator from scratch.
                  @gamez fan always write he don't know code, and only COPY PASTE drivers from other sources ... and when it is so hard IQ_132 help him :)

                  Like you write we can stand, and i stand for the PI4 lol
                  More powerfull for 3DO, N64, Saturn, Dreamcast, PSP ... and arcade games.
                  Maybe it will help to found some one to upgrade MAME 2010 but it is not sure :(

                  @markwkidd are my informations help you ?

                  @dankcushions You write me Mame 0.78 has an x86 dybarec for MIPS CPU used by some games ...
                  Nobody never code one for ARM on any MAME version ?

                  Life is game, just play it !

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                  • darkniorD
                    darknior
                    last edited by

                    @gamesfan is agree with me :) It can be really fantastic on PI to make same work on MAME than on xBox.

                    @gamesfan said :

                    Well they have a few MAME Emulators to choose from already from what i gather the older
                    MAME versions perform better on the PI while the newer cores not so much i guess the
                    best of both worlds kinda deal is to cherrypick some of the improvements and new game
                    support that we have in the MAMEoXtras Src and backport it to the PI MAME78 core.
                    .
                    There would be a fair amount of graft in this due to the code diffs between the versions
                    i guess in the end it all comes down to whether on not active PI dev's are interested in
                    doing it i suppose they might have been more keen was it not for the multiple versions of
                    MAME they have already.
                    .
                    The MAME84 core will actually support more games than MAME78 and that was even before
                    over the years we've updated the MAMEoXtras core to fix and add even more here is the
                    full breakdown of work done by myself and others maybe something might be of interest
                    here to those PI dev's who prefer the older MAME78 core.

                    Full list of updates :

                    EmuXtras Presents....
                    
                    A gamezfan and destronger co-production
                    
                    MAMEoXtras Final
                    
                    
                    MAMEoXtras contains coding by: Erik Abair, opcode, luckyMIC, superfro, XPort,
                    bendermike, Ebsy, HK$, IQ_132, gamezfan, destronger, cbagy, and BritneysPAIRS.
                    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
                    
                    http://www.emuxtras.net
                    
                    This is an update to MameDOX based on version 1.1 it contains new updated driver work
                    by IQ_132 gamezfan and BritneysPAIRS, plus brand spanking new skins by destronger
                    and cbagy, plus it features support for many Arcade games that are playable nowhere
                    else on the Xbox.
                    
                    Thanks go out to floydthebarber for creating and sharing out the MAMEoXtras
                    Best Of The Best Rompack and tattyfurby for creating all those Art and Sample packs.
                    
                    
                    Big Thanks To....
                    
                    MadMab
                    +T+
                    Destronger
                    Cbagy
                    Bigby
                    Retroplay
                    Chaos
                    IQ_132
                    hcf
                    Waal
                    XtecutorX73
                    
                    For help guidance and support 
                    Thx alot guys couldn't have done it without you
                    
