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    • mediamogulM
      mediamogul Global Moderator @juice
      last edited by mediamogul

      @juice

      The ability for lr-snes9x2010 to identify the game as needing a speed hack was introduced recently, so updating it from source in the RetroPie Setup might be enough. If it still gives you trouble, try dropping your render resolution to 800x600 from the runcommand menu and that should do the trick. Currently, I'm running lr-snes9x2005 at 800x600 and I haven't noticed any slowdown.

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        juice
        last edited by

        thanks mate i check it out

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          juice
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          800x600 @ ? which hz clock freq mate

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          • mediamogulM
            mediamogul Global Moderator @juice
            last edited by

            @juice

            It depends on the display, but mine's at 60hz.

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              juice
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              so i got a 1080p display running at 60 hz , can u give me a step by step, before game run hit a to getup run command . then go to ?, sorry a little bit confused. thanks

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                juice
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                and do all your cut sequences run perfect thanks

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                • mediamogulM
                  mediamogul Global Moderator @juice
                  last edited by

                  @juice

                  then go to ?

                  There should be a listing that says something in the neighborhood of 'Video Render Mode'. From there you would set it to 800x600 at whatever hz is appropriate (if you're in a PAL region you might try 50) and from there you can back out to the first menu and lauch game should be at the bottom. I've kept the frame rate monitor in ReroArch up while playing and I never noticed it dipping below 60fps, even during the cut scenes.

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                  • lostlessL
                    lostless
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                    Update snes9x2010 from source. there has been an update to it that adds superfx speed hack to star fox 2. The retropie binaries have not been updated.

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                    • mediamogulM
                      mediamogul Global Moderator @lostless
                      last edited by

                      @lostless

                      There's been some reports that claim it's not quite enough for the Pi3, which might still make the resolution drop necessary. I haven't tried the new build out myself, so I can't confirm one way or another.

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                      • lostlessL
                        lostless @mediamogul
                        last edited by

                        @mediamogul I have tried the new build. You do get the occasional hiccup as you do with other superfx games on the pi, but not often and runs pretty much full speed.

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                        • mediamogulM
                          mediamogul Global Moderator @lostless
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                          @lostless

                          That's good to know. I've got all the SuperFX games running at a steady 60fps on mine with lr-snes9x2005 at the lower res. From the sound of it, those little hiccups might be ironed out the same way with 2010 now. I'll have to give it shot. 2005 has some potential timing issues that I'd like to leave behind if I could.

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                            juice
                            last edited by juice

                            thanks for your help mate, i updated everything from up source,
                            emulator lr-snes9x2005
                            video mode dmt-9 800x600 @60hz 4.3, clock 40mhz progressive
                            rom star fox 2 usa
                            retro-arch render (1920x1080) and try 800x600
                            still getting scratchy sound on Nintendo logo and cut scenes . when i start the star destroyer cut scene (scratchy losing frames) and when playing inside when transformed
                            no shaders or overlay
                            thanks anyway for your help

                            also star fox music slowing down and scratch when lot on screen

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                            • lostlessL
                              lostless @juice
                              last edited by

                              @juice problem with snes9x2005 is that it runs Starfox 1 and 2 too fast.

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                                juice
                                last edited by

                                just updating from source

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                                  juice
                                  last edited by juice

                                  it was not to fast on mine just seemed to be dropping frames looks normal speed to how i remember it when i had cart , but was over 20 year ago. but thanks for all the info. i getting tired it 5am uk here so brain bit mashed lol

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                                  • lostlessL
                                    lostless @juice
                                    last edited by

                                    @juice star fox 2 is not that noticeable unless you compare it to it running on real hardware or snes classic. Star fox 1 on the other hand just plainly runs too fast, unless theres been a fix.

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                                      juice
                                      last edited by juice

                                      i did update from binaries last time so that could be it, still updating from source . do all my resolutions setting look right tho, just to confirm

                                      video mode dmt-9 800x600 @60hz 4.3, clock 40mhz progressive
                                      rom star fox 2 usa
                                      retro-arch render (1920x1080) and try 800x600

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                                        juice
                                        last edited by juice

                                        so i when to manage packages
                                        manage main packages
                                        update from source just to confirm i am right

                                        still no good, 56 fs on title screen, 37-40 fps on intro with dragon
                                        using lr-snes9x 2010
                                        no shaders or overlay

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                                          juice
                                          last edited by juice

                                          just changed over to another pi and getting
                                          using lr-snes9x 2010
                                          with crt pi shader no overlay
                                          60fps title screen
                                          52fps intro after start button
                                          54fps ship launching
                                          58-60fps game play

                                          using lr-snes9x 2005
                                          with crt pi shader no overlay
                                          60fps title screen
                                          52fps intro after start button
                                          60fps ship launching
                                          60fps game play
                                          thanks for all your help guys much appreciated

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                                          • mediamogulM
                                            mediamogul Global Moderator @lostless
                                            last edited by mediamogul

                                            @juice, @lostless

                                            I just did a minor bit of research and it appears as though the timing issues are isolated to the original 'Star Fox' and lr-snes9x2005. This has to do with the fact that 'Star Fox' based it's timing completely off the clock setting of the SuperFX chip and lr-snes9x2005 is only emulating the clock speed of a SuperFX chip 2. A fix was put in place for lr-snes9x2010 and all other games are believed to use a more reliable timing scheme and remain unaffected no matter what you're using. I tested 'Star Fox' on 2010 to confirm and compared it to 2005 and the difference is night and day.

                                            @juice It looks like you're making progress and are right at the edge of a steady 60fps, you might want to try the same settings, only with lr-snes9x2005 and see if it tips the scales.

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