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    What the heck's happened to AdvMESS?

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      SpudsMcToole Banned @mediamogul
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      @mediamogul Nope, that made no difference, still slow as hell.

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        SpudsMcToole Banned @SpudsMcToole
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        @SpudsMcToole said in What the heck's happened to AdvMESS?:

        Oh, and another superweird thing: if I run the Adventurevision, the runcommand menu on ALL EMULATORS (not just AdvMESS ones) gets blown up double size and won't go back to normal unless I do a full system reboot.

        I've narrowed this problem down, at least - if I delete these lines from the ADVMESS.RC:

        display_restore no
        display_rgbeffect none
        display_rol no
        display_ror no
        display_scanlines no
        display_skipcolumns auto
        display_skiplines auto
        display_translucency no
        display_vsync yes
        

        ...it stops happening, and the Adventurevision display is also a lot brighter, whereas with those lines in half of it is very dark and almost invisible. I have no idea WHY those lines cause either of those problems (I'm guessing display_restore might be something to do with runcommand being screwed for every emulator after running Adventurevision, but then again it's present in every other ADVMESS.RC I have and it doesn't do it with those), but dumping them fixes both, so yay.

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          mediamogul Global Moderator @SpudsMcToole
          last edited by

          @SpudsMcToole said in What the heck's happened to AdvMESS?:

          (I'm guessing display_restore might be something to do with runcommand being screwed for every emulator after running Adventurevision, but then again it's present in every other ADVMESS.RC I have and it doesn't do it with those)

          Very strange that this only affects Adventurevision. Nice to see that you got it sorted though.

          RetroPie v4.5 • RPi3 Model B • 5.1V 2.5A PSU • 16GB SanDisk microSD • 512GB External Drive

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            SpudsMcToole Banned @mediamogul
            last edited by SpudsMcToole

            @mediamogul Doesn't get me anywhere with this awful slowdown bug, though. I've lost two of my favourite systems to it (BBC and VIC-20), and I've been going through the .RC systematically deleting lines that could possibly be the cause and nothing's helping :(

            (I'm on AdvMESS 3.9 and the latest Retropie script, 4.4.4.)

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              mediamogul Global Moderator @SpudsMcToole
              last edited by mediamogul

              @SpudsMcToole

              Are all the MESS systems experiencing slowdown? If not, have you tried swapping out an .rc file from a system not experiencing the issue. If the problem disappears, you can compare the two for possible differences.

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                SpudsMcToole Banned @mediamogul
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                @mediamogul Everything except the Adventurevision, yes. I've been trying switching various sections of code between the RC files, but nothing's fixed it yet and it doesn't help that so much of it is incomprehensible.

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                  SpudsMcToole Banned @SpudsMcToole
                  last edited by mediamogul

                  Okay, further narrowing down has been achieved - it appears to be something in one of these lines that's mucking everything up:

                  device_video_cursor auto
                  device_video_doublescan yes
                  device_video_fastchange yes
                  device_video_interlace no
                  device_video_output overlay
                  device_video_overlaysize 0
                  device_video_singlescan no
                  device_video_clock 10 - 150 / 30.5 - 60 / 55 - 130
                  
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                    SpudsMcToole Banned @SpudsMcToole
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                    Christ, this is mad. I've got the BBC Micro all working again, but the same solution didn't work for the Astrocade, which I've got working by deleting different lines, and I can't fix the Arcadia without totally b0rking all the game controls. I've no idea what's going on tbh.

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                      mediamogul Global Moderator @SpudsMcToole
                      last edited by mediamogul

                      @SpudsMcToole

                      Rather than deleting previous settings, there might actually be new ones not currently in your file that could help matters. You might consider starting with a fresh advancemess.rc file generated specifically from the newest version to see how it behaves.

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                        SpudsMcToole Banned @mediamogul
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                        @mediamogul That's how I got Adventurevision working in the first place. But I can't do that with (say) the BBC, there are literally hours and hours of work in the existing config, setting up controls for each game and generic controls, boot sequences etc.

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                          A Former User @SpudsMcToole
                          last edited by

                          @SpudsMcToole I was having the same issues last week. Somehow I ended up with an advmess.rc with lots of duplicate entries. I ended up regenerating it from scratch and then I no longer had errors or the bit depth early exit.