                    
                    New Games Now playable Have Added Sound Support Or Speedhacks In This Release
                    
                    Osman (Now Playable)
                    Boogie Wings (Now Playable)
                    Double Dragon (Hacked to run fast)
                    Charlie Ninja (Now Playable)
                    Party Time : Gonta the Diver II (Now Playable)
                    Rohga Armor Force (Now Playable)
                    DJ Boy (Now Playable)
                    Cabal (Now Playable with 3 button for rolling)
                    Squash (Now Playable)
                    Thunder Hoop (Now Playable)
                    Task Force Harrier (Now Playable)
                    Air Attack (Now Playable)
                    Bioship (Now with Sound)
                    Macross 1 and 2 (Now with Sound)
                    Black Heart (Now with Sound)
                    Gunnail (Now with Sound)
                    Acrobat Mission (Now with Sound)
                    Vandyke (Now with Sound)
                    Koutetsu Yousai Strahl (Now with Sound)
                    Exciting Hour (Now Playable)
                    Mat Main (Now Playable)
                    Mania Challenge (Now Playable)
                    Avenging Spirits (Now Playable)
                    Joe & Mac Returns (Now Playable)
                    Chain Reaction (Now Playable)
                    Magical Drop (Now Playable)
                    Magical Drop Plus 1 (Now Playable)
                    Multi Champ (Now Playable)
                    Multi Champ Deluxe (Now Playable)
                    Head Panic (Now Playable)
                    Tang Tang (Now Playable)
                    SWAT Police (Now Playable)
                    Dream World (Now Playable)
                    Diet Go Go (Now Playable)
                    Night Slashers (Now Playable)
                    Night Slashers (Uncensored Versions) with blood and gore (Now Playable)
                    Fighters History (Now Playable)
                    Skull Fang (Now Playable)
                    World Cup Volley 95 (Now Playable)
                    Hoops 96 (Now Playable)
                    Dunk Dream 95 (Now Playable)
                    Avengers In Galactic Storm (Now Playable)
                    Escape Kids (Now Playable)
                    Bonks Adventure (Now Playable)
                    Explosive Breaker (Now Playable)
                    Blood Warrior (Now Playable with a little background glitches)
                    Shogun Warriors (Now Playable)
                    Fujiyama Buster (Now Playable)
                    B Rap Boys (Now Playable)
                    B Rap Boys Special (Now Playable)
                    Thunder Heroes (Now Playable)
                    Riot (Now Playable)
                    Twin Action (Now Playable)
                    Stagger I (Now Playable)
                    Red Hawk (Now Playable)
                    Guardian Storm (Now Playable)
                    Sen Jin (Now Playable)
                    Bubble 2000 (Now Playable)
                    Hot Bubble (Now Playable)
                    Pop's Pop's (Now Playable)
                    Mang-Chi (Now Playable)
                    Spectrum 2000 (Now Playable)
                    Fire Hawk (Now Playable)
                    Mighty Warriors
                    Ironclad (Now Playable)
                    Tetris the Absolute The Grand Master 2 (Now Playable)
                    Tetris the Absolute The Grand Master 2 Plus (Now Playable)
                    Double Dragon 3 (Japanese and Clones Now Playable)
                    Cosmic Alien (Now with Sound)
                    Bakuretsu Breaker (Now Playable)
                    US Mustang (Now Fixed)
                    Hacha Mecha Fighter (Now Playable)
                    Koutetsu Yousai Strahl (Now with Sound)
                    Street Fighter 1 (Hacked to run fast)
                    FixEight (Now Playable)
                    Neo Pong (Now Playable)
                    Gun Master (Now Playable)
                    Recalhorn (Now Playable)
                    Bang Busters (Now Playable)
                    Counter Run (Now Playable)
                    Donkey Kong 2 (Hack Added)
                    Donkey Kong Foundry (Hack Added)
                    Baryon (Now Playable)
                    Final Fight (Hack Added)
                    Virtua Fighter 1 (Playable)
                    Metal Slug 6 (Hack Added)
                    Golden Tee 3D golf (Now Playable)
                    Golden Tee 97 (Now Playable)
                    Golden Tee 98 (Now Playable)
                    Golden Tee 99 (Now Playable)
                    Golden Tee 2k (Now Playable)
                    Golden Tee Classic Golf (Now Playable)
                    Title Fight (Now Playable)
                    F1 Grand Prix Star 2 (Now Playable)
                    Twin Cobra 2 (Now Playable)
                    Hyper Street Fighter 2 (Now Playable)
                    Battle Shark JoyStick Version (Now Playable)
                    Hyper Crash (Now Playable)
                    Kabuki-Z (Now Playable)
                    Arm champs 2 (Now Playable)
                    Raiden Fighters 2 2000 (Now Playable)
                    Raiden Fighters Jet 2000 (Now Playable)
                    Action Hollywood (Now Playable)
                    Gauntlet 2  4 player version (Now Playable)
                    Mouse Shooter GoGo (Now Playable)
                    Power Instinct 2 USA Version (Now Playable)
                    Guerrilla War  Joystick Version (Now Playable)
                    Ikari Warriors  Joystick Version (Now Playable)
                    Super World Court World Version (Now Playable)
                    Power Instinct Legends (Now Playable)
                    Ikari Warriors 3 Joystick Version (Now Playable)
                    Crystal Castles Joystick Version (Now Playable)
                    Downtown Joystick Version (Now Playable)
                    Ghox Joystick Version (Now Playable)
                    Heavy Smash (Now Playable)
                    Super Bishi Bashi Championship (Now Playable)
                    Pocket Gal Deluxe (Now Playable)
                    Round Up 5 Super Delta Force (Now Playable)
                    Fighting Hawk (Fixed slowdown Issues)
                    Sand Scorpion (Now Playable)
                    Hard Times (Now Playable)
                    Excelsior (Now Playable)
                    Hot Mind (Now Playable)
                    Racing Beat (Now Playable)
                    Asura Buster (Now Playable)
                    Double Wings (Now Playable)
                    Racing Beat (Now Playable)
                    Fire Barrel (Now Playable)
                    Rock'N Tread (Now With sound)
                    Rock'N Tread 2(Now Playable)
                    Rock'N 3 (Now Playable)
                    Rock'N 4 (Now Playable)
                    Air Assault (Now Playable)
                    Raiden Fighters (Now Playable)
                    Raiden Fighters 2 (Now Playable)
