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    Unable to get U-HID spinner working with RetroPie image

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      msamblanet
      last edited by

      I have a U-HID board driving arcade controls for RetroPie. The buttons work fine BUT the spinner does not seem to be working. I think it is an OS level issue as I cannot get any output from /dev/input/mice from the spinner (but I can get it from other devices). Everything works fine on Windows. I've contacted the U-HID vendor but they did not have much to offer on Linux support. If I can get something more specific to go back with, I will...

      I've searched the threads here and elsewhere but not found anything that seemed quite relevant...hoping somebody may have some ideas on how to troubleshoot this further...

      Pi Model or other hardware: Pi3
      Power Supply used: Pwr+ 3.5a
      RetroPie Version Used: 4.4 (commit cda9ffcb1b3d34f08280026051f0bc0d738b6b39)
      Built From: Downloaded SD Image
      USB Devices connected: U-HID, Logitech combined Kbd/Mouse Receiver
      Controller used: U-HID generated gamepad
      Error messages received: None
      Log found in /dev/shm/runcommand.log (if relevant): N/A
      Guide used: https://retropie.org.uk/docs/Spinners,-Trackballs,-Lightguns,-and-other-Mouse-Devices/
      File: N/A
      Emulator: lr-mame2003
      Attachment of config files: Do not believe any are relevant but can provide if needed
      How to replicate the problem:

      1. Boot to SSH prompt
      2. lsusb -t` to confirm device was detected
      3. cat /dev/input/mice (also tested with individual devices)
        • Move logitech mouse and I get output
        • Move spinner and nothing happens
      4. Remove Logitech receiver and re-test (using SSH) and get same behavior
      5. Boot off random SD card with a Raspbian - logitech mouse works, spinner has no effect on mouse cursor
      6. Plug U-HID into Windows machine, spinner moves mouse cursor on X axis
      pi@retropie:~/RetroPie-Setup $ lsusb
Bus 001 Device 005: ID 046d:c52e Logitech, Inc. MK260 Wireless Combo Receiver
Bus 001 Device 004: ID d209:1501 Ultimarc
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0424:ec00 Standard Microsystems Corp. SMSC9512/9514 Fast Ethernet Adapter
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0424:9514 Standard Microsystems Corp. SMC9514 Hub
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

      pi@retropie:~/RetroPie-Setup $ lsusb -t
/:  Bus 01.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=dwc_otg/1p, 480M
    |__ Port 1: Dev 2, If 0, Class=Hub, Driver=hub/5p, 480M
        |__ Port 1: Dev 3, If 0, Class=Vendor Specific Class, Driver=smsc95xx, 480M
        |__ Port 2: Dev 4, If 0, Class=Human Interface Device, Driver=usbhid, 12M
        |__ Port 2: Dev 4, If 3, Class=Human Interface Device, Driver=usbhid, 12M
        |__ Port 2: Dev 4, If 1, Class=Human Interface Device, Driver=usbhid, 12M
        |__ Port 2: Dev 4, If 2, Class=Human Interface Device, Driver=usbhid, 12M
        |__ Port 3: Dev 5, If 0, Class=Human Interface Device, Driver=usbhid, 12M
        |__ Port 3: Dev 5, If 1, Class=Human Interface Device, Driver=usbhid, 12M

      pi@retropie:~/RetroPie-Setup $ lsusb -v

Bus 001 Device 005: ID 046d:c52e Logitech, Inc. MK260 Wireless Combo Receiver
Couldn't open device, some information will be missing
Device Descriptor:
  bLength                18
  bDescriptorType         1
  bcdUSB               2.00
  bDeviceClass            0 (Defined at Interface level)
  bDeviceSubClass         0
  bDeviceProtocol         0
  bMaxPacketSize0         8
  idVendor           0x046d Logitech, Inc.
  idProduct          0xc52e MK260 Wireless Combo Receiver
  bcdDevice           23.00
  iManufacturer           1
  iProduct                2
  iSerial                 0
  bNumConfigurations      1
  Configuration Descriptor:
    bLength                 9
    bDescriptorType         2
    wTotalLength           59
    bNumInterfaces          2
    bConfigurationValue     1
    iConfiguration          4
    bmAttributes         0xa0
      (Bus Powered)
      Remote Wakeup
    MaxPower               98mA
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength                 9
      bDescriptorType         4
      bInterfaceNumber        0
      bAlternateSetting       0
      bNumEndpoints           1
      bInterfaceClass         3 Human Interface Device
      bInterfaceSubClass      1 Boot Interface Subclass
      bInterfaceProtocol      1 Keyboard
      iInterface              0
        HID Device Descriptor:
          bLength                 9
          bDescriptorType        33
          bcdHID               1.11
          bCountryCode            0 Not supported
          bNumDescriptors         1
          bDescriptorType        34 Report
          wDescriptorLength      59
         Report Descriptors:
           ** UNAVAILABLE **
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x81  EP 1 IN
        bmAttributes            3
          Transfer Type            Interrupt
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0008  1x 8 bytes
        bInterval               8
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength                 9
      bDescriptorType         4
      bInterfaceNumber        1
      bAlternateSetting       0
      bNumEndpoints           1
      bInterfaceClass         3 Human Interface Device
      bInterfaceSubClass      1 Boot Interface Subclass
      bInterfaceProtocol      2 Mouse
      iInterface              0
        HID Device Descriptor:
          bLength                 9
          bDescriptorType        33
          bcdHID               1.11
          bCountryCode            0 Not supported
          bNumDescriptors         1
          bDescriptorType        34 Report
          wDescriptorLength     177
         Report Descriptors:
           ** UNAVAILABLE **
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x82  EP 2 IN
        bmAttributes            3
          Transfer Type            Interrupt
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0014  1x 20 bytes
        bInterval               2

