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    • cosmo0C
      cosmo0
      last edited by

      Hi !

      I have spent a great deal of time looking up plug-and-play controllers for the pi.
      As you have sumrised, there just isn't any pad that cover everything. If you have 6 face buttons, you probably won't have an analogue stick, for instance. Unless it's a N64 controller, and then everything but N64 games become unplayable.

      TL;DR: check out :

      • Mad Catz Fightpad Pro
      • 8bitdo wireless usb adapter
      • Gamesir G5

      In no particular order, here are all the pad manufacturers I know of, that should be compatible with the Raspberry Pi.

      Mad Catz
      With their recent sell-out, they shifted their focus away from game pads and into mice and keyboards. You can still find their pads and arcade sticks, though.
      The Fightpad Pro has a d-pad, one analogue stick, 6 face buttons and 4 triggers, although 2 of the face buttons are hard-wired to 2 triggers.
      The rest is your regular mix of Playstation- and Xbox-style pads and arcade sticks.

      SteelSeries
      Has 2 "Playstation-style" controllers, one for Android and Windows, one for iOS.

      Razer
      A well-known, high quality brand, they have Playstation and Xbox controllers, as well as regular arcade sticks.

      8bitdo
      You may have heard of them ;) they have NES and SNES controllers, some with additional triggers and analogue sticks, as well as an arcade stick. They used to have a N64 controller, maybe you can still find one.
      I have also found out while I typed this post, that they now provide a "universal USB adapter" that can plug PS3/4, Wii, WiiU and Switch controller on your Pi, PC, Mac and Switch.

      Ipega
      Yet another "generic" brand, they mostly provide generic-looking bluetooth controllers with phone stands included.

      Gamesir
      One of these new "high quality new Chinese brand" that seem to pop up everywhere these days. They build "generic" Xbox/PS clones pads, quite well built, having tried one myself, even though they are not very well compatible with the Pi.
      Their latest offering is the G5, which has a Steam Controller-like touch pad replacing the right stick, and like a thousand buttons.

      Hori
      Known for their arcade sticks, they also have fightpads, the Fighting Commander, with 6 face buttons, 2 of them hard-wired to 2 triggers.

      Xiaomi
      The brand known for their phones and other high-tech products also has a cheap Xbox-style gamepad.

      NVidia
      The Shield has had several iterations of their Xbox-style gamepad. It's compatible with Windows, maybe it's compatible with the Pi?

      Sony
      As you well know, the Dualshock 3 and 4 are compatible out-of-the-box with Retropie.

      Microsoft
      The Xbox 360 controllers are compatible out-of-the-box, I'm not quite sure about the Xbox One. Maybe the latest, bluetooth controllers work on the Pi ?

      Nintendo
      The Wiimotes and WiiU Pro pad are compatible with Retropie. The Switch Pro controller has been reported to work, if you put some time in configuring stuff.

      Steam
      The Steam Controller has been the first real innovation in the gamepad world since a long time. I'm not sure it's compatible with Retopie.

      Logitech
      They have built Playstation-style controllers for as long as I can remember.

      Scuf
      They provide Playstation and Xbox pads, and are actually the creators of the Xbox One Elite controller.

      Nacon
      Newcomer in the high-quality segment, they build Xbox and Playstation controllers targeted at the Xbox One Elite pad.

      Thrustmaster
      A "cheapo" builder of gamepads since 1990, they build Xbox and Playstation pads.

      Retrobit
      They provide replicas of Sega (Genesis and Saturn) and Nintendo (NES/SNES) pads. They used to have a lot more stuff (N64, Gamecube...) so maybe you can still find some online.

      Another, Libretro-licence-violating company builds replica pads of various systems (NES, SNES, Xbox, Gamecube, N64...).
      I won't name them here because of the Libretro situation, but their pads do not violate licences, so search for them at your own moral risk ;)

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      • mituM
        mitu Global Moderator @cosmo0
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        @cosmo0 I think Retro-Bit are also in breach of the Libretro license violation - https://www.libretro.com/index.php/appeal-to-game-journalists-about-retro-bit-and-about-the-new-retro-emulation-industry-in-general/ - because of their console.

