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mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support

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    johnodon
    last edited by johnodon 8 Feb 2018, 01:20 2 Aug 2018, 00:01

    Zaxxon is good to go now. Thanks for the attention! :)

    John

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      grant2258 Banned
      last edited by 2 Aug 2018, 05:27

      no problems on the fix the revolution x fix is ready to test arcadez done the patch

      please also let us know if any of the following games have problems that didnt before

      mk3
      mk3r20
      mk3r10
      umk3
      umk3r11
      wwfmania
      openice
      nbahangt
      nbamaxht
      rmpgwt
      rmpgwt11
      mk
      mkr4
      mk2
      mk2r32
      mk2r21
      mk2r14
      mk2r42
      mk2r91
      mk2chal
      jdreddp
      nbajam
      nbajamr2
      nbajamte
      nbajamt1
      nbajamt2
      nbajamt3

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        johnodon @grant2258
        last edited by 3 Aug 2018, 19:56

        I start testing these tonight and report back.

        @grant2258 said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

        no problems on the fix the revolution x fix is ready to test arcadez done the patch

        please also let us know if any of the following games have problems that didnt before

        mk3
        mk3r20
        mk3r10
        umk3
        umk3r11
        wwfmania
        openice
        nbahangt
        nbamaxht
        rmpgwt
        rmpgwt11
        mk
        mkr4
        mk2
        mk2r32
        mk2r21
        mk2r14
        mk2r42
        mk2r91
        mk2chal
        jdreddp
        nbajam
        nbajamr2
        nbajamte
        nbajamt1
        nbajamt2
        nbajamt3

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          GreenHawk84
          last edited by 5 Aug 2018, 15:42

          Is Killer Instinct playable or is it super slow?

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            darknior @GreenHawk84
            last edited by 6 Aug 2018, 15:24

            @greenhawk84 said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

            Is Killer Instinct playable or is it super slow?

            Yes same, is it possible to play it now with the last updates ?
            I read we must use the CHD files, but is there an updated ROMDAT to use the good set ?
            Thanks

            Life is game, just play it !

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              johnodon @grant2258
              last edited by johnodon 8 Jun 2018, 17:15 6 Aug 2018, 16:13

              @grant2258 said

              please also let us know if any of the following games have problems that didnt before

              Finally got around to testing these.. For the record, I didn't test sound quality...only that the rom launched and there was sound. I understand that the workaround for 'low sound' is to increase the volume in the service menu.

              0_1533571999149_d1267313-72d3-40b7-b3c5-1bac8eb71394-image.png

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                grant2258 Banned @johnodon
                last edited by grant2258 8 Jun 2018, 17:42 6 Aug 2018, 16:42

                @johnodon yes thats the usual way people do it you can also press + on your numpad it puts the ra volume up and down as well. No idea if it works on retropie should do though

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                  gizmobjb @darknior
                  last edited by 6 Aug 2018, 18:36

                  @darknior I would like to know this as well.

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                    Riverstorm
                    last edited by 6 Aug 2018, 18:42

                    @greenhawk84 said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

                    Is Killer Instinct playable or is it super slow?

                    On a Pi 3 it's like playing in slow motion but it does run fine. Not really playable due to speed though.

                    I read we must use the CHD files, but is there an updated ROMDAT to use the good set ?

                    You can download it under the metadata on the Github site here. It may be a few days old though.

                    You can also start any game, pull up the 'TAB' menu, arrow down to 'Generate XML DAT' and press 'Enter'. It will write out the most current DAT directly from code to /opt/retropie/libretrocores/lr-mame2003-plus/metadata/mame2003-plus.xml

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                      johnodon @Riverstorm
                      last edited by 6 Aug 2018, 19:18

                      @riverstorm said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

                      Also several minor improvements for games behind the scenes like getting into 'F2', etc. have been fixed.

                      Does this actually work? I thought it may have been just an 'Arcade' folder issue but I copied the same ROM to the 'mame-libretro' folder and F2 still isn't working for me when launching with lr-mame2003-plus. If I launch the same ROM with lr-mame2003 in either the folder it works as expected.

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                        Riverstorm @johnodon
                        last edited by 6 Aug 2018, 20:42

                        @johnodon said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

                        If I launch the same ROM with lr-mame2003

                        I think fixes are on a per ROM basis, not every ROM. What ROM are you trying to get into the Service menu?

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                          johnodon @Riverstorm
                          last edited by johnodon 8 Jun 2018, 23:39 6 Aug 2018, 22:19

                          @riverstorm said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

                          @johnodon said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

                          If I launch the same ROM with lr-mame2003

                          I think fixes are on a per ROM basis, not every ROM. What ROM are you trying to get into the Service menu?

                          Pretty much any of the ones listed above that require the volume to be increased. NBA Hangtime is the ones I have been trying.

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                            Riverstorm @johnodon
                            last edited by 6 Aug 2018, 22:41

                            @johnodon said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

                            NBA Hangtime is the ones I have been trying.

                            I tested nbahangt under the Arcade folder for both 2003 and Plus and I was able to pull up the service menu on both ok. I am using the older 4.3 if that's making the difference.

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                              johnodon @Riverstorm
                              last edited by 6 Aug 2018, 22:54

                              @riverstorm said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

                              @johnodon said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

                              NBA Hangtime is the ones I have been trying.

