mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support

Riverstorm

@stuart2773 said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

the build im using is Pi 3 running RetroPie 4.4
mame 2016 shows the correct colors when playing the game unlike 2003-plus which shows a blue background on the intro screens on both afterburner & afterburner 2 instead of the black one on mame2016 & lr-fbalpha

@Stuart2773 - Here's what Arcadez had to say about the glitches in After Burner II below. He said it's possible to fix (but not confirmed) and would require significant work for little gain so it probably wouldn't happen due to the older core.

A lot of the Sega games using the System 16, 18, etc. hardware do have graphical niggles in this core. After Burner II being one of them, it's not until the MAME 88 - 91 dev cycle when there was a major graphical update that these niggles were sorted. Albeit with a performance drop for some of them.

@johnodon - I think Zaxxon should be working again.

@Darksavior - I believe Arcadez and @grant2258 are looking at Revolution X to see if a fix is possible. Arcadez posted this explaining the issue. He said the fix would be similar to the Rampage WT fix.

9th May 2007: Aaron Giles - Having recently touched all of the TMS34010-based games led me to start looking into some long-standing issues with some of the Williams/Midway Z/Y/X/Wolf-unit games. The first thing to do was to add save state support to them, because playing Revolution X more than once to get to the place where the video craps out is not for the faint of heart. This was relatively straightforward, and also had the side benefit of making some useful data available in the debugger (such as the local_videoram array and the dma_registers array). Side note: any array or pointer you register with state_save_register_global_array/_pointer automatically becomes a viewable option in a memory window in the debugger. This is very handy if you need to expose any internal state. Anyway, it turned out that the Revolution X bug was caused by over-aggressive masking in the blitter code. It was masking out one too many bits in the clipping window and this led to the right edge of the clip window being less than the left edge, effectively clipping out everything during the blit. Hence the black screen.

0.114u2: Aaron Giles fixed Revolution X gameplay/finish a level.

johnodon

@riverstorm said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

@johnodon - I think Zaxxon should be working again.

Thanks guys. I just rebuilt about an hour ago. I'll report back.

johnodon

Zaxxon is good to go now. Thanks for the attention! :)

John

grant2258

no problems on the fix the revolution x fix is ready to test arcadez done the patch

please also let us know if any of the following games have problems that didnt before

mk3
mk3r20
mk3r10
umk3
umk3r11
wwfmania
openice
nbahangt
nbamaxht
rmpgwt
rmpgwt11
mk
mkr4
mk2
mk2r32
mk2r21
mk2r14
mk2r42
mk2r91
mk2chal
jdreddp
nbajam
nbajamr2
nbajamte
nbajamt1
nbajamt2
nbajamt3

johnodon

I start testing these tonight and report back.

@grant2258 said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

no problems on the fix the revolution x fix is ready to test arcadez done the patch

please also let us know if any of the following games have problems that didnt before

mk3
mk3r20
mk3r10
umk3
umk3r11
wwfmania
openice
nbahangt
nbamaxht
rmpgwt
rmpgwt11
mk
mkr4
mk2
mk2r32
mk2r21
mk2r14
mk2r42
mk2r91
mk2chal
jdreddp
nbajam
nbajamr2
nbajamte
nbajamt1
nbajamt2
nbajamt3

GreenHawk84

Is Killer Instinct playable or is it super slow?

darknior

@greenhawk84 said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

Is Killer Instinct playable or is it super slow?

Yes same, is it possible to play it now with the last updates ?
I read we must use the CHD files, but is there an updated ROMDAT to use the good set ?
Thanks

johnodon

@grant2258 said

please also let us know if any of the following games have problems that didnt before

Finally got around to testing these.. For the record, I didn't test sound quality...only that the rom launched and there was sound. I understand that the workaround for 'low sound' is to increase the volume in the service menu.

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grant2258

@johnodon yes thats the usual way people do it you can also press + on your numpad it puts the ra volume up and down as well. No idea if it works on retropie should do though

gizmobjb

@darknior I would like to know this as well.

Riverstorm

@greenhawk84 said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

Is Killer Instinct playable or is it super slow?

On a Pi 3 it's like playing in slow motion but it does run fine. Not really playable due to speed though.

I read we must use the CHD files, but is there an updated ROMDAT to use the good set ?

You can download it under the metadata on the Github site here. It may be a few days old though.

You can also start any game, pull up the 'TAB' menu, arrow down to 'Generate XML DAT' and press 'Enter'. It will write out the most current DAT directly from code to /opt/retropie/libretrocores/lr-mame2003-plus/metadata/mame2003-plus.xml

johnodon

@riverstorm said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

Also several minor improvements for games behind the scenes like getting into 'F2', etc. have been fixed.