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                            mediamogul Global Moderator @SpudsMcToole
                            last edited by mediamogul

                            @SpudsMcToole

                            For the sake of comparison, I'll post my .rc files for the Bally Astrocade and Fairchild Channel F. I just tested both under 3.9 and neither needed any modification.

                            Bally Astrocade

                            debug_crash no
                            debug_rawsound no
                            debug_speedmark no
                            device_alsa_device default
                            device_alsa_mixer channel
                            device_color_bgr15 yes
                            device_color_bgr16 yes
                            device_color_bgr24 yes
                            device_color_bgr32 yes
                            device_color_bgr8 yes
                            device_color_palette8 yes
                            device_color_yuy2 yes
                            device_dpi_pclock_low 31250000
                            device_hdmi_pclock_low 0
                            device_joystick auto
                            device_keyboard raw
                            device_mouse auto
                            device_raw_firstkeyhack no
                            device_raw_mousedev[0] auto
                            device_raw_mousedev[1] auto
                            device_raw_mousedev[2] auto
                            device_raw_mousedev[3] auto
                            device_raw_mousetype[0] pnp
                            device_raw_mousetype[1] pnp
                            device_raw_mousetype[2] pnp
                            device_raw_mousetype[3] pnp
                            device_sdl_samples 512
                            device_sound auto
                            device_video auto
                            device_video_cursor auto
                            device_video_doublescan yes
                            device_video_fastchange no
                            device_video_interlace yes
                            device_video_output auto
                            device_video_overlaysize auto
                            device_video_singlescan yes
                            dir_artwork /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame-advmame/advmess/artwork
                            dir_crc /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame-advmame/advmess/crc
                            dir_diff /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame-advmame/advmess/diff
                            dir_hi /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame-advmame/advmess/hi
                            dir_image /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame-advmame/advmess/image
                            dir_inp /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame-advmame/advmess/inp
                            dir_memcard /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame-advmame/advmess/memcard
                            dir_nvram /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame-advmame/advmess/nvram
                            dir_rom /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame-advmame/advmess/rom
                            dir_sample /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame-advmame/advmess/sample
                            dir_snap /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame-advmame/advmess/snap
                            dir_sta /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame-advmame/advmess/sta
                            display_adjust none
                            display_antialias yes
                            display_artwork_backdrop yes
                            display_artwork_bezel no
                            display_artwork_crop yes
                            display_artwork_overlay yes
                            display_aspect auto
                            display_beam 1
                            display_brightness 1
                            display_buffer no
                            display_color auto
                            display_expand 1.0
                            display_flicker 0
                            display_flipx no
                            display_flipy no
                            display_frameskip auto
                            display_gamma 1
                            display_intensity 1.5
                            display_interlaceeffect none
                            display_magnify auto
                            display_magnifysize 640
                            display_mode auto
                            display_pausebrightness 1
                            display_resize integer
                            display_resizeeffect none
                            display_restore yes
                            display_rgbeffect none
                            display_rol no
                            display_ror no
                            display_scanlines no
                            display_skipcolumns auto
                            display_skiplines auto
                            display_translucency yes
                            display_vsync yes
                            include 
                            input_hotkey yes
                            input_idleexit 0
                            input_map[event10] auto
                            input_map[event11] auto
                            input_map[event12] auto
                            input_map[event13] auto
                            input_map[event14] auto
                            input_map[event1] auto
                            input_map[event2] auto
                            input_map[event3] auto
                            input_map[event4] auto
                            input_map[event5] auto
                            input_map[event6] auto
                            input_map[event7] auto
                            input_map[event8] auto
                            input_map[event9] auto
                            input_map[key_0] auto
                            input_map[key_1] auto
                            input_map[key_2] auto
                            input_map[key_3] auto
                            input_map[key_4] auto
                            input_map[key_5] auto
                            input_map[key_6] auto