                    Raiden Fighters Jet (Now Playable)
                    Raiden Fighters 1, 2, Jet, Single Board Versions (Now Playable)
                    Viper Phase 1 (Now Playable)
                    Rapid Hero (Now Has Sound)
                    Pop Bingo (Now Playable)
                    Virtua Bowling (Now Playable)
                    Cool Pool (Now Playable)
                    9 Ball Shoot Out (Now Playable)
                    Battle Balls (Now Playable)
                    Teeter Torture (Now Playable)
                    Guts N Glory (Now Playable)
                    Lord Of Gun (Now Playable No Sound)
                    UFO Senshi Yohko chan (Now Playable)
                    Gals Panic S3 (Now Playable)
                    International Team Laser (Now Playable)
                    Road Riot 4WD (Fixed Controls Game Now Playable)
                    billiard Academy Real Break Euro Version (Now Playable)
                    Fixed Bad Controls in Operation wolf 3 
                    Thunder Strike (Now Playable)
                    Rolling Crush (Now Playable)
                    Lethal Enforcers (Now Playable)
                    Lethal Enforcers 2 (Now Playable)
                    9 Ball Shootout Championship Edition (Now Playable)
                    Double Dragon (Fixed End Of Game Crash)
                    Cute Fighters (Now Playable)
                    Air Rescue (Now Playable)
                    Dragon Ball-Z VRVS (Now Playable)
                    Mobil Suit Gundam Final shooting (Now Playable)
                    Eagle Shot Golf (Now Playable)
                    Top Blade V (Now Playable)
                    Lucky N Wild (Now Playable)
                    Daikaiju no Gyakushu (Now Playable)
                    Wonder Boy In Monsterland (Offical Sega English Version Now Playable)
                    Nebulas Ray (Now Has Sound)
                    Outfoxies (Now Has Sound)
                    Point Blank (Now Has Sound)
                    Great Sluggers 94 (Now Has Sound)
                    Mach Breakers Numen Althletics 2 (Now Has Sound)
                    Super World Stadium 95,96,97 (Now all Have sound)
                    J-League Soccer V-Shoot (Now Has Sound)
                    Born To Fight (Now Playable)
                    Gaia The Last Choice Of Earth (Now Playable)
                    Shrike Avenger (Now Playable)
                    Bio-Hazard Battle (Now Playable)
                    Columns 3 (Now Playable)
                    Golden Axe 2 (Now Playable)
                    Shinobi III (Now Playable)
                    Sonic The Hedgehog 2 (Now Playble)
                    Streets Of Rage II (Now Playable)
                    Tecmo World Cup (Now Playble)
                    Rumba Lumber (Now Playable)
                    D-Day (Now Playable)
                    Parallel Turn (Now Playable)
                    Hot Chase (Now Playable)
                    Doki Doki Penguin Land (Now Playable)
                    Arch Rivals 8-Way Joystick Version (Now Playable)
                    Puyo Puyo official World Version (Now Playable)
                    Mirax (Now Playable) (No Sound)
                    Donkey Kong Pauline Edition (Now Playable)
                    Chase Bombers (Now Playable)
                    Denjin Makai (Now Playable)
                    Glass (Now Playable)
                    Wing Force (Now Playable)
                    Namco Classic Collection Vol 2 (Now Playable)
                    Donkey Kong Rainbow Edition (Now Playable)
                    Snow Board Championship (Now Playable)
                    World Cup Volley 95 Extra Edition (Now Playable)
                    Professor Pac-Man (Now Playable)
                    Crack Down (Now Playable)
                    Gain Ground (Now Playable)
                    Rough Racer (Now Playable)
                    Sonic Boom (Now Playable)
                    Super Masters Golf (Now Playable)
                    BackFire (Now Playable)
                    1943-The Battle Of Midway Mark II (Now Playable)
                    Crossed Swords 2 (Now Playable)
                    Last Hope (Now Playable)
                    The Lost Castle In DarkMist (Now Playable)
                    Mustache Boy (Now Has Sound)
                    Digger Man (Now Playable)
                    Raiders (Now Playable)
                    Touch N Go (Now Playable)
                    Donkey Kong Remix (Now Playable)
                    Goal92 (Now Playable Again)
                    96 Flag Rally (Now Playable)
                    Slap Fight offical Version (Now Playable)
                    Alcon (Now Playable)
                    Oriental Legend Special (Now Playable)
                    Puzzle Star (Now Playable)
                    Real And Fake / Photo Y2K (Now Playable)
                    Sexy parodius (English Version) (Now Playable)
                    Alien Storm (Offical Versions) (Now Playable)
                    Bloxeed (Now Playable)
                    Bullet (Now Playable)
                    Clutch Hitter (Now Playable)
                    Cotton (Now Playable)
                    DD Crew (Now Playable)
                    Desert Breaker (Now Playable)
                    Dynamite Dux (Official Version (Now Playable)
                    EWAT Cyber Police Official Version (Now Playable)
                    Fantasy Zone II (Now Playable)
                    Fantasy Zone Time Attack (Now Playable)
                    Lazer Ghost (Now Playable)
                    Michael Jackson's Moonwalker (Official Version) (Now Playable)
                    Super Qix (Official Version) (Now Playable)
                    Turbo Outrun (Now Playable)
                    Tough Turf (Now playable)
                    Where's Wally (Now Playable)
                    Action Fighter (Now Playable)
                    Super Hang-On (Official Version) (Now Playable)
                    Limited Edition Hang-On (Now Playable)
                    Thunder Blade (Now Playable)
                    A.B. Cop (Now Playable)
                    Racing Hero (Now Playable)
                    Super Monaco GP (Now Playable) (Some GFX Niggles)
                    Galaxy Force 2 (Now Playable)
                    G-LOC Air Battle (Now Playable)
                    Power Drift (Now Playable)
                    Rail Chase (Now Playable)
                    Strike Fighter (Now Playble)
                    Line Of Fire (Now Playable)
                    Dunk Shot (Now Playable)
                    MVP (Now Playable)
                    Passing Shot (Official Version) (Now Playable)
                    Undercover Cops Alpha Renewal Version (Now Playable)
                    Wing War (Now Playable)
                    Star Wars Arcade (Now Somewhat Playable)
                    Joshi Volleyball (Now Playable)
                    Hangzo (Now Playable)
                    Schmeiser Robo (Now Playable)
                    Slipstream (Now Playable)
                    Dark Edge (Now Playable)
                    