Bus 001 Device 004: ID d209:1501 Ultimarc
Couldn't open device, some information will be missing
Device Descriptor:
  bLength                18
  bDescriptorType         1
  bcdUSB               2.00
  bDeviceClass            0 (Defined at Interface level)
  bDeviceSubClass         0
  bDeviceProtocol         0
  bMaxPacketSize0         8
  idVendor           0xd209 Ultimarc
  idProduct          0x1501
  bcdDevice            0.39
  iManufacturer           1
  iProduct                1
  iSerial                 5
  bNumConfigurations      1
  Configuration Descriptor:
    bLength                 9
    bDescriptorType         2
    wTotalLength          109
    bNumInterfaces          4
    bConfigurationValue     1
    iConfiguration          1
    bmAttributes         0x80
      (Bus Powered)
    MaxPower              100mA
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength                 9
      bDescriptorType         4
      bInterfaceNumber        0
      bAlternateSetting       0
      bNumEndpoints           1
      bInterfaceClass         3 Human Interface Device
      bInterfaceSubClass      0 No Subclass
      bInterfaceProtocol      0 None
      iInterface              1
        HID Device Descriptor:
          bLength                 9
          bDescriptorType        33
          bcdHID               1.11
          bCountryCode            0 Not supported
          bNumDescriptors         1
          bDescriptorType        34 Report
          wDescriptorLength      33
         Report Descriptors:
           ** UNAVAILABLE **
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x81  EP 1 IN
        bmAttributes            3
          Transfer Type            Interrupt
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0008  1x 8 bytes
        bInterval              10
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength                 9
      bDescriptorType         4
      bInterfaceNumber        1
      bAlternateSetting       0
      bNumEndpoints           1
      bInterfaceClass         3 Human Interface Device
      bInterfaceSubClass      0 No Subclass
      bInterfaceProtocol      0 None
      iInterface              3
        HID Device Descriptor:
          bLength                 9
          bDescriptorType        33
          bcdHID               1.11
          bCountryCode            0 Not supported
          bNumDescriptors         1
          bDescriptorType        34 Report
          wDescriptorLength      86
         Report Descriptors:
           ** UNAVAILABLE **
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x82  EP 2 IN
        bmAttributes            3
          Transfer Type            Interrupt
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0015  1x 21 bytes
        bInterval              10
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength                 9
      bDescriptorType         4
      bInterfaceNumber        2
      bAlternateSetting       0
      bNumEndpoints           1
      bInterfaceClass         3 Human Interface Device
      bInterfaceSubClass      1 Boot Interface Subclass
      bInterfaceProtocol      1 Keyboard
      iInterface              4
        HID Device Descriptor:
          bLength                 9
          bDescriptorType        33
          bcdHID               1.11
          bCountryCode            0 Not supported
          bNumDescriptors         1
          bDescriptorType        34 Report
          wDescriptorLength      63
         Report Descriptors:
           ** UNAVAILABLE **
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x83  EP 3 IN
        bmAttributes            3
          Transfer Type            Interrupt
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0010  1x 16 bytes
        bInterval              10
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength                 9
      bDescriptorType         4
      bInterfaceNumber        3
      bAlternateSetting       0
      bNumEndpoints           1
      bInterfaceClass         3 Human Interface Device
      bInterfaceSubClass      1 Boot Interface Subclass
      bInterfaceProtocol      2 Mouse
      iInterface              2
        HID Device Descriptor:
          bLength                 9
          bDescriptorType        33
          bcdHID               1.11
          bCountryCode            0 Not supported
          bNumDescriptors         1
          bDescriptorType        34 Report
          wDescriptorLength     112
         Report Descriptors:
           ** UNAVAILABLE **
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x84  EP 4 IN
        bmAttributes            3
          Transfer Type            Interrupt
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0008  1x 8 bytes
        bInterval              10

Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0424:ec00 Standard Microsystems Corp. SMSC9512/9514 Fast Ethernet Adapter
Couldn't open device, some information will be missing
Device Descriptor:
  bLength                18
  bDescriptorType         1
  bcdUSB               2.00
  bDeviceClass          255 Vendor Specific Class
  bDeviceSubClass         0
  bDeviceProtocol         1
  bMaxPacketSize0        64
  idVendor           0x0424 Standard Microsystems Corp.
  idProduct          0xec00 SMSC9512/9514 Fast Ethernet Adapter
  bcdDevice            2.00
  iManufacturer           0
  iProduct                0
  iSerial                 0
  bNumConfigurations      1
  Configuration Descriptor:
    bLength                 9
    bDescriptorType         2
    wTotalLength           39
    bNumInterfaces          1
    bConfigurationValue     1
    iConfiguration          0
    bmAttributes         0xe0
      Self Powered
      Remote Wakeup
    MaxPower                2mA
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength                 9
      bDescriptorType         4
      bInterfaceNumber        0
      bAlternateSetting       0
      bNumEndpoints           3
      bInterfaceClass       255 Vendor Specific Class
      bInterfaceSubClass      0
      bInterfaceProtocol    255
      iInterface              0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x81  EP 1 IN
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x02  EP 2 OUT
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x83  EP 3 IN
        bmAttributes            3
          Transfer Type            Interrupt
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0010  1x 16 bytes
        bInterval               4

Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0424:9514 Standard Microsystems Corp. SMC9514 Hub
Couldn't open device, some information will be missing
Device Descriptor:
  bLength                18
  bDescriptorType         1
  bcdUSB               2.00
  bDeviceClass            9 Hub
  bDeviceSubClass         0 Unused
  bDeviceProtocol         2 TT per port
  bMaxPacketSize0        64
  idVendor           0x0424 Standard Microsystems Corp.
  idProduct          0x9514 SMC9514 Hub
  bcdDevice            2.00
  iManufacturer           0
  iProduct                0
  iSerial                 0
  bNumConfigurations      1
  Configuration Descriptor:
    bLength                 9
    bDescriptorType         2
    wTotalLength           41
    bNumInterfaces          1
    bConfigurationValue     1
    iConfiguration          0
    bmAttributes         0xe0
      Self Powered
      Remote Wakeup
    MaxPower                2mA
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength                 9
      bDescriptorType         4
      bInterfaceNumber        0
      bAlternateSetting       0
      bNumEndpoints           1
      bInterfaceClass         9 Hub
      bInterfaceSubClass      0 Unused
      bInterfaceProtocol      1 Single TT
      iInterface              0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x81  EP 1 IN
        bmAttributes            3
          Transfer Type            Interrupt
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0001  1x 1 bytes
        bInterval              12
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength                 9
      bDescriptorType         4
      bInterfaceNumber        0
      bAlternateSetting       1
      bNumEndpoints           1
      bInterfaceClass         9 Hub
      bInterfaceSubClass      0 Unused
      bInterfaceProtocol      2 TT per port
      iInterface              0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x81  EP 1 IN
        bmAttributes            3
          Transfer Type            Interrupt
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0001  1x 1 bytes
        bInterval              12

Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Couldn't open device, some information will be missing
Device Descriptor:
  bLength                18
  bDescriptorType         1
  bcdUSB               2.00
  bDeviceClass            9 Hub
  bDeviceSubClass         0 Unused
  bDeviceProtocol         1 Single TT
  bMaxPacketSize0        64
  idVendor           0x1d6b Linux Foundation
  idProduct          0x0002 2.0 root hub
  bcdDevice            4.14
  iManufacturer           3
  iProduct                2
  iSerial                 1
  bNumConfigurations      1
  Configuration Descriptor:
    bLength                 9
    bDescriptorType         2
    wTotalLength           25
    bNumInterfaces          1
    bConfigurationValue     1
    iConfiguration          0
    bmAttributes         0xe0
      Self Powered
      Remote Wakeup
    MaxPower                0mA
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength                 9
      bDescriptorType         4
      bInterfaceNumber        0
      bAlternateSetting       0
      bNumEndpoints           1
      bInterfaceClass         9 Hub
      bInterfaceSubClass      0 Unused
      bInterfaceProtocol      0 Full speed (or root) hub
      iInterface              0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x81  EP 1 IN
        bmAttributes            3
          Transfer Type            Interrupt
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0004  1x 4 bytes
        bInterval              12
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        treaves
        last edited by

        I have an Ultimarc spinner, and had to do things to be able to use it with EmulationStation.

