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    • lostlessL
      lostless
      last edited by

      Update snes9x2010 from source. there has been an update to it that adds superfx speed hack to star fox 2. The retropie binaries have not been updated.

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      • mediamogulM
        mediamogul Global Moderator @lostless
        last edited by

        @lostless

        There's been some reports that claim it's not quite enough for the Pi3, which might still make the resolution drop necessary. I haven't tried the new build out myself, so I can't confirm one way or another.

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        • lostlessL
          lostless @mediamogul
          last edited by

          @mediamogul I have tried the new build. You do get the occasional hiccup as you do with other superfx games on the pi, but not often and runs pretty much full speed.

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          • mediamogulM
            mediamogul Global Moderator @lostless
            last edited by

            @lostless

            That's good to know. I've got all the SuperFX games running at a steady 60fps on mine with lr-snes9x2005 at the lower res. From the sound of it, those little hiccups might be ironed out the same way with 2010 now. I'll have to give it shot. 2005 has some potential timing issues that I'd like to leave behind if I could.

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            • J
              juice
              last edited by juice

              thanks for your help mate, i updated everything from up source,
              emulator lr-snes9x2005
              video mode dmt-9 800x600 @60hz 4.3, clock 40mhz progressive
              rom star fox 2 usa
              retro-arch render (1920x1080) and try 800x600
              still getting scratchy sound on Nintendo logo and cut scenes . when i start the star destroyer cut scene (scratchy losing frames) and when playing inside when transformed
              no shaders or overlay
              thanks anyway for your help

              also star fox music slowing down and scratch when lot on screen

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              • lostlessL
                lostless @juice
                last edited by

                @juice problem with snes9x2005 is that it runs Starfox 1 and 2 too fast.

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                • J
                  juice
                  last edited by

                  just updating from source

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                  • J
                    juice
                    last edited by juice

                    it was not to fast on mine just seemed to be dropping frames looks normal speed to how i remember it when i had cart , but was over 20 year ago. but thanks for all the info. i getting tired it 5am uk here so brain bit mashed lol

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                    • lostlessL
                      lostless @juice
                      last edited by

                      @juice star fox 2 is not that noticeable unless you compare it to it running on real hardware or snes classic. Star fox 1 on the other hand just plainly runs too fast, unless theres been a fix.

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                      • J
                        juice
                        last edited by juice

                        i did update from binaries last time so that could be it, still updating from source . do all my resolutions setting look right tho, just to confirm

                        video mode dmt-9 800x600 @60hz 4.3, clock 40mhz progressive
                        rom star fox 2 usa
                        retro-arch render (1920x1080) and try 800x600

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                        • J
                          juice
                          last edited by juice

                          so i when to manage packages
                          manage main packages
                          update from source just to confirm i am right

                          still no good, 56 fs on title screen, 37-40 fps on intro with dragon
                          using lr-snes9x 2010
                          no shaders or overlay

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                          • J
                            juice
                            last edited by juice

                            just changed over to another pi and getting
                            using lr-snes9x 2010
                            with crt pi shader no overlay
                            60fps title screen
                            52fps intro after start button
                            54fps ship launching
                            58-60fps game play

                            using lr-snes9x 2005
                            with crt pi shader no overlay
                            60fps title screen
                            52fps intro after start button
                            60fps ship launching
                            60fps game play
                            thanks for all your help guys much appreciated

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                            • mediamogulM
                              mediamogul Global Moderator @lostless
                              last edited by mediamogul

                              @juice, @lostless

                              I just did a minor bit of research and it appears as though the timing issues are isolated to the original 'Star Fox' and lr-snes9x2005. This has to do with the fact that 'Star Fox' based it's timing completely off the clock setting of the SuperFX chip and lr-snes9x2005 is only emulating the clock speed of a SuperFX chip 2. A fix was put in place for lr-snes9x2010 and all other games are believed to use a more reliable timing scheme and remain unaffected no matter what you're using. I tested 'Star Fox' on 2010 to confirm and compared it to 2005 and the difference is night and day.

                              @juice It looks like you're making progress and are right at the edge of a steady 60fps, you might want to try the same settings, only with lr-snes9x2005 and see if it tips the scales.

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                              • J
                                juice
                                last edited by

                                i think i cracked it now. could you tell me what setting you have set in run command just to put it to bed .thanks mate for all your help

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                                • mediamogulM
                                  mediamogul Global Moderator @juice
                                  last edited by

                                  @juice

                                  could you tell me what setting you have set in run command

                                  Well, they're a bit different today. When I last looked at all this, I got the best, most consistent speeds with lr-snes9x2005 at an 800x600 resolution, but after hearing from @lostless, I decided to have another look this morning and I'm not getting any speed dips with 2010 on any of the SuperFX chip games after building from the most recent source, even at 1080p. So, in answer to your question, I'm running 'Star Fox 2' with the latest lr-snes9x2010 source build without changing anything from the runcommand menu and it seems to be doing just as well as my previous setup.

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                                  • J
                                    juice
                                    last edited by

                                    i look into that, and tweek mine a bit. yet again thanks for your help

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