                    
                    Graphic Fixes For.....
                    Raiden Fighters 
                    Raiden Fighters 2
                    Raiden Fighters Jet
                    Viper Phase 1
                    Battle Balls
                    Raiden Fighters Jet 2000
                    Raiden Fighters 2 2000
                    Golden Axe II
                    Arabian Fight
                    Spiderman
                    Hyper Crash
                    Sand Scorpion
                    Dyna Gears
                    Storm Blade 
                    Ultra X Weapons 
                    B-Rap Boys
                    PlayChoice 10 Metroid
                    playchoice 10 Mario Golf
                    Playchoice 10 Baseball Stars
                    Fire Barrel/Air Assault
                    Goal92
                    Outrun
                    Turbo Outrun
                    Super Hang-on
                    Limited Edition Hang-On
                    Gunforce II
                    Ghosts N Goblins
                    Great Swordsman
                    
                    Sound or sample support added for......
                    
                    Vanguard
                    Sasuke vs. Commander
                    Satan of Saturn
                    Zarzon
                    Fantasy
                    Pioneer Balloon
                    Nibbler
                    Ghox
                    Teki Paki
                    Rock'N Tread Games
                    Raiden Fighters games
                    Fire Barrel/Air Assault
                    Double Wings
                    Rapid Hero
                    Namco Classic Collection Vol 1
                    Namco Classic Collection Vol 2
                    Gorf 
                    Wizard Of Wor
                    Robby Roto
                    Space Zap
                    Professor Pac-Man
                    Sea Wolf 2
                    Extra Bases
                    Chequered Flag
                    Mustache Boy
                    The Lost Castle In Dark Mist
                    Rohga Armor Force
                    Goal92
                    Riding Fight
                    Ring Rage
                    
                    
                    
                    New Correct Samples for......
                    