        • for mame, enable the mouse in the config file
        • the spinner defaults to controlling the Y-axis, I had to change it to the X-axis.

        I'm not sure this is your issue, as I did have output from cat /dev/input/mice . But you could check.

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          msamblanet @treaves
          last edited by

          @treaves - Thanks for the info - I’ll check but suspect this is not the issue. Which controller are you using with your spinner? The newer ones come with the u-hid nano but ultimarc had other controllers in the past...

          My other next step is to dig through some boxes and find an older spinner controller and see if it works (although I want the u-hid to work as it is a nice small device for everything)...

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            treaves
            last edited by

            I'm using an iPac Ultimate IO.

            Good luck.

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              msamblanet @treaves
              last edited by

              @treaves Thanks for the info.

              I've mapped a couple buttons to mouse-left-click and mouse-right-click for testing and they work correctly but the cursor won't move when I boot to a flash card with X on it (figure I'd try to ensure it's not RetroPie configuration issues).

              I guess it's down into the deep dark world of the Linux drivers...

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                msamblanet @msamblanet
                last edited by

                So I recorded the event stream from the U-HID using evemu and compared it to the event stream from a working Logitech mouse...the two report a different event. The Logitech reports EV_REL / REL_X (relative motion on X) whereas the U-HID reports EV_REL / REL_RX (relative motion on rotational X axis). When I edit the REL_RX to REL_X and replay the stream it works...

                I've emailed U-HID on the matter and will see what they say. If anybody has any idea if there is a way to get Linux to pickup the RX axis, please let me know...

                evemu exerpt: Working Logitech

                E: 0.000001 0002 0000 0010      # EV_REL / REL_X                10
E: 0.000001 0002 0001 0004      # EV_REL / REL_Y                4
E: 0.000001 0000 0000 0000      # ------------ SYN_REPORT (0) ---------- +0ms
E: 0.016037 0002 0000 0023      # EV_REL / REL_X                23
E: 0.016037 0002 0001 0003      # EV_REL / REL_Y                3
E: 0.016037 0000 0000 0000      # ------------ SYN_REPORT (0) ---------- +16ms
E: 0.032008 0002 0000 0012      # EV_REL / REL_X                12
E: 0.032008 0000 0000 0000      # ------------ SYN_REPORT (0) ---------- +16ms
E: 0.047952 0002 0000 0022      # EV_REL / REL_X                22
E: 0.047952 0002 0001 -002      # EV_REL / REL_Y                -2

                evemu exerpt: Not-Working U-HID

                E: 0.000001 0002 0003 0001      # EV_REL / REL_RX               1
E: 0.000001 0000 0000 0000      # ------------ SYN_REPORT (0) ---------- +0ms
E: 0.015999 0002 0003 0001      # EV_REL / REL_RX               1
E: 0.015999 0000 0000 0000      # ------------ SYN_REPORT (0) ---------- +15ms
E: 0.031984 0002 0003 0003      # EV_REL / REL_RX               3
E: 0.031984 0000 0000 0000      # ------------ SYN_REPORT (0) ---------- +16ms
E: 0.047986 0002 0003 0010      # EV_REL / REL_RX               10
E: 0.047986 0000 0000 0000      # ------------ SYN_REPORT (0) ---------- +16ms
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                  arcades @msamblanet
                  last edited by

                  @msamblanet wondering if you heard back from the u-hid vendor? Or found a workaround? As I too am faced with the same issue with my driving cab spinner and u-hid device.

                  Cheers!

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                    arcades @arcades
                    last edited by

                    I was able to reach out to U-HID support and confirm that that spinners are not being recognized as mouse devices in Linux, there for this feature on the U-HID device is not available to use in retropie :(

                    All functionality works as expected on Windows platform.

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                      tsl
                      last edited by

                      Hello, @msamblanet and @arcades - FYI- I've been battling for a couple of days on this issue until I found that I have the issue described here if the spinner is connected to J5 pins (the trackball has its own USB connection).

                      However, if I move this to J4 pins (J4 and J5 are the only two pin groups supporting quadrature), it just works - no questions asked...

                      Hope this information might be useful to you and someone else with the same setup!

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                        francis2019 @treaves
                        last edited by

                        @treaves Hello where do you go t swich the spinner defaults controling Y-axis to X-axis. Thanks

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