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    Dualshock controllers on 4.4 with 3B+

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    • mituM
      mitu Global Moderator @rsn8887
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      @rsn8887 Did you update also the kernel and the OS packages ?

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        rsn8887
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        I don’t know. I selected the update option in the Retropie setup menu, then it asked me if I want to update from binary or source. I selected binary. I am not sure if that did a kernel or OS update?

        Is there a special, separate, option to update kernel and OS

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        • mituM
          mitu Global Moderator @rsn8887
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          @rsn8887 said in Dualshock controllers on 4.4 with 3B+:

          Is there a special, separate, option to update kernel and OS

          When you choose to - globally - update, there's a prompt if you Want to upgrade the underlying OS packages and the kernel. But that doesn't happen when you upgrade just one package - or the RetroPie script itself.

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            rsn8887 @mitu
            last edited by rsn8887

            @mitu I am pretty sure I selected yes there but I don’t remember that question coming up. I did not just update one single package that is for sure.

            What do you mean by -globally update? I selected some option like “update all packages” I didn’t see a global update option in the Retropie setup menu.

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            • mituM
              mitu Global Moderator @rsn8887
              last edited by mitu

              @rsn8887 When I say global update, I'm referring to the Update option in the global script menu.

              Global update

              When you select it, the RetroPie setup script is updated first, some post-update hooks are executed, then - before the packages are updated - there is a prompt to update the OS

              OS Update

              Regardless of your choice in this setup, all installed packages are subsequently updated (from binary).

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                rsn8887
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                Yes I chose that option, I must have pressed yes to the kernel question, but don't remember doing it.

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                  rsn8887
                  last edited by rsn8887

                  Nevermind I had accidentally removed the second dongle.

                  So it is still completely broken both using internal Bluetooth, external BT dongle or official Sony DS4 dongle. The problem is that a single DS4 controller shows up as two controllers, and one of those detected controllers reacts only to motion controls, e.g. tilting the controller.

                  And yes it is still broken both for the Sony DS4 dongle, as well as when using the regular Bluetooth pairing.

                  Even worse: some emulators such as AdvanceMAME react to BOTH joy1 (tilt/motion controls) and joy2 (regular buttons etc) when trying to map controls inside the emulator, and there’s no way to turn that off that I know off.

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                    arturochu
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                    any fix on this?

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                      rsn8887
                      last edited by rsn8887

                      I wonder if a rule along the lines of the ones here
                      https://github.com/denilsonsa/udev-joystick-blacklist

                      could be used to disable the erroneous additional controllers that are linked to motion controls?

                      Maybe adding a file named /etc/udev/rules.d/51-these-are-not-joysticks-rm.ruleswith the content

                      SUBSYSTEM=="input", ATTRS{idVendor}=="054c", ATTRS{idProduct}=="0268", NAME=="Sony PLAYSTATION(R)3 Controller Motion Sensors", ENV{ID_INPUT_JOYSTICK}=="?*", ENV{ID_INPUT_JOYSTICK}=""
                      
                      SUBSYSTEM=="input", ATTRS{idVendor}=="054c", ATTRS{idProduct}=="0268", NAME=="Sony PLAYSTATION(R)3 Controller Motion Sensors", KERNEL=="js[0-9]*", RUN+="/bin/rm %E{DEVNAME}", ENV{ID_INPUT_JOYSTICK}=""
                      

                      Would help for DS3, and maybe adding two similar lines for DS4, with the correct names and ids might fix this problem. I don't know the names and ids for DS4 at the moment.

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                      • mituM
                        mitu Global Moderator @rsn8887
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                        @rsn8887 I don't think they're not erroneus, the choice was deliberate to make them like this. The onus lies in the input processing libraries - like SDL - to make use of them.

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                          rsn8887
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                          Maybe in some distant future SDL and all the emulators will find some approach for correct use of the motion controls. But for now, I think the best approach is just to disable them altogether. The nice thing about these rules is that they can be commented out very easily.

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                          • mituM
                            mitu Global Moderator @rsn8887
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                            @rsn8887 I agree, it's a quick fix that's easy to implement (maybe toggled on/off).

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                              rsn8887
                              last edited by rsn8887

                              EDIT: The instructions below don't work. See the latest post in this thread for the correct instructions.

                              I did some reading and I think the fix involves creating a new file, named
                              /etc/udev/rules.d/81-disable-DS3-and-DS4-motion-controls.rules

                              with content

                              #disable DS3 motion controls
                              SUBSYSTEM=="input", ATTRS{idVendor}=="054c", ATTRS{idProduct}=="0268", NAME=="Sony PLAYSTATION(R)3 Controller Motion Sensors", ENV{ID_INPUT_JOYSTICK}=="?*", ENV{ID_INPUT_JOYSTICK}=""
                              
                              SUBSYSTEM=="input", ATTRS{idVendor}=="054c", ATTRS{idProduct}=="0268", NAME=="Sony PLAYSTATION(R)3 Controller Motion Sensors", KERNEL=="js[0-9]*", RUN+="/bin/rm %E{DEVNAME}", ENV{ID_INPUT_JOYSTICK}=""
                              
                              #disable DS4 motion controls
                              SUBSYSTEM=="input", ATTRS{idVendor}=="XXXX", ATTRS{idProduct}=="YYYY", NAME=="ZZZZ", ENV{ID_INPUT_JOYSTICK}=="?*", ENV{ID_INPUT_JOYSTICK}=""
                              
                              SUBSYSTEM=="input", ATTRS{idVendor}=="XXXX", ATTRS{idProduct}=="YYYY", NAME=="ZZZZ", KERNEL=="js[0-9]*", RUN+="/bin/rm %E{DEVNAME}", ENV{ID_INPUT_JOYSTICK}=""
                              

                              Where XXXX, YYYY, and ZZZZ are the as-of-yet-unknown strings idVendor, idProduct, and name of the motion control device linked to a DS4 Controller. These variables could be determined if someone with a DS4 connected could run cat /proc/bus/input/devices and post the output here. More lines might be neccessary if the DS4 Controller strings change depending on whether it is connected via BT, USB cable or Sony dongle.