                    Donkey Kong
                    Donkey Kong 2
                    Donkey Kong Pauline Edition
                    Donkey Kong Rainbow Edition
                    Donkey Kong Foundry
                    Donkey kong Jr
                    Spiders (Now Has Sample Sound)
                    Gorf
                    Wizard Of Wor
                    
                    
                    Playable with some issues
                    Virtua Racing (Now Playable ) some track Logic Problems 
                    Flying Tiger (now Playable) Wrong Colours
                    Vamp 1/2 (Now Playable) Slow on stock xboxes maybe upgraded boxes will play it better??
                    Rabbit (Now Playable)  Slow on stock xboxes maybe upgraded boxes will play it better??
                    
                    Reinstated Some Drivers Which Had Support Removed like.....
                    Nintendo Playchoice
                    Nintendo VS
                    
                    Fixed The following Multi Screen Games To Load Full Screen TV Aspect
                    Darius
                    Darius 2
                    Lode Runner The Dig Fight
                    Tecmo Bowl
                    The Ninja Warriors
                    Warrior Blade Rastan Saga 3
                    Backfire
                    
                    Full VMM Testing Done 
                    All games should now load without having to adjust the VMM settings
                    
                    
                    Games with Analog control Fixes Button Remappings etc
                    88 Games
                    720 
                    American Horseshoes
                    APB
                    Arkanoid
                    Arkanoid Return Of Doh
                    Bad Lands
                    Bigrun 11th Rally
                    Blasteroids
                    Camel Try
                    Centipede
                    Championship Sprint
                    Chase HQ
                    Chequered Flag
                    Continental Circus
                    Crystal Castles
                    Danny sullivans Indycar Heat
                    Demolition Derby
                    Discs Of Tron
                    Double Axle
                    Enduro Racer
                    Escape Planet Of The Robot Monsters
                    Gotcha Mini Game Festival
                    Grand Prix Star 
                    F1 Exhaust Note
                    F1 GP star 2
                    Food Fight
                    Hot Chase
                    Hydra (Fixed Pedal to start Game)
                    Hyper Sports
                    Hyper Olympics
                    Jurassic Park
                    Konami GT
                    Marble Madness
                    Milliped
                    Missle Command
                    Numan Athletics
                    Night Striker
                    Outrun
                    Outrunners
                    Pole Position
                    Pole Position 2
                    Prebillion 
                    Return Of The Jedi
                    Reactor
                    Road Blasters
                    Road Riots Revenge
                    Road Runner
                    Sinister
                    Space Harrier
                    Special Criminal Investigation
                    Steel Gunner 
                    Steel Gunner 2
                    Super Sprint
                    Tempest
                    The irritating Maze
                    Thunder Ceptor
                    Top Speed
                    Track N Field
                    Wec-Le-Mans 
                    
                    Mapped some Gun Games to use the D-Pad makes controling the crosshare with the gamepad easier
                    Alien 3 The Gun
                    Bang
                    Battle Shark
                    Beast Busters
                    Chiller
                    Dragon Gun
                    Egg Venture Deluxe
                    Lethal Justice
                    Lethal Enforcers
                    Lethal Enforcers 2
                    Mechanised Attack
                    One Shot One Kill
                    Operation Wolf
                    Operation Thunderbolt
                    Operation wolf 3
                    Police Trainer
                    Point Blank
                    Space Gun
                    Steel Gunner
                    Steel Gunner 2
                    Tickee Tickets
                    Zero Point
                    Zero Point 2
                    Zombie Raid
                    
                    There Was A screen Tearing Issue which is fixed in this version
                    
                    Turned On Blood/Violence in these games
                    Dungeon Magic
                    Metal Slug Games
                    Night slashers Overseas Rev
                    Shock Troopers
                    Dragoon Might
                    Violence Fight
                    Lethal Enforcers 2
                    
                    Switched Bonks Adventure to English Language
                    Fixed The End Of Level Crash In Rampage World Tour
                    
                    New Dat File Included
                    
                    Updated Help File
                    For General Usage Tips Press Start And Choose Help 
                    
                    Q How do i install this emulator
                    
                    A See below
                    First check your xbox E:\Tdata\4d414d46 folder to make sure there is no previous save file
                    folder inside it If there is it will be called system just remove it before booting MAME0XTRAS
                    for the 1st time To install on your Xbox HDD just simply pick your preferred emulator folder
                    and FTP it across
                    