                              I tested nbahangt under the Arcade folder for both 2003 and Plus and I was able to pull up the service menu on both ok. I am using the older 4.3 if that's making the difference.

                              OK...I'm rebuilding my test box right now. I'll try again later.

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                                johnodon @Riverstorm
                                last edited by 6 Aug 2018, 23:49

                                @riverstorm said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

                                @johnodon said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

                                NBA Hangtime is the ones I have been trying.

                                I tested nbahangt under the Arcade folder for both 2003 and Plus and I was able to pull up the service menu on both ok. I am using the older 4.3 if that's making the difference.

                                Maybe I am dong something wrong...

                                On a fresh install, this is what I get when testing nbahangt:

                                Folder: mame-libretro, Core: lr-mame2003...F2 enters service menu
                                Folder: arcade, Core: lr-mame2003...F2 enters service menu
                                Folder: mame-libretro, Core: lr-mame2003-plus...F2 --> "core does not support save states"
                                Folder: arcade, Core: lr-mame2003-plus...F2 --> "core does not support saves states"

                                I'm assuming that this is a simple mapping issue but why would the mapping be different out-of-the-box for mame2003-plus vs maame2003?

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                                  grant2258 Banned @johnodon
                                  last edited by grant2258 8 Jul 2018, 11:06 6 Aug 2018, 23:52

                                  @johnodon said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

                                  @riverstorm said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

                                  @johnodon said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

                                  NBA Hangtime is the ones I have been trying.

                                  I tested nbahangt under the Arcade folder for both 2003 and Plus and I was able to pull up the service menu on both ok. I am using the older 4.3 if that's making the difference.

                                  Maybe I am dong something wrong...

                                  On a fresh install, this is what I get when testing nbahangt:

                                  Folder: mame-libretro, Core: lr-mame2003...F2 enters service menu
                                  Folder: arcade, Core: lr-mame2003...F2 enters service menu
                                  Folder: mame-libretro, Core: lr-mame2003-plus...F2 --> "core does not support save states"
                                  Folder: arcade, Core: lr-mame2003-plus...F2 --> "core does not support saves states"

                                  I'm assuming that this is a simple mapping issue but why would the mapping be different out-of-the-box for mame2003-plus vs maame2003?

                                  https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/17766/mame2003-plus-250-new-games-new-input-system-new-features-new-bugs/354

                                  if you want keyboard only choose keyboard instead of simu

                                  *sorry fixed the link was one above it

                                  if you want keyboard to controls to work like the old mame2003 you need to go to rgui->options and change input interface to simultaneous

                                  the other two methods explain themselfs

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                                    Riverstorm @johnodon
                                    last edited by 7 Aug 2018, 16:34

                                    @johnodon said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

                                    Maybe I am dong something wrong...

                                    You're trying to get to the screen shown below correct? I thought it might help to verify we are on the same page.

                                    I downloaded both 2003 and Plus from source last night and both work fine with the game in the Arcade folder to pull up the service menu. I am using 4.3, what version are you running?

                                    Also as @grant2258 pointed out above I have my 'Input Interface' set to 'Simultaneous'. Are you able to at least pull up the TAB menu?

                                    0_1533659270938_nbahangt-180806-194404.png

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                                      johnodon @Riverstorm
                                      last edited by 7 Aug 2018, 19:22

                                      @riverstorm said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

                                      @johnodon said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

                                      Maybe I am dong something wrong...

                                      You're trying to get to the screen shown below correct? I thought it might help to verify we are on the same page.

                                      I downloaded both 2003 and Plus from source last night and both work fine with the game in the Arcade folder to pull up the service menu. I am using 4.3, what version are you running?

                                      Also as @grant2258 pointed out above I have my 'Input Interface' set to 'Simultaneous'. Are you able to at least pull up the TAB menu?

                                      0_1533659270938_nbahangt-180806-194404.png

                                      That's exactly it.

                                      I am running v4.4.2

                                      For mame2003+, If I set my input to "mame keyboard" I can get to the service menu using F2. I don't have to do this for mame2003...it works out-of-the-box.

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                                        grant2258 Banned @johnodon
                                        last edited by grant2258 8 Jul 2018, 20:40 7 Aug 2018, 19:33

                                        Mame2003 had a problems with double inputs from the Kb ra inputs and mame inputs both activated when pressed.

                                        Mame 2003+ offers you an option of retropad,keyboard or the default mame2003 behavior simultaneous which has it's issues. If you don't know they are or experience them in your setup just set it to simu.

                                        Hopefully mark documents this all one day as he put a lot of work into it and the system works a lot better with ra without the need to define keys in mames tab menu thats why the menu for defining keys is off by default

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                                          johnodon @grant2258
                                          last edited by 7 Aug 2018, 20:11

                                          @grant2258 said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

                                          Mame2003 had a problems with double inputs from the Kb ra inputs and mame inputs both activated when pressed.

                                          Mame 2003+ offers you an option of retropad,keyboard or the default mame2003 behavior simultaneous which has it's issues. If you don't know they are or experience them in your setup just set it to simu.

                                          Hopefully mark documents this all one day as he put a lot of work into it and the system works a lot better with ra without the need to define keys in mames tab menu thats why the menu for defining keys is off by default

                                          That makes perfect sense! TY for the explanation grant.

                                          John

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