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    mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support

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    • mediamogulM
      mediamogul Global Moderator @akafox
      last edited by mediamogul

      @akafox said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

      so this core here what exactly is it?

      lr-mame2003-plus 'backports' features and fixes that were added later than the 2003 version of MAME (0.78). These additions include new playable games, as well as fixes to issues that were exclusive to the RetroArch port, such as the inability to play Midway MCR games, which was not an issue with the original MAME 0.78. So, basically it adds a grab bag of good stuff from later versions of MAME and puts it all into an older incarnation of MAME that is know to perform well on low-end hardware like the Raspberry Pi.

      RetroPie v4.5 • RPi3 Model B • 5.1V 2.5A PSU • 16GB SanDisk microSD • 512GB External Drive

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      • akafoxA
        akafox @mediamogul
        last edited by akafox

        @mediamogul ah okay that makes sense just like advance mame did with the cps3 game and a few others...never updated [to a newer version] or "used newer roms" just "updated the code" to run newer games..but same base..(one ting I like about advance mame...).

        Too bad MS didn't do that with DOS and Windows 3.1..but that's a debate for an entirely different forum xD

        Thank you for your informative answer..I will defiantly look into it! :D
        Is there any place there is a list of the roms that work? (retropie wiki maybe?)
        I tried the mame2003-midway core one time but was told the main core absorbed that hack/fix but this core is not "just midway" roms I take it..

        People want things easy...but then complain that life is boring...

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        • mituM
          mitu Global Moderator @akafox
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          @akafox said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

          Is there any place there is a list of the roms that work? (retropie wiki maybe?)

          The Changelog has the list of new additions. Check out the 1st post in the topic and the project's github page for more details.

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            grant2258 Banned @mitu
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            it was me that fixed the midway games on mame2003 and mame2003 plus they work on both cores now

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            • mediamogulM
              mediamogul Global Moderator @grant2258
              last edited by mediamogul

              @grant2258

              And you should be commended for it. I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say thank you. Those particular titles are among the cornerstones of retro-gaming and video game history in general.

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              • RiverstormR
                Riverstorm
                last edited by Riverstorm

                Here's an updated list of the ROMs that are new or updated in Plus. New means they are exclusive to only Plus and updated means at least one ROM has been added, removed or modified in the set and is now different. The rest of the games are 100% identical to 2003 (roughly 4,548). I don't have a handy way to convert them back to their full names but I think it's still a useful list.

                This list doesn't include fixes for existing ROMs but many of those changes have been merged into 2003. Also there's quite a few custom OST's that have been added that work with parent and clones which are really neat and I believe more will be add down the road.

                @grant2258 did some work on the last custom OST that has FLAC support which allowed the samples to be reduced in size by almost 50%. I think FLAC support is a step in the right direction for modern day.

                Also @markwkidd did some work to improve vector game support. It's not equal to AdvMAME standards but it's been much improved over 2003.

                He also did some work on the Retropad abstraction layer challenges. So "ghosting inputs" have been cleaned up and the ability to do <NOT> mappings has been improved. So you have more input interfaces and some new retropad layouts.

                @grant2258 did made some changes to neogeo.zip BIOS file names so you have the ability to merge multiple BIOS file versions of equal name different hashes into one neogeo.zip. Basically you have the ability to use one neogeo.zip file for both cores or possibly 3 cores like FBA too but I haven't tested 3 yet.

                Also several minor improvements for games behind the scenes like getting into 'F2', etc. have been fixed.

                I am sure to be missing some highlights but to be fair to 2003. It does have 2 games not supported in Plus. I can figure it out if it's important but they weren't major games if I remember.

                Also the other day I was messing with After Burner and Outrun and I found 2003 to be smoother and I was able to pull off a barrel roll in 2003 After Burner but I couldn't do the same in Plus. I have no idea why. So basically I use 2003 as a benchmark or for contrast if something isn't working correctly in Plus.

                Plus is a great core and if it has a favorite game or feature not supported in 2003 it's definitely worth checking out.