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        • cosmo0C
          cosmo0 @mitu
          last edited by

          @mitu said in The hunt for the perfect controller.:

          @cosmo0 I think Retro-Bit are also in breach of the Libretro license violation - https://www.libretro.com/index.php/appeal-to-game-journalists-about-retro-bit-and-about-the-new-retro-emulation-industry-in-general/ - because of their console.

          Yes but apparently they're working towards a solution : https://www.libretro.com/index.php/eurogamer-article-on-non-commercial-license-violations-of-emulators/

          Out of the three parties involved, RetroBit so far has been willing to work with us in trying to remedy the problems with the launched product so far and come to a workable agreement between us and them. We applaud this and we hope that we will be able to resolve the issues in an amicable fashion.

          If it's a problem I can edit out the name in my post.

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          • mituM
            mitu Global Moderator @cosmo0
            last edited by mitu

            @cosmo0 said in The hunt for the perfect controller.:

            If it's a problem I can edit out the name in my post.

            No, I don't think it is. IMHO you could have referenced the 'other' infringing company, as long as the proper 'attribution' is added.

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            • GtBFilmsG
              GtBFilms
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              Interesting question, and one which I gave up looking for a single answer to!

              I don't think there's any controller that has enough buttons/sticks etc to be a sufficiently good jack-of-all-trades for all games.

              I've noticed I play much better using a proper arcade stick and buttons for arcade games, particularly shooters, fighting games, while there are a lot of console games that benefit from a control pad.

              Even in arcade games, I've noticed the difference in using a 4-way gated joystick on games that originally had a 4-way stick compared to an 8-way gate. They play so much better with the correct controls.

              The exception to that was Asteroids, which I had the good fortune to play the original arcade cab recently - no joystick, just buttons - and I actually found that harder to play than I do with a pad or stick.

              My solution has been to have a bit of a collection of controllers, and use which every one is suitable for the game I want to play at the time.

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              • K
                kikinaak Banned
                last edited by kikinaak

                Actually, I might have just found a contender. 2 analog sticks that have L/R3, D-pad, 6 face buttons, 4 shoulder buttons, and 4 buttons where you would find start and select. So total of 16 buttons. Its cheap, but the reviews are... not kind. Some are downright impolite. Also not a brand I've ever heard of. But its cheap, so I'll give it a try next payday and report back here. There's also only 2 left in stock so I'm not sharing the link yet. Dont want you guys to buy it out before I can grab one!

                I did look at that Gamesir G5. An impressive beast to be sure, but I dont care for the touchpad replacing the right analog stick. What would it take for retropie to even support that thing and map it to buttons? And the button layout is just wrong for classic gaming. Basically what I want would be a ps2 dual shock style controller with 6 or 8 buttons instead of 4 on the right side, and analog triggers.

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                  Beldar
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                  There was once a controller very close to what you are looking for. It was made by Hori and called the Ex 2 turbo for the Xbox 360. It is long out of manufacture, though.

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                  • cosmo0C
                    cosmo0 @Beldar
                    last edited by

                    Back when Saitek did gamepads, they made the P880 : 2 sticks and a d-pad, 6 face buttons, 2 triggers.

                    However, the d-pad was as awful as the Xbox 360 one :/

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                      kikinaak Banned
                      last edited by kikinaak

                      Well I wasnt able to pick up that contender after all, but I'll drop the link in case anybody else here has any experience with the thing. The brand is Ibuffalo. I've never heard of them, and like I said a lot of the reviews rip this thing apart, but its certainly got enough buttons and a good classic layout.
                      http://a.co/f5Smg6K

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                      • thelostsoulT
                        thelostsoul @kikinaak
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                        @kikinaak If its the same iBuffalo brand as the one I know, then I trust in them. I own a pair of iBuffalo SNES styled USB gamepads and the quality is well done and known for it.

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                        • KN4THXK
                          KN4THX
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                          Do they make a Sega Genesis turbo 6 button controller with shoulder/triggers? I thought they did back when my 66mhz PC used to play Street Fighter and Jill Of The Jungle.

                          "If you're gonna play the Game Boy, You gotta learn to play it right" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYLGl92ETNQ

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