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    mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support

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    • mediamogulM
      mediamogul Global Moderator @grant2258
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      @grant2258 said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

      I personally use something else for my barcade that lets me use native emulators and have my retropie at the tv for the old consoles although I have these in my barcade as well.

      Very nice. I have a similar setup myself. I use an older, but more powerful computer in my MAME cabinet and I use my Pi for console gaming and whatever arcade games I can squeeze out of it. Despite it's technical superiority, I don't really play or work on my cabinet very much. For whatever reason, I've just always found it more fun working and playing with the Pi.

      RetroPie v4.5 • RPi3 Model B • 5.1V 2.5A PSU • 16GB SanDisk microSD • 512GB External Drive

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        grant2258 Banned @mediamogul
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        I have to admit I think retropie has a real strength that lot of other pi distros don't it supports native emulators as well. Going 100% ra locks users in that environment. I like tinkering and customizing it is nice to have options

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        • mediamogulM
          mediamogul Global Moderator @grant2258
          last edited by mediamogul

          @grant2258

          I definitely agree. RetroArch is a technical marvel with all it does and I use it in most instances, but the ability to explore other options that might suit certain use cases better is a real benefit.

          RetroPie v4.5 • RPi3 Model B • 5.1V 2.5A PSU • 16GB SanDisk microSD • 512GB External Drive

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            gizmobjb
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            Quick question I have the moonwalker bootleg samples, so I just put them in the sample folder and thats it right. Sorry I know that's a stupid question.

            Also I got the ffight.zip of the ost samples but it missing a lot of files. Is there a complete set of the ffight samples?

            Thank you

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            • akafoxA
              akafox @mediamogul
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              @mediamogul well it has to be that way with mame a lot..but emulation in general.
              With updates comes breaks..that is they update it to fix or improve it and then they break something else. So you go to an older version that worked.

              I would prefer to use "native emulators" myself but RetroArch is updated frequently and a big community around it. They do have separate cores for some emulators which is nice. At first I was not using mame cores because I could not get into the dipswitch menu..that is a must for some games..but then it was fixed.

              On the other hand I have a system here that i have four versions of an arcade emulator on just to get things to work. I have standard mame..then I have FBA..then advmame 1.4..then Fast MAME..it's a single core 1.4ghz with 384 Mb of DDR ram and a 40Gb (IDE) HHD...so it's slow...but the different versions of mame allow me to run almost everything..yes even KI and MK at full speed.

              But back to topic...
              umm..I have a dumb question embarrassed
              so this core here what exactly is it? I have been watching it for sometime..and I gather it is a version of mame (core) to get games to play..or run better (in a nutshell) I do want to try it out..any value on it over the mame 2003 core over all?
              guess i need to break down and try it out huh? lol it is in the retroarch get hub page right?..or downloadable from the retroarch gui?

              People want things easy...but then complain that life is boring...

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              • mediamogulM
                mediamogul Global Moderator @akafox
                last edited by mediamogul

                @akafox said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

                so this core here what exactly is it?

                lr-mame2003-plus 'backports' features and fixes that were added later than the 2003 version of MAME (0.78). These additions include new playable games, as well as fixes to issues that were exclusive to the RetroArch port, such as the inability to play Midway MCR games, which was not an issue with the original MAME 0.78. So, basically it adds a grab bag of good stuff from later versions of MAME and puts it all into an older incarnation of MAME that is know to perform well on low-end hardware like the Raspberry Pi.

                RetroPie v4.5 • RPi3 Model B • 5.1V 2.5A PSU • 16GB SanDisk microSD • 512GB External Drive

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                • akafoxA
                  akafox @mediamogul
                  last edited by akafox

                  @mediamogul ah okay that makes sense just like advance mame did with the cps3 game and a few others...never updated [to a newer version] or "used newer roms" just "updated the code" to run newer games..but same base..(one ting I like about advance mame...).

                  Too bad MS didn't do that with DOS and Windows 3.1..but that's a debate for an entirely different forum xD

                  Thank you for your informative answer..I will defiantly look into it! :D
                  Is there any place there is a list of the roms that work? (retropie wiki maybe?)
                  I tried the mame2003-midway core one time but was told the main core absorbed that hack/fix but this core is not "just midway" roms I take it..

                  People want things easy...but then complain that life is boring...

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                  • mituM
                    mitu Global Moderator @akafox
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                    @akafox said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

                    Is there any place there is a list of the roms that work? (retropie wiki maybe?)

                    The Changelog has the list of new additions. Check out the 1st post in the topic and the project's github page for more details.

