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mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support

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    mediamogul Global Moderator @akafox
    last edited by mediamogul 26 Jul 2018, 15:12

    @akafox said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

    so this core here what exactly is it?

    lr-mame2003-plus 'backports' features and fixes that were added later than the 2003 version of MAME (0.78). These additions include new playable games, as well as fixes to issues that were exclusive to the RetroArch port, such as the inability to play Midway MCR games, which was not an issue with the original MAME 0.78. So, basically it adds a grab bag of good stuff from later versions of MAME and puts it all into an older incarnation of MAME that is know to perform well on low-end hardware like the Raspberry Pi.

    RetroPie v4.5 • RPi3 Model B • 5.1V 2.5A PSU • 16GB SanDisk microSD • 512GB External Drive

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      akafox @mediamogul
      last edited by akafox 26 Jul 2018, 16:07

      @mediamogul ah okay that makes sense just like advance mame did with the cps3 game and a few others...never updated [to a newer version] or "used newer roms" just "updated the code" to run newer games..but same base..(one ting I like about advance mame...).

      Too bad MS didn't do that with DOS and Windows 3.1..but that's a debate for an entirely different forum xD

      Thank you for your informative answer..I will defiantly look into it! :D
      Is there any place there is a list of the roms that work? (retropie wiki maybe?)
      I tried the mame2003-midway core one time but was told the main core absorbed that hack/fix but this core is not "just midway" roms I take it..

      People want things easy...but then complain that life is boring...

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        mitu Global Moderator @akafox
        last edited by 26 Jul 2018, 16:13

        @akafox said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

        Is there any place there is a list of the roms that work? (retropie wiki maybe?)

        The Changelog has the list of new additions. Check out the 1st post in the topic and the project's github page for more details.

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          grant2258 Banned @mitu
          last edited by 26 Jul 2018, 16:59

          it was me that fixed the midway games on mame2003 and mame2003 plus they work on both cores now

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            mediamogul Global Moderator @grant2258
            last edited by mediamogul 26 Jul 2018, 18:20

            @grant2258

            And you should be commended for it. I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say thank you. Those particular titles are among the cornerstones of retro-gaming and video game history in general.

            RetroPie v4.5 • RPi3 Model B • 5.1V 2.5A PSU • 16GB SanDisk microSD • 512GB External Drive

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              Riverstorm
              last edited by Riverstorm 26 Jul 2018, 18:29

              Here's an updated list of the ROMs that are new or updated in Plus. New means they are exclusive to only Plus and updated means at least one ROM has been added, removed or modified in the set and is now different. The rest of the games are 100% identical to 2003 (roughly 4,548). I don't have a handy way to convert them back to their full names but I think it's still a useful list.

              This list doesn't include fixes for existing ROMs but many of those changes have been merged into 2003. Also there's quite a few custom OST's that have been added that work with parent and clones which are really neat and I believe more will be add down the road.

              @grant2258 did some work on the last custom OST that has FLAC support which allowed the samples to be reduced in size by almost 50%. I think FLAC support is a step in the right direction for modern day.

              Also @markwkidd did some work to improve vector game support. It's not equal to AdvMAME standards but it's been much improved over 2003.

              He also did some work on the Retropad abstraction layer challenges. So "ghosting inputs" have been cleaned up and the ability to do <NOT> mappings has been improved. So you have more input interfaces and some new retropad layouts.

              @grant2258 did made some changes to neogeo.zip BIOS file names so you have the ability to merge multiple BIOS file versions of equal name different hashes into one neogeo.zip. Basically you have the ability to use one neogeo.zip file for both cores or possibly 3 cores like FBA too but I haven't tested 3 yet.

              Also several minor improvements for games behind the scenes like getting into 'F2', etc. have been fixed.

              I am sure to be missing some highlights but to be fair to 2003. It does have 2 games not supported in Plus. I can figure it out if it's important but they weren't major games if I remember.

              Also the other day I was messing with After Burner and Outrun and I found 2003 to be smoother and I was able to pull off a barrel roll in 2003 After Burner but I couldn't do the same in Plus. I have no idea why. So basically I use 2003 as a benchmark or for contrast if something isn't working correctly in Plus.

              Plus is a great core and if it has a favorite game or feature not supported in 2003 it's definitely worth checking out.