                Games new to Plus (133 games):

                1943mii.zip
                acpsx.zip
                airattck.zip
                airattcka.zip
                arescue.zip
                asurabus.zip
                avengrgsj.zip
                backfire.zip
                baryon.zip
                bbbuster.zip
                boogwing.zip
                boogwinga.zip
                brapboysj.zip
                bsharkjjs.zip
                bublbob1.zip
                bublboblp.zip
                cabala.zip
                cabalus.zip
                cabalus2.zip
                candance.zip
                ccastlej.zip
                chainrec.zip
                charlien.zip
                countrb2.zip
                crswd2bl.zip
                cutefght.zip
                darkmist.zip
                dblewing.zip
                ddream95.zip
                deluxe5.zip
                denjinmk.zip
                dietgo.zip
                dietgoe.zip
                dietgoj.zip
                dietgou.zip
                dkongx.zip
                dogosokj.zip
                downtowj.zip
                dreamwld.zip
                drgnwrld.zip
                dynagear.zip
                esckidsj.zip
                fixeighb.zip
                gaialast.zip
                ghostlop.zip
                glasskr.zip
                gnbarich.zip
                gunmast.zip
                hachamfb.zip
                hcrash.zip
                hcrashc.zip
                hedpanicf.zip
                hedpanico.zip
                hookj.zip
                hoops96.zip
                hsf2a.zip
                hvysmsh.zip
                hvysmsha.zip
                hvysmshj.zip
                ikari3nr.zip
                inyourfa.zip
                ironclad.zip
                joemacr.zip
                joemacra.zip
                kbash2.zip
                killbld.zip
                kof2001.zip
                kof2002.zip
                lasthope.zip
                lethalen.zip
                magdrop.zip
                magdropp.zip
                matrim.zip
                mchampdx.zip
                mchampdxa.zip
                midresbj.zip
                msgogo.zip
                mslug4.zip
                mslug5.zip
                multchmpk.zip
                mwarr.zip
                nslasherj.zip
                nslashers.zip
                olds.zip
                olds103t.zip
                osman.zip
                packbang.zip
                pktgaldj.zip
                pktgaldx.zip
                plegends.zip
                pnyaa.zip
                progear.zip
                progearj.zip
                pturn.zip
                puzlstar.zip
                pzloop2j.zip
                ragtime.zip
                ragtimea.zip
                riot.zip
                rockn2.zip
                rockn3.zip
                rockn4.zip
                rockna.zip
                rolcrush.zip
                rotd.zip
                sabotnba.zip
                samsh5sp.zip
                samsho5.zip
                sbishi.zip
                sbishik.zip
                sengoku3.zip
                skullfng.zip
                skullfngj.zip
                sonicbom.zip
                suprridr.zip
                svcboot.zip
                swatpolc.zip
                tangtang.zip
                teetert.zip
                tgm2.zip
                tgm2p.zip
                thoop.zip
                vasara2.zip
                vasara2a.zip
                vbowl.zip
                vbowlj.zip
                vmetal.zip
                wbmlvc.zip
                wcvol95.zip
                wcvol95x.zip
                wingforc.zip
                zintrckb.zip
                zupapa.zip
                

                Updated from 2003 to Plus (39 games):

                alcon.zip
                avengrgs.zip
                bloodwar.zip
                bonkadv.zip
                brapboys.zip
                bubbobr1.zip
                bublbobl.zip
                bublbobr.zip
                cabal.zip
                chinagat.zip
                countrnb.zip
                esckids.zip
                fireshrk.zip
                fjbuster.zip
                gtmr.zip
                hachamf.zip
                hedpanic.zip
                hydrap.zip
                hydrap2.zip
                jdredd.zip
                jdreddb.zip
                multchmp.zip
                mustache.zip
                nbajamex.zip
                neogeo.zip
                omega.zip
                rockn.zip
                saiyugou.zip
                samesam2.zip
                samesame.zip
                shogwarr.zip
                slapfigh.zip
                tdragon.zip
                titlef.zip
                tmekprot.zip
                vimana.zip
                vimana1.zip
                vimanan.zip
                winspike.zip
                
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                  grant2258 Banned @Riverstorm
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                  The analog problem was fixed yesterday

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                  • RiverstormR
                    Riverstorm @grant2258
                    last edited by

                    @grant2258 said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

                    The analog problem was fixed yesterday

                    Thanks, I just updated from source and they perform identical now.