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                      grant2258 Banned @mitu
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                      it was me that fixed the midway games on mame2003 and mame2003 plus they work on both cores now

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                      • mediamogulM
                        mediamogul Global Moderator @grant2258
                        last edited by mediamogul

                        @grant2258

                        And you should be commended for it. I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say thank you. Those particular titles are among the cornerstones of retro-gaming and video game history in general.

                        RetroPie v4.5 • RPi3 Model B • 5.1V 2.5A PSU • 16GB SanDisk microSD • 512GB External Drive

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                        • RiverstormR
                          Riverstorm
                          last edited by Riverstorm

                          Here's an updated list of the ROMs that are new or updated in Plus. New means they are exclusive to only Plus and updated means at least one ROM has been added, removed or modified in the set and is now different. The rest of the games are 100% identical to 2003 (roughly 4,548). I don't have a handy way to convert them back to their full names but I think it's still a useful list.

                          This list doesn't include fixes for existing ROMs but many of those changes have been merged into 2003. Also there's quite a few custom OST's that have been added that work with parent and clones which are really neat and I believe more will be add down the road.

                          @grant2258 did some work on the last custom OST that has FLAC support which allowed the samples to be reduced in size by almost 50%. I think FLAC support is a step in the right direction for modern day.

                          Also @markwkidd did some work to improve vector game support. It's not equal to AdvMAME standards but it's been much improved over 2003.

                          He also did some work on the Retropad abstraction layer challenges. So "ghosting inputs" have been cleaned up and the ability to do <NOT> mappings has been improved. So you have more input interfaces and some new retropad layouts.

                          @grant2258 did made some changes to neogeo.zip BIOS file names so you have the ability to merge multiple BIOS file versions of equal name different hashes into one neogeo.zip. Basically you have the ability to use one neogeo.zip file for both cores or possibly 3 cores like FBA too but I haven't tested 3 yet.

                          Also several minor improvements for games behind the scenes like getting into 'F2', etc. have been fixed.

                          I am sure to be missing some highlights but to be fair to 2003. It does have 2 games not supported in Plus. I can figure it out if it's important but they weren't major games if I remember.

                          Also the other day I was messing with After Burner and Outrun and I found 2003 to be smoother and I was able to pull off a barrel roll in 2003 After Burner but I couldn't do the same in Plus. I have no idea why. So basically I use 2003 as a benchmark or for contrast if something isn't working correctly in Plus.

                          Plus is a great core and if it has a favorite game or feature not supported in 2003 it's definitely worth checking out.

                          Games new to Plus (133 games):

                          1943mii.zip
                          acpsx.zip
                          airattck.zip
                          airattcka.zip
                          arescue.zip
                          asurabus.zip
                          avengrgsj.zip
                          backfire.zip
                          baryon.zip
                          bbbuster.zip
                          boogwing.zip
                          boogwinga.zip
                          brapboysj.zip
                          bsharkjjs.zip
                          bublbob1.zip
                          bublboblp.zip
                          cabala.zip
                          cabalus.zip
                          cabalus2.zip
                          candance.zip
                          ccastlej.zip
                          chainrec.zip
                          charlien.zip
                          countrb2.zip
                          crswd2bl.zip
                          cutefght.zip
                          darkmist.zip
                          dblewing.zip
                          ddream95.zip
                          deluxe5.zip
                          denjinmk.zip
                          dietgo.zip
                          dietgoe.zip
                          dietgoj.zip
                          dietgou.zip
                          dkongx.zip
                          dogosokj.zip
                          downtowj.zip
                          dreamwld.zip
                          drgnwrld.zip
                          dynagear.zip
                          esckidsj.zip
                          fixeighb.zip
                          gaialast.zip
                          ghostlop.zip
                          glasskr.zip
                          gnbarich.zip
                          gunmast.zip
                          hachamfb.zip
                          hcrash.zip
                          hcrashc.zip
                          hedpanicf.zip
                          hedpanico.zip
                          hookj.zip
                          hoops96.zip
                          hsf2a.zip
                          hvysmsh.zip
                          hvysmsha.zip
                          hvysmshj.zip
                          ikari3nr.zip
                          inyourfa.zip
                          ironclad.zip
                          joemacr.zip
                          joemacra.zip
                          kbash2.zip
                          killbld.zip
                          kof2001.zip
                          kof2002.zip
                          lasthope.zip
                          lethalen.zip
                          magdrop.zip
                          magdropp.zip
                          matrim.zip
                          mchampdx.zip
                          mchampdxa.zip
                          midresbj.zip
                          msgogo.zip
                          mslug4.zip
                          mslug5.zip
                          multchmpk.zip
                          mwarr.zip
                          nslasherj.zip
                          nslashers.zip
                          olds.zip
                          olds103t.zip
                          osman.zip
                          packbang.zip
                          pktgaldj.zip
                          pktgaldx.zip
                          plegends.zip
                          pnyaa.zip
                          progear.zip
                          progearj.zip
                          pturn.zip
                          puzlstar.zip
                          pzloop2j.zip
                          ragtime.zip
                          ragtimea.zip
                          riot.zip
                          rockn2.zip
                          rockn3.zip
                          rockn4.zip
                          rockna.zip
                          rolcrush.zip
                          rotd.zip
                          sabotnba.zip
                          samsh5sp.zip
                          samsho5.zip
                          sbishi.zip
                          sbishik.zip
                          sengoku3.zip
                          skullfng.zip
                          skullfngj.zip
                          sonicbom.zip
                          suprridr.zip
                          svcboot.zip
                          swatpolc.zip
                          tangtang.zip
                          teetert.zip
                          tgm2.zip
                          tgm2p.zip
                          thoop.zip
                          vasara2.zip
                          vasara2a.zip
                          vbowl.zip
                          vbowlj.zip
                          vmetal.zip
                          wbmlvc.zip
                          wcvol95.zip
                          wcvol95x.zip
                          wingforc.zip
                          zintrckb.zip
                          zupapa.zip
                          