              Games new to Plus (133 games):

              1943mii.zip
              acpsx.zip
              airattck.zip
              airattcka.zip
              arescue.zip
              asurabus.zip
              avengrgsj.zip
              backfire.zip
              baryon.zip
              bbbuster.zip
              boogwing.zip
              boogwinga.zip
              brapboysj.zip
              bsharkjjs.zip
              bublbob1.zip
              bublboblp.zip
              cabala.zip
              cabalus.zip
              cabalus2.zip
              candance.zip
              ccastlej.zip
              chainrec.zip
              charlien.zip
              countrb2.zip
              crswd2bl.zip
              cutefght.zip
              darkmist.zip
              dblewing.zip
              ddream95.zip
              deluxe5.zip
              denjinmk.zip
              dietgo.zip
              dietgoe.zip
              dietgoj.zip
              dietgou.zip
              dkongx.zip
              dogosokj.zip
              downtowj.zip
              dreamwld.zip
              drgnwrld.zip
              dynagear.zip
              esckidsj.zip
              fixeighb.zip
              gaialast.zip
              ghostlop.zip
              glasskr.zip
              gnbarich.zip
              gunmast.zip
              hachamfb.zip
              hcrash.zip
              hcrashc.zip
              hedpanicf.zip
              hedpanico.zip
              hookj.zip
              hoops96.zip
              hsf2a.zip
              hvysmsh.zip
              hvysmsha.zip
              hvysmshj.zip
              ikari3nr.zip
              inyourfa.zip
              ironclad.zip
              joemacr.zip
              joemacra.zip
              kbash2.zip
              killbld.zip
              kof2001.zip
              kof2002.zip
              lasthope.zip
              lethalen.zip
              magdrop.zip
              magdropp.zip
              matrim.zip
              mchampdx.zip
              mchampdxa.zip
              midresbj.zip
              msgogo.zip
              mslug4.zip
              mslug5.zip
              multchmpk.zip
              mwarr.zip
              nslasherj.zip
              nslashers.zip
              olds.zip
              olds103t.zip
              osman.zip
              packbang.zip
              pktgaldj.zip
              pktgaldx.zip
              plegends.zip
              pnyaa.zip
              progear.zip
              progearj.zip
              pturn.zip
              puzlstar.zip
              pzloop2j.zip
              ragtime.zip
              ragtimea.zip
              riot.zip
              rockn2.zip
              rockn3.zip
              rockn4.zip
              rockna.zip
              rolcrush.zip
              rotd.zip
              sabotnba.zip
              samsh5sp.zip
              samsho5.zip
              sbishi.zip
              sbishik.zip
              sengoku3.zip
              skullfng.zip
              skullfngj.zip
              sonicbom.zip
              suprridr.zip
              svcboot.zip
              swatpolc.zip
              tangtang.zip
              teetert.zip
              tgm2.zip
              tgm2p.zip
              thoop.zip
              vasara2.zip
              vasara2a.zip
              vbowl.zip
              vbowlj.zip
              vmetal.zip
              wbmlvc.zip
              wcvol95.zip
              wcvol95x.zip
              wingforc.zip
              zintrckb.zip
              zupapa.zip
              

              Updated from 2003 to Plus (39 games):

              alcon.zip
              avengrgs.zip
              bloodwar.zip
              bonkadv.zip
              brapboys.zip
              bubbobr1.zip
              bublbobl.zip
              bublbobr.zip
              cabal.zip
              chinagat.zip
              countrnb.zip
              esckids.zip
              fireshrk.zip
              fjbuster.zip
              gtmr.zip
              hachamf.zip
              hedpanic.zip
              hydrap.zip
              hydrap2.zip
              jdredd.zip
              jdreddb.zip
              multchmp.zip
              mustache.zip
              nbajamex.zip
              neogeo.zip
              omega.zip
              rockn.zip
              saiyugou.zip
              samesam2.zip
              samesame.zip
              shogwarr.zip
              slapfigh.zip
              tdragon.zip
              titlef.zip
              tmekprot.zip
              vimana.zip
              vimana1.zip
              vimanan.zip
              winspike.zip
              
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                grant2258 Banned @Riverstorm
                last edited by 26 Jul 2018, 21:13

                The analog problem was fixed yesterday

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                  Riverstorm @grant2258
                  last edited by 26 Jul 2018, 23:24

                  @grant2258 said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

                  The analog problem was fixed yesterday

                  Thanks, I just updated from source and they perform identical now.

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                    gizmobjb
                    last edited by 27 Jul 2018, 12:29

                    I can't get most of the chd games to work. Is there a trick to get them running. I have them in the arcade folder with the roms, and they are each in separate folders with names matching the rom names.