                    Q Why When i try to start a game the Emulator loads a different one and Then Errors out
                    A You didn't remove your previous save file before booting up this new version
                    
                    Q How do i skip warnings before the games load
                    A In the main menu make sure all skip warning settings are enabled
                    
                    Q What games does this play
                    A Mame arcade games only
                    
                    Q Does it play console games
                    A Dont be a daftie
                    
                    Q Does it play Final Burn Legends Arcade Games
                    A Nope use FBL v1.20
                    
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                    • dankcushionsD
                      dankcushions Global Moderator @darknior
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                      mame2010 also doesn't support more than 2 players. i would update it but there's a lot to do, and for me i think mame2003 is better for pi as more games are full speed. at some point, just run latest mame on a better CPU if you want most games supported.

                      @darknior said in MAME development: lr-mame2003 Updates:

                      @dankcushions You write me Mame 0.78 has an x86 dybarec for MIPS CPU used by some games ...
                      Nobody never code one for ARM on any MAME version ?

                      as far as i know they have only ever implemented dynarecs for x86 platforms. maybe one from an n64 emulator could be backported, but i wouldn't be able to do that.

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                        rtissera
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                        I could have a look at lr-mame2010 issues again.
                        I had a look like a year ago to get it working on my XU4 and indeed the libretro port of it is very primitive compared to MAME 2003.

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                        • darkniorD
                          darknior @dankcushions
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                          @dankcushions said in MAME development: lr-mame2003 Updates:

                          as far as i know they have only ever implemented dynarecs for x86 platforms. maybe one from an n64 emulator could be backported, but i wouldn't be able to do that.

                          Thanks, yes it's what i think, take it from an other emulator and include in MAME. But i know it is many many work to do ... N64 is a good choice :)

                          @dankcushions said in MAME development: lr-mame2003 Updates:

                          mame2010 also doesn't support more than 2 players

                          WOAW ... Only 2 players, no cheat and no input conf by game ... i really don't like this emu lol

                          To update MAME 2003 it is not a real coder work. Like write @gamesfan he copy and past drivers. And with the time he become stronger to do it and update MAME more and more. It's why i wish and i think it is possible to found some one to do it :) :p
                          For the hard work, at the moment we also have IQ_132 that help a lot ...

                          If nobody do it, we will never have all the good Arcade games on our PI.
                          The PI 4, 5, 6 will be stronger and faster, but the ARM problem and drivers problems will be always here :(

                          Life is game, just play it !

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                          • dankcushionsD
                            dankcushions Global Moderator @darknior
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                            @darknior said in MAME development: lr-mame2003 Updates:

                            To update MAME 2003 it is not a real coder work. Like write @gamesfan he copy and past drivers. And with the time he become stronger to do it and update MAME more and more. It's why i wish and i think it is possible to found some one to do it :) :p

                            but not you? hmm.

                            it is not so simple. mame had a big refactor soon after 0.78 (i think before 0.84) which changed a lot of the memory stuff and the driver structure. it's not so easy to backport new drivers to this old version.

                            besides, Iq_132 is working on fba now: http://neosource.1emulation.com/forums/index.php?topic=980.0
                            fba works great on the pi3, so that's where your best hope of getting mame drivers backported. i am not interested in changing the core emulation of mame 0.78 - i have enough to do with making sure the libretro version works well (controls, etc)

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                            • caver01C
                              caver01 @darknior
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                              @darknior said in MAME development: lr-mame2003 Updates:

                              If nobody do it, we will never have all the good Arcade games on our PI.

                              I disagree. I think we have a great combination of working arcade emulators on the Pi for all of the "good Arcade games", and with emulator overlap, we actually choices for many of the classics. This lets us get away with smaller boards like the Zero.

                              Imagine if the recent effort poured into lr-mame2003 was misdirected to mame4all. I think we have a good balance of performance and romset coverage with 2003 and it was the right place to focus on features and enhancements.

                              Let's not forget AdvanceMAME which takes up some slack too, especially with vector games (which also work in 2003, they just look better in AdvMAME). You also get a bump in the romset to .106.

                              My 4-player cocktail style cabinet built as a custom "roadcase"

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                              • RiverstormR
                                Riverstorm
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                                @darknior said in MAME development: lr-mame2003 Updates:

                                If nobody do it, we will never have all the good Arcade games on our PI.