                          Updated from 2003 to Plus (39 games):

                          alcon.zip
                          avengrgs.zip
                          bloodwar.zip
                          bonkadv.zip
                          brapboys.zip
                          bubbobr1.zip
                          bublbobl.zip
                          bublbobr.zip
                          cabal.zip
                          chinagat.zip
                          countrnb.zip
                          esckids.zip
                          fireshrk.zip
                          fjbuster.zip
                          gtmr.zip
                          hachamf.zip
                          hedpanic.zip
                          hydrap.zip
                          hydrap2.zip
                          jdredd.zip
                          jdreddb.zip
                          multchmp.zip
                          mustache.zip
                          nbajamex.zip
                          neogeo.zip
                          omega.zip
                          rockn.zip
                          saiyugou.zip
                          samesam2.zip
                          samesame.zip
                          shogwarr.zip
                          slapfigh.zip
                          tdragon.zip
                          titlef.zip
                          tmekprot.zip
                          vimana.zip
                          vimana1.zip
                          vimanan.zip
                          winspike.zip
                          
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                            grant2258 Banned @Riverstorm
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                            The analog problem was fixed yesterday

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                            • RiverstormR
                              Riverstorm @grant2258
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                              @grant2258 said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

                              The analog problem was fixed yesterday

                              Thanks, I just updated from source and they perform identical now.

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                                gizmobjb
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                                I can't get most of the chd games to work. Is there a trick to get them running. I have them in the arcade folder with the roms, and they are each in separate folders with names matching the rom names.

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                                • AndersHPA
                                  AndersHP
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                                  It seems Timber doesn't save hiscores?
                                  lr-mame2010 does, but lr-mame2003-plus doesn't..?

                                  My "Bubble Bobble" Themed Bartop Arcade
                                  My Gameboy

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                                  • Stuart2773S
                                    Stuart2773
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                                    @Riverstorm @markwkidd @grant2258

                                    if there any chance of a title screen/intro graphics fix on AfterBurner & Afterburner II ?

                                    0_1532698632440_aburner-180727-142418.png

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                                    i checked them in lr-mame2016 and they seem to be fixed

                                    thanks.

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                                      grant2258 Banned
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                                      what exacly is missing from the afterburner

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                                        grant2258 Banned
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                                        ost samples have been removed from the dat too many people think they are missing samples when they have the mono set.

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                                        • RiverstormR
                                          Riverstorm @gizmobjb
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                                          @gizmobjb said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

                                          I can't get most of the chd games to work. Is there a trick to get them running. I have them in the arcade folder with the roms, and they are each in separate folders with names matching the rom names.

                                          CHD's do work and you're putting them in the correct location. You might try running them through ClrMamePro with the DAT to verify you're using CHDv3. They have to be a specific version to work.

                                          @AndersHP - Maybe @grant2258 would know how to tell if a game has hiscore support. I tried it also and it doesn't save in Plus. Even looking at the current hiscore.dat I don't find a Timber entry. Maybe it's an NVRAM setting.

                                          @Stuart2773 - I am using a Pi 3 running RetroPie 4.3 and both games play the intro fully with no graphical issues.

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                                          • RiverstormR
                                            Riverstorm
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                                            @gizmobjb - It might also be worth mentioning if you're using a Pi as your platform the CHD performance is anywhere from a miss to slow motion play. The Pi just doesn't have enough oomph to make them playable really.

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