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                      AndersHP
                      last edited by AndersHP 27 Jul 2018, 12:31

                      It seems Timber doesn't save hiscores?
                      lr-mame2010 does, but lr-mame2003-plus doesn't..?

                      My "Bubble Bobble" Themed Bartop Arcade
                      My Gameboy

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                        Stuart2773
                        last edited by Stuart2773 27 Jul 2018, 13:42

                        @Riverstorm @markwkidd @grant2258

                        if there any chance of a title screen/intro graphics fix on AfterBurner & Afterburner II ?

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                        i checked them in lr-mame2016 and they seem to be fixed

                        thanks.

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                          grant2258 Banned
                          last edited by grant2258 27 Jul 2018, 16:59

                          what exacly is missing from the afterburner

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                            grant2258 Banned
                            last edited by 27 Jul 2018, 17:16

                            ost samples have been removed from the dat too many people think they are missing samples when they have the mono set.

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                              Riverstorm @gizmobjb
                              last edited by 27 Jul 2018, 17:55

                              @gizmobjb said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

                              I can't get most of the chd games to work. Is there a trick to get them running. I have them in the arcade folder with the roms, and they are each in separate folders with names matching the rom names.

                              CHD's do work and you're putting them in the correct location. You might try running them through ClrMamePro with the DAT to verify you're using CHDv3. They have to be a specific version to work.

                              @AndersHP - Maybe @grant2258 would know how to tell if a game has hiscore support. I tried it also and it doesn't save in Plus. Even looking at the current hiscore.dat I don't find a Timber entry. Maybe it's an NVRAM setting.

                              @Stuart2773 - I am using a Pi 3 running RetroPie 4.3 and both games play the intro fully with no graphical issues.

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                                Riverstorm
                                last edited by 27 Jul 2018, 18:29

                                @gizmobjb - It might also be worth mentioning if you're using a Pi as your platform the CHD performance is anywhere from a miss to slow motion play. The Pi just doesn't have enough oomph to make them playable really.

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                                  Stuart2773 @grant2258
                                  last edited by Stuart2773 27 Jul 2018, 18:50

                                  @grant2258 said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

                                  what exacly is missing from the afterburner

                                  @riverstorm said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

                                  @Stuart2773 - I am using a Pi 3 running RetroPie 4.3 and both games play the intro fully with no graphical issues.

                                  heres what it looks like in lr-mame2003-plus:-
                                  0_1532716811750_aburner-180727-192858.png
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                                  heres what the same romset looks like in lr-mame2016:-

                                  0_1532716863547_aburner-180727-193057.png
                                  0_1532716921995_aburner2-180727-192002.png

                                  the build im using is Pi 3 running RetroPie 4.4

                                  mame 2016 shows the correct colors when playing the game unlike 2003-plus which shows a blue background on the intro screens on both afterburner & afterburner 2 instead of the black one on mame2016 & lr-fbalpha

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                                    gizmobjb @Riverstorm
                                    last edited by 27 Jul 2018, 19:44

                                    @riverstorm thank you. Everything is correct, no chd missing or incorrect versions when I scan. Maybe they will start I just need to wait longer since I am on a pi3. The folders just need to match the rom name so I got that right.

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                                      Riverstorm
                                      last edited by 27 Jul 2018, 21:55

                                      @Stuart2773 - I see what you're saying. I have the same deal with the blue background. I opened an issue here. I think it will take one of the core programmers to fix the issue if it can be fixed.

                                      @gizmobjb - Right the CHD folder and ROM need to match but not necessarily the CHD itself. I was using Area 51 for testing and it only takes about 10 seconds before the intro screens should start. It shouldn't take to long.

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                                        gizmobjb
                                        last edited by gizmobjb 27 Jul 2018, 22:18

                                        @Riverstorm Area 51 is the only one I got to work. Are you able to test the others.

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                                          Riverstorm @gizmobjb
                                          last edited by 27 Jul 2018, 23:20

                                          @gizmobjb said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

                                          @Riverstorm Area 51 is the only one I got to work. Are you able to test the others.

                                          I tried a few and most worked but slowly. Judge Dredd crashed with a seg fault but not sure if it's the ROM or CHD causing the issue.

                                          Area 51 (Good)
                                          Crypt Killer (Good, screen is in the upper left hand corner but proportionate)
                                          Judge Dredd (runcommand.sh: line 1008: 4347 Segmentation fault)
                                          Killer Instinct (Good)
                                          Killer Instinct 2 (Good)
                                          Maximum Force (Good)
                                          San Francisco Rush (Good, but couldn't get past steering wheel check screen)
                                          War Gods (Good)

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