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                      gizmobjb
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                      I can't get most of the chd games to work. Is there a trick to get them running. I have them in the arcade folder with the roms, and they are each in separate folders with names matching the rom names.

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                      • AndersHPA
                        AndersHP
                        last edited by AndersHP

                        It seems Timber doesn't save hiscores?
                        lr-mame2010 does, but lr-mame2003-plus doesn't..?

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                        • Stuart2773S
                          Stuart2773
                          last edited by Stuart2773

                          @Riverstorm @markwkidd @grant2258

                          if there any chance of a title screen/intro graphics fix on AfterBurner & Afterburner II ?

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                          i checked them in lr-mame2016 and they seem to be fixed

                          thanks.

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                            grant2258 Banned
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                            what exacly is missing from the afterburner

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                              grant2258 Banned
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                              ost samples have been removed from the dat too many people think they are missing samples when they have the mono set.

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                              • RiverstormR
                                Riverstorm @gizmobjb
                                last edited by

                                @gizmobjb said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

                                I can't get most of the chd games to work. Is there a trick to get them running. I have them in the arcade folder with the roms, and they are each in separate folders with names matching the rom names.

                                CHD's do work and you're putting them in the correct location. You might try running them through ClrMamePro with the DAT to verify you're using CHDv3. They have to be a specific version to work.

                                @AndersHP - Maybe @grant2258 would know how to tell if a game has hiscore support. I tried it also and it doesn't save in Plus. Even looking at the current hiscore.dat I don't find a Timber entry. Maybe it's an NVRAM setting.

                                @Stuart2773 - I am using a Pi 3 running RetroPie 4.3 and both games play the intro fully with no graphical issues.

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                                • RiverstormR
                                  Riverstorm
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                                  @gizmobjb - It might also be worth mentioning if you're using a Pi as your platform the CHD performance is anywhere from a miss to slow motion play. The Pi just doesn't have enough oomph to make them playable really.

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                                  • Stuart2773S
                                    Stuart2773 @grant2258
                                    last edited by Stuart2773

                                    @grant2258 said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

                                    what exacly is missing from the afterburner

                                    @riverstorm said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

                                    @Stuart2773 - I am using a Pi 3 running RetroPie 4.3 and both games play the intro fully with no graphical issues.

                                    heres what it looks like in lr-mame2003-plus:-
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                                    heres what the same romset looks like in lr-mame2016:-

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                                    the build im using is Pi 3 running RetroPie 4.4

                                    mame 2016 shows the correct colors when playing the game unlike 2003-plus which shows a blue background on the intro screens on both afterburner & afterburner 2 instead of the black one on mame2016 & lr-fbalpha

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                                      gizmobjb @Riverstorm
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                                      @riverstorm thank you. Everything is correct, no chd missing or incorrect versions when I scan. Maybe they will start I just need to wait longer since I am on a pi3. The folders just need to match the rom name so I got that right.

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                                      • RiverstormR
                                        Riverstorm
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                                        @Stuart2773 - I see what you're saying. I have the same deal with the blue background. I opened an issue here. I think it will take one of the core programmers to fix the issue if it can be fixed.

                                        @gizmobjb - Right the CHD folder and ROM need to match but not necessarily the CHD itself. I was using Area 51 for testing and it only takes about 10 seconds before the intro screens should start. It shouldn't take to long.

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                                          gizmobjb
                                          last edited by gizmobjb

                                          @Riverstorm Area 51 is the only one I got to work. Are you able to test the others.

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                                          • RiverstormR
                                            Riverstorm @gizmobjb
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                                            @gizmobjb said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

                                            @Riverstorm Area 51 is the only one I got to work. Are you able to test the others.

                                            I tried a few and most worked but slowly. Judge Dredd crashed with a seg fault but not sure if it's the ROM or CHD causing the issue.

                                            Area 51 (Good)
                                            Crypt Killer (Good, screen is in the upper left hand corner but proportionate)
                                            Judge Dredd (runcommand.sh: line 1008: 4347 Segmentation fault)
                                            Killer Instinct (Good)
                                            Killer Instinct 2 (Good)
                                            Maximum Force (Good)
                                            San Francisco Rush (Good, but couldn't get past steering wheel check screen)
                                            War Gods (Good)

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