                              The idVendor and idProduct parts might even be removed, and we might only match the name.

                              I suppose the file should have root permissions (?).

                              I have a hunch this might work but haven't tested it.

                              Further reading:
                              https://hackaday.com/2009/09/18/how-to-write-udev-rules/
                              and
                              https://github.com/denilsonsa/udev-joystick-blacklist

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                              • mituM
                                mitu Global Moderator @rsn8887
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                                @rsn8887 Here's a DS4 connected via bluetooth

                                I: Bus=0005 Vendor=054c Product=09cc Version=8100
                                N: Name="Wireless Controller Touchpad"
                                P: Phys=00:1a:7d:da:71:09
                                S: Sysfs=/devices/platform/soc/3f980000.usb/usb1/1-1/1-1.2/1-1.2:1.0/bluetooth/hci0/hci0:71/0005:054C:09CC.0002/input/input2
                                U: Uniq=dc:0c:2d:86:41:f6
                                H: Handlers=event0 
                                B: PROP=5
                                B: EV=b
                                B: KEY=2420 0 10000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
                                B: ABS=2608000 0
                                
                                I: Bus=0005 Vendor=054c Product=09cc Version=8100
                                N: Name="Wireless Controller Motion Sensors"
                                P: Phys=00:1a:7d:da:71:09
                                S: Sysfs=/devices/platform/soc/3f980000.usb/usb1/1-1/1-1.2/1-1.2:1.0/bluetooth/hci0/hci0:71/0005:054C:09CC.0002/input/input3
                                U: Uniq=dc:0c:2d:86:41:f6
                                H: Handlers=event1 
                                B: PROP=40
                                B: EV=19
                                B: ABS=3f
                                B: MSC=20
                                
                                I: Bus=0005 Vendor=054c Product=09cc Version=8100
                                N: Name="Wireless Controller"
                                P: Phys=00:1a:7d:da:71:09
                                S: Sysfs=/devices/platform/soc/3f980000.usb/usb1/1-1/1-1.2/1-1.2:1.0/bluetooth/hci0/hci0:71/0005:054C:09CC.0002/input/input1
                                U: Uniq=dc:0c:2d:86:41:f6
                                H: Handlers=js0 event2 
                                B: PROP=0
                                B: EV=20001b
                                B: KEY=7fdb0000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
                                B: ABS=3003f
                                B: MSC=10
                                B: FF=1 7030000 0 0
                                
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                                  rsn8887
                                  last edited by rsn8887

                                  Perfect thanks, so my solution would be this, completely untested so far:

                                  • ssh into your RetroPie

                                  • enter

                                  sudo nano /etc/udev/rules.d/51-disable-DS3-and-DS4-motion-controls.rules
                                  
                                  • paste the following the editor
                                  #disable DS3 motion controls
                                  SUBSYSTEM=="input", ATTRS{idVendor}=="054c", ATTRS{idProduct}=="0268", NAME=="Sony PLAYSTATION(R)3 Controller Motion Sensors", ENV{ID_INPUT_JOYSTICK}=="?*", ENV{ID_INPUT_JOYSTICK}=""
                                  
                                  SUBSYSTEM=="input", ATTRS{idVendor}=="054c", ATTRS{idProduct}=="0268", NAME=="Sony PLAYSTATION(R)3 Controller Motion Sensors", KERNEL=="js[0-9]*", RUN+="/bin/rm %E{DEVNAME}", ENV{ID_INPUT_JOYSTICK}=""
                                  
                                  #disable DS4 motion controls
                                  SUBSYSTEM=="input", ATTRS{idVendor}=="054c", ATTRS{idProduct}=="09cc", NAME=="Wireless Controller Motion Sensors", ENV{ID_INPUT_JOYSTICK}=="?*", ENV{ID_INPUT_JOYSTICK}=""
                                  
                                  SUBSYSTEM=="input", ATTRS{idVendor}=="054c", ATTRS{idProduct}=="09cc", NAME=="Wireless Controller Motion Sensors", KERNEL=="js[0-9]*", RUN+="/bin/rm %E{DEVNAME}", ENV{ID_INPUT_JOYSTICK}=""
                                  
                                  • Hit CTRL-x and y to save

                                  • reboot and see if motion controls are disabled

                                  It probably requires some tweaking still, but something along these lines should work.

                                  I am confused that the Name is "Wireless Controller" and not Dualshock 4 or some such. Maybe a bug in the Linux Kernel?

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                                  • mituM
                                    mitu Global Moderator @rsn8887
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                                    • edmaul69E
                                      edmaul69
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                                      So question, on 4.4 am i the only one that had to assign the hotkey to the ps button? Even though the config shows select as the hotkey it would not work. I had to make the ps button the hotkey for it to work.

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                                      • hooperreH
                                        hooperre @edmaul69
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                                        @edmaul69 Mine works as select :\

                                        4B ~ RPi PSU 5.1V / 3.0A ~ 32GB SanDisk microSD ~ 128GB USB

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                                          edmaul69 @hooperre
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                                          @hooperre yeah it was the wirdest thing.

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                                            darkblaster77 @rsn8887
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                                            @rsn8887
                                            Tried it with 2 x DS4 controllers. It doesn't work.

                                            Did anyone manage to get this working?

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