                            input_map[key_7] auto
                            input_map[key_8] auto
                            input_map[key_9] auto
                            input_map[key_a] auto
                            input_map[key_again] auto
                            input_map[key_alt] auto
                            input_map[key_asterisk] auto
                            input_map[key_b] auto
                            input_map[key_back] auto
                            input_map[key_backquote] auto
                            input_map[key_backslash] auto
                            input_map[key_backspace] auto
                            input_map[key_break] auto
                            input_map[key_c] auto
                            input_map[key_capslock] auto
                            input_map[key_closebrace] auto
                            input_map[key_colon] auto
                            input_map[key_comma] auto
                            input_map[key_copy] auto
                            input_map[key_ctrl] auto
                            input_map[key_cut] auto
                            input_map[key_d] auto
                            input_map[key_del] auto
                            input_map[key_diesis] auto
                            input_map[key_doublequote] auto
                            input_map[key_down] auto
                            input_map[key_e] auto
                            input_map[key_edit] auto
                            input_map[key_end] auto
                            input_map[key_enter] auto
                            input_map[key_equals] auto
                            input_map[key_esc] auto
                            input_map[key_f10] auto
                            input_map[key_f11] auto
                            input_map[key_f12] auto
                            input_map[key_f13] auto
                            input_map[key_f14] auto
                            input_map[key_f15] auto
                            input_map[key_f16] auto
                            input_map[key_f17] auto
                            input_map[key_f18] auto
                            input_map[key_f19] auto
                            input_map[key_f1] auto
                            input_map[key_f20] auto
                            input_map[key_f21] auto
                            input_map[key_f22] auto
                            input_map[key_f23] auto
                            input_map[key_f24] auto
                            input_map[key_f2] auto
                            input_map[key_f3] auto
                            input_map[key_f4] auto
                            input_map[key_f5] auto
                            input_map[key_f6] auto
                            input_map[key_f7] auto
                            input_map[key_f8] auto
                            input_map[key_f9] auto
                            input_map[key_f] auto
                            input_map[key_fctn] auto
                            input_map[key_find] auto
                            input_map[key_forward] auto
                            input_map[key_g] auto
                            input_map[key_graph] auto
                            input_map[key_h] auto
                            input_map[key_help] auto
                            input_map[key_hold] auto
                            input_map[key_home] auto
                            input_map[key_i] auto
                            input_map[key_ins] auto
                            input_map[key_j] auto
                            input_map[key_k] auto
                            input_map[key_l] auto
                            input_map[key_lalt] auto
                            input_map[key_lctrl] auto
                            input_map[key_left] auto
                            input_map[key_less] auto
                            input_map[key_lshift] auto
                            input_map[key_m] auto
                            input_map[key_menu] auto
                            input_map[key_minus] auto
                            input_map[key_move] auto
                            input_map[key_n] auto
                            input_map[key_numlock] auto
                            input_map[key_o] auto
                            input_map[key_open] auto
                            input_map[key_openbrace] auto
                            input_map[key_p] auto
                            input_map[key_pad_0] auto
                            input_map[key_pad_1] auto
                            input_map[key_pad_2] auto
                            input_map[key_pad_3] auto
                            input_map[key_pad_4] auto
                            input_map[key_pad_5] auto
                            input_map[key_pad_6] auto
                            input_map[key_pad_7] auto
                            input_map[key_pad_8] auto
                            input_map[key_pad_9] auto
                            input_map[key_pad_asterisk] auto
                            input_map[key_pad_colon] auto
                            input_map[key_pad_diesis] auto
                            input_map[key_pad_enter] auto
                            input_map[key_pad_minus] auto
                            input_map[key_pad_plus] auto
                            input_map[key_pad_slash] auto
                            input_map[key_paste] auto
                            input_map[key_pause] auto
                            input_map[key_period] auto
                            input_map[key_pgdn] auto
                            input_map[key_pgup] auto
                            input_map[key_play] auto
                            input_map[key_plus] auto
                            input_map[key_pound] auto
                            input_map[key_print] auto
                            input_map[key_q] auto
                            input_map[key_quickload] auto
                            input_map[key_quote] auto
                            input_map[key_r] auto
                            input_map[key_ralt] auto
                            input_map[key_rctrl] auto
                            input_map[key_record] auto
                            input_map[key_restore] auto
                            input_map[key_rew] auto
                            input_map[key_right] auto
                            input_map[key_rshift] auto
                            input_map[key_s] auto