                                He's just plugging the emulator he uses frequently and looking toward the future which is ok or maybe specific games he would like to see working like Gal's Panic (games_fan said they have been playable in FBA for a while now...I saw that post). ;)

                                I wouldn't say intentions are bad by any means and the emulation scene isn't quite that dire either. You might think several of these old platforms would be on life-support but the force of nostalgia is strong. Most are quite healthy and prospering.

                                I saw your other post in another forum about either poor explanation or lack of motivation to show interest to merge the two projects. People due to time restraints, family, resources, etc. do what they can when they can. Someone seems to tweak them eventually for the most popular games and a few others if they are feeling it.

                                It basically looks like MAME port to the XBOX based on 0.84 with a few extra games? That's a tough sell when mame2003 is sitting so close. Each successive version does add more games but between 0.78 and 0.84 are they main stream quality games of significance or just additional clones and niche games.

                                My other thought is what is the goal? It seems like the target demographic is entirely different. Basically XBOX (x86) vs. Pi (ARM). I think the majority of users here are Pi based but not all. I don't think it's a lack of motivation at all as stated on the other forum.

                                I do think you make a good point here.

                                To update MAME 2003 it is not a real coder work. Like write @gamesfan he copy and past drivers. And with the time he become stronger to do it and update MAME more and more.

                                The groups that program these drivers from scratch I would imagine are a pretty small circle and the rest are cutting, pasting or tweaking from that code. Kind of like a hacker vs. a script kiddie or skiddie. If it was easy then this conversation wouldn't even exist. Talking and understanding "theory" vs. actual implementation are two different things entirely!

                                Imagine if the recent effort poured into lr-mame2003 was misdirected to mame4all.

                                I wouldn't call it a total misdirect or even a TKO...yet...sometimes active development dictates direction. I do prefer the shaders and analog stick support but prefer mame4all's input configuration. I can't think of any "deal breaker" mainstream games that are supported in 0.78 vs. 0.37b5 but if I remember I think I had to move a few significant games to AdvMAME that 0.78 broke when phasing out mame4all-pi. All the golden age era games where implemented early in the MAME development cycle in addition.

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                                • darkniorD
                                  darknior @dankcushions
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                                  @dankcushions said in MAME development: lr-mame2003 Updates:

                                  but not you? hmm.

                                  Yes i think if one day i have free time, i will try ... i think i can do it. I will not code new drivers like write @Riverstorm ... i will use them and adapt them. But for the moment i'm already in a project with friends, tons of games to try, many Xtra to release (Covers, videos, title) a new skin ... i can't do all my self lol
                                  And i don't speak of my wife and my children :p
                                  I know for Iq_132, but he always help coders on xBox on MAME & FBA, it is a cool guy if we have questions.

                                  @caver01 I don't try AdvanceMAME ... is it really better for Vector games ? Or others ?
                                  I must try some good vector games and search if we can use the background images on MAME.

                                  @Riverstorm you are real, all the quality games where add on MAME v0.78 & 0.84. No many more after that ... but some ... AND some fix, and there are really interesting to make some games working better.
                                  @gamesfan add many fix to make games playable.

                                  Gal's Panic S & S2 don't work on the PI version of FBA ... so strange ... on x86 they works fine.
                                  But we made new tests, with the good ROMSET and the last MAME 2003 compiled from source and now they are working fine :)
                                  We will try on the FULL SET one by one !

                                  @riverstorm said in MAME development: lr-mame2003 Updates:

                                  I saw your other post in another forum about either poor explanation or lack of motivation to show interest to merge the two projects. People due to time restraints, family, resources, etc. do what they can when they can. Someone seems to tweak them eventually for the most popular games and a few others if they are feeling it.

                                  I'm ok with you, same problem for me. It's why search some coders to help. And only to add great games, no crappy clones. It's what @gamesfan do. Or fixing bugs, speed and controls.

                                  I don't know AdvMAME or the set to use with it. It is not a LR emulator with all the cool LR options ... but if you write me it works fine, i can try it for some games.

                                  Life is game, just play it !

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                                    arcadez2003 @darknior
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                                    @darknior said in MAME development: lr-mame2003 Updates:

                                    @gamesfan is agree with me :) It can be really fantastic on PI to make same work on MAME than on xBox.