Does this actually work? I thought it may have been just an 'Arcade' folder issue but I copied the same ROM to the 'mame-libretro' folder and F2 still isn't working for me when launching with lr-mame2003-plus. If I launch the same ROM with lr-mame2003 in either the folder it works as expected.

Riverstorm

@johnodon said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

If I launch the same ROM with lr-mame2003

I think fixes are on a per ROM basis, not every ROM. What ROM are you trying to get into the Service menu?

johnodon

@riverstorm said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

@johnodon said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

If I launch the same ROM with lr-mame2003

I think fixes are on a per ROM basis, not every ROM. What ROM are you trying to get into the Service menu?

Pretty much any of the ones listed above that require the volume to be increased. NBA Hangtime is the ones I have been trying.

Riverstorm

@johnodon said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

NBA Hangtime is the ones I have been trying.

I tested nbahangt under the Arcade folder for both 2003 and Plus and I was able to pull up the service menu on both ok. I am using the older 4.3 if that's making the difference.

johnodon

@riverstorm said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

@johnodon said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

NBA Hangtime is the ones I have been trying.

I tested nbahangt under the Arcade folder for both 2003 and Plus and I was able to pull up the service menu on both ok. I am using the older 4.3 if that's making the difference.

OK...I'm rebuilding my test box right now. I'll try again later.

johnodon

@riverstorm said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

@johnodon said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

NBA Hangtime is the ones I have been trying.

I tested nbahangt under the Arcade folder for both 2003 and Plus and I was able to pull up the service menu on both ok. I am using the older 4.3 if that's making the difference.

Maybe I am dong something wrong...

On a fresh install, this is what I get when testing nbahangt:

Folder: mame-libretro, Core: lr-mame2003...F2 enters service menu
Folder: arcade, Core: lr-mame2003...F2 enters service menu
Folder: mame-libretro, Core: lr-mame2003-plus...F2 --> "core does not support save states"
Folder: arcade, Core: lr-mame2003-plus...F2 --> "core does not support saves states"

I'm assuming that this is a simple mapping issue but why would the mapping be different out-of-the-box for mame2003-plus vs maame2003?

grant2258

@johnodon said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

@riverstorm said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

@johnodon said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

NBA Hangtime is the ones I have been trying.

I tested nbahangt under the Arcade folder for both 2003 and Plus and I was able to pull up the service menu on both ok. I am using the older 4.3 if that's making the difference.

Maybe I am dong something wrong...

On a fresh install, this is what I get when testing nbahangt:

Folder: mame-libretro, Core: lr-mame2003...F2 enters service menu
Folder: arcade, Core: lr-mame2003...F2 enters service menu
Folder: mame-libretro, Core: lr-mame2003-plus...F2 --> "core does not support save states"
Folder: arcade, Core: lr-mame2003-plus...F2 --> "core does not support saves states"

I'm assuming that this is a simple mapping issue but why would the mapping be different out-of-the-box for mame2003-plus vs maame2003?

https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/17766/mame2003-plus-250-new-games-new-input-system-new-features-new-bugs/354

if you want keyboard only choose keyboard instead of simu

*sorry fixed the link was one above it

if you want keyboard to controls to work like the old mame2003 you need to go to rgui->options and change input interface to simultaneous

the other two methods explain themselfs

Riverstorm

@johnodon said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

Maybe I am dong something wrong...

You're trying to get to the screen shown below correct? I thought it might help to verify we are on the same page.

I downloaded both 2003 and Plus from source last night and both work fine with the game in the Arcade folder to pull up the service menu. I am using 4.3, what version are you running?

Also as @grant2258 pointed out above I have my 'Input Interface' set to 'Simultaneous'. Are you able to at least pull up the TAB menu?

johnodon

@riverstorm said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

@johnodon said in mame2003-plus: 250 new games, new input system, new features, new bugs:

Maybe I am dong something wrong...

You're trying to get to the screen shown below correct? I thought it might help to verify we are on the same page.

I downloaded both 2003 and Plus from source last night and both work fine with the game in the Arcade folder to pull up the service menu. I am using 4.3, what version are you running?

Also as @grant2258 pointed out above I have my 'Input Interface' set to 'Simultaneous'. Are you able to at least pull up the TAB menu?

That's exactly it.

I am running v4.4.2

For mame2003+, If I set my input to "mame keyboard" I can get to the service menu using F2. I don't have to do this for mame2003...it works out-of-the-box.