                            input_map[key_scrlock] auto
                            input_map[key_semicolon] auto
                            input_map[key_shift] auto
                            input_map[key_slash] auto
                            input_map[key_space] auto
                            input_map[key_stop] auto
                            input_map[key_store] auto
                            input_map[key_t] auto
                            input_map[key_tab] auto
                            input_map[key_u] auto
                            input_map[key_undo] auto
                            input_map[key_up] auto
                            input_map[key_v] auto
                            input_map[key_w] auto
                            input_map[key_x] auto
                            input_map[key_y] auto
                            input_map[key_z] auto
                            input_map[p1_dialx] auto
                            input_map[p1_dialy] auto
                            input_map[p1_lightgunx] auto
                            input_map[p1_lightguny] auto
                            input_map[p1_mousex] auto
                            input_map[p1_mousey] auto
                            input_map[p1_paddlex] mouse[0,x] mouse[1,x] mouse[2,x]
                            input_map[p1_paddley] mouse[0,x] mouse[1,x] mouse[2,x]
                            input_map[p1_pedalbrake] auto
                            input_map[p1_pedalgas] auto
                            input_map[p1_pedalother] auto
                            input_map[p1_stickx] auto
                            input_map[p1_sticky] auto
                            input_map[p1_stickz] auto
                            input_map[p1_trackballx] auto
                            input_map[p1_trackbally] auto
                            input_map[p2_dialx] auto
                            input_map[p2_dialy] auto
                            input_map[p2_lightgunx] auto
                            input_map[p2_lightguny] auto
                            input_map[p2_mousex] auto
                            input_map[p2_mousey] auto
                            input_map[p2_paddlex] mouse[0,y] mouse[1,y] mouse[2,y]
                            input_map[p2_paddley] mouse[0,y] mouse[1,y] mouse[2,y]
                            input_map[p2_pedalbrake] auto
                            input_map[p2_pedalgas] auto
                            input_map[p2_pedalother] auto
                            input_map[p2_stickx] auto
                            input_map[p2_sticky] auto
                            input_map[p2_stickz] auto
                            input_map[p2_trackballx] auto
                            input_map[p2_trackbally] auto
                            input_map[p3_dialx] auto
                            input_map[p3_dialy] auto
                            input_map[p3_lightgunx] auto
                            input_map[p3_lightguny] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_a] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_b] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_bet] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_c] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_chance] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_chi] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_d] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_double_up] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_e] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_f] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_flip_flop] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_g] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_h] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_i] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_j] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_k] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_kan] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_l] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_m] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_n] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_pon] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_reach] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_ron] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_score] auto
                            input_map[p3_mousex] auto
                            input_map[p3_mousey] auto
                            input_map[p3_paddlex] auto
                            input_map[p3_paddley] auto
                            input_map[p3_pedalbrake] auto
                            input_map[p3_pedalgas] auto
                            input_map[p3_pedalother] auto
                            input_map[p3_stickx] auto
                            input_map[p3_sticky] auto
                            input_map[p3_stickz] auto
                            input_map[p3_trackballx] auto
                            input_map[p3_trackbally] auto
                            input_map[p4_dialx] auto
                            input_map[p4_dialy] auto
                            input_map[p4_lightgunx] auto
                            input_map[p4_lightguny] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_a] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_b] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_bet] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_c] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_chance] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_chi] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_d] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_double_up] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_e] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_f] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_flip_flop] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_g] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_h] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_i] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_j] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_k] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_kan] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_l] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_m] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_n] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_pon] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_reach] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_ron] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_score] auto
                            input_map[p4_mousex] auto
                            input_map[p4_mousey] auto
                            input_map[p4_paddlex] auto
                            input_map[p4_paddley] auto
                            input_map[p4_pedalbrake] auto
                            input_map[p4_pedalgas] auto
                            input_map[p4_pedalother] auto
                            input_map[p4_stickx] auto
                            input_map[p4_sticky] auto
                            input_map[p4_stickz] auto
                            input_map[p4_trackballx] auto
                            input_map[p4_trackbally] auto
                            input_map[safequit] auto
                            input_map[service_coin5] auto
                            input_map[service_coin6] auto
                            input_map[service_coin7] auto
                            input_map[service_coin8] auto
                            input_steadykey no
                            lcd_server none
                            lcd_speed 4
                            lcd_timeout 500
                            misc_bios default
                            misc_cheat no
                            misc_cheatfile /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame-advmame/advmess/misc/cheat.dat
                            misc_difficulty none
                            misc_eventdebug no
                            misc_eventfile /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame-advmame/advmess/misc/event.dat
                            misc_freeplay no
                            misc_hiscorefile /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame-advmame/advmess/misc/hiscore.dat
                            misc_lang none
                            misc_languagefile /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame-advmame/advmess/misc/english.lng
                            misc_mutedemo no
                            misc_quiet yes
                            misc_ramsize auto
                            misc_safequit no
                            misc_smp yes
                            misc_timetorun 0
                            record_sound yes
                            record_sound_time 15
                            record_video yes
                            record_video_interleave 2
                            record_video_time 15
                            script_coin1 
                            script_coin2 
                            script_coin3 
                            script_coin4 
                            script_emulation 
                            script_event1 
                            script_event10 
                            script_event11 
                            script_event12 
                            script_event13 
                            script_event14 
                            script_event2 
                            script_event3 
                            script_event4 
                            script_event5 
                            script_event6 
                            script_event7 
                            script_event8 
                            script_event9 
                            script_knocker on(kdb, 0b100); wait(!event()); off(kdb, 0b100);
                            script_led1 on(kdb, 0b1); wait(!event()); off(kdb, 0b1);
                            script_led2 on(kdb, 0b10); wait(!event()); off(kdb, 0b10);
                            script_led3 
                            script_play 
                            script_safequit 
                            script_start1 
                            script_start2 
                            script_start3 
                            script_start4 
                            script_turbo while (event()) { toggle(kdb, 0b100); delay(100); } off(kdb, 0b100);
                            script_video wait(!event()); set(kdb, 0);
                            sound_adjust auto
                            sound_equalizer_highvolume 0
                            sound_equalizer_lowvolume 0
                            sound_equalizer_midvolume 0
                            sound_latency 0.05
                            sound_mode auto
                            sound_normalize yes
                            sound_samplerate 44100
                            sound_samples yes
                            sound_volume -3
                            sync_fps auto
                            sync_resample auto
                            sync_speed 1
                            sync_startuptime auto
                            sync_turbospeed 3
                            ui_color[help_other] 000000 808080
                            ui_color[help_p1] 000000 ffff00
                            ui_color[help_p2] 000000 00ff00
                            ui_color[help_p3] 000000 ff0000
                            ui_color[help_p4] 000000 00ffff
                            ui_color[interface] 000000 ffffff
                            ui_color[select] 000000 afffff
                            ui_color[tag] 247ef0 ffffff
                            ui_font auto
                            ui_fontsize auto
                            ui_helpimage auto
                            ui_translucency 0.8
                            input_map[ui_pause] keyboard[0,w] keyboard[0,a]
                            input_map[ui_reset_machine] keyboard[0,w] keyboard[0,b]
                            input_map[ui_snapshot] keyboard[0,w] keyboard[0,y]
                            input_map[ui_save_state] keyboard[0,w] keyboard[0,q]
                            input_map[ui_load_state] keyboard[0,w] keyboard[0,l]
                            input_map[ui_configure] keyboard[0,tab] or keyboard[0,w] keyboard[0,x]
                            input_map[ui_up] keyboard[0,up]
                            input_map[ui_down] keyboard[0,down]
                            input_map[ui_left] keyboard[0,left]
                            input_map[ui_right] keyboard[0,right]
                            input_map[ui_select] keyboard[0,enter] or keyboard[0,a]
                            input_map[ui_cancel] keyboard[0,esc] or keyboard[0,w] keyboard[0,t]
                            input_map[p1_up] keyboard[0,up]
                            input_map[p1_down] keyboard[0,down]
                            input_map[p1_left] keyboard[0,left]
                            input_map[p1_right] keyboard[0,right