                                    Well im not sure that i agree with ya buddy not knowing the in's and out's of MAME Emulation on the PI, from reading the posts it's maybe time you let up on this :)

                                    BTW your after some Kaneko Supernova games Gals Panic Series right..?? did you know that in currant FBA dink has added some speedhacks to the
                                    driver which are hooked to the SH-2 CPU core this should give the games a significant performance boost.

                                    Im not sure what version of FBA the currant PI port is based from but check the dip switch options where the speedhacks can be enabled or better yet ask
                                    one of the FBA PI dev's to enable them by default in the driver.

                                    Edit seems like i jumped the gun i assumed wrongly you were having trouble around the performance of the Supernova games i see now from your last post these
                                    games actually dont work in PI FBA for some reason on ARM based hardware i know the RA boys have similar problems with their FBA port.

                                    Regards!!

                                    Arcade Addict

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                                    • RiverstormR
                                      Riverstorm @darknior
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                                      @darknior said in MAME development: lr-mame2003 Updates:

                                      I don't know AdvMAME or the set to use with it.

                                      It uses MAME 0.106. Follow this guide for tweaking AdvMAME to vector game nirvana! Vector games look better on AdvMAME than any other emulator so far due to vector specific features exclusive to AdvMAME and @caver01 has written an excellent guide to achieve those results. Look at the link to see a few screenshots! :)

                                      Im not sure what version of FBA the currant PI port is based from

                                      • lr-fbalpha - v0.2.97.42
                                      • lr-fbalpha2012 - v0.2.97.30
                                      • PiFBA - v0.2.96.71

                                      Here's a link to the FBA Pi documentation. The lr- prefixed to the name signifies it's a Libretro core that uses Retroarch as a front-end in contrast to PiFBA which is standalone. They all use Emulationstation as the graphical user interface & RetroPie to further unify the settings and added functionality under one GUI.

                                      The number of emulators and ports supported is incredible. Even the standalone emulators many times can be tweaked to mimic Retroarch inputs so as to function the same such as adding credits and exiting emulators. This helps make GUI interface integration seamless. The links should help explain.

                                      Main RetroPie documentation page. The "Arcade" link on the left side is where you'll locate the MAME documentation for the different emulators and the corresponding ROM set versions used.

                                      Also there's specific sections as they pertain to RetroPie in regards to Retroarch & Emulationstation. The documentation for RetroPie is extremely useful if you want to learn about it.

                                      Yes i think if one day i have free time, i will try ... i think i can do it.

                                      That would be wonderful! ;)

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                                      • darkniorD
                                        darknior @Riverstorm
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                                        @riverstorm Thanks very much for all your informations :)
                                        I know most of them but not all, it's cool :)

                                        Life is game, just play it !

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                                          ward614
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                                          I don't know if this is the appropriate place to post a request for a software change, but here I go.

                                          I would like to request that changes be made to how game pad input is read for games like Pac-man and Donkey Kong which traditionally used 4-way joysticks.

                                          Right now using any controller other than a specific 4-way joystick makes it easy to miss turns as diagonal inputs are treated as blank. I think it would be great if these games could instead take the most recently pressed cardinal direction as the way to move. This would greatly improve performance of a number of widely popular classic games.

                                          I don't know if you want to take this up or not, but here it is regardless.

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                                            caver01 @ward614
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                                            @ward614 Nobody would disagree with your logic from a playability standpoint, but think about this carefully. The emulator is software attempting to perfectly mimic the original game hardware. Nothing in the original game hardware is aware of modern d-pads, or all of the options we future users might try to use for controllers.

                                            To put it another way, if you are using real arcade hardware to control the emulator, the answer to this problem is easy--place a restrictor plate around your joystick so only the cardinal directions are available. In essence, do exactly what was done on the original arcade cabinet.

                                            Now, I realize, this is the smart-ass answer, as it does not address the fact that most of us want more universal playability--we want to play PacMan one minute, and then Street Fighter the next--on the same joystick.

                                            Simply said, it's not the job of an accurate emulator to accommodate the wrong hardware. Having said that, there are potential ways around this. One has to do with drivers. If you use a gamepad, you can apparently configure the xbox driver to work like a 4-way joystick. I understand this works surprisingly well, and it may be exactly what you are asking for. I cannot use it because I use a keyboard interface which I guess is a problem with this driver. However, that layer is better suited to address this.

                                            I wish there was a better answer than this, but I know we all share your pain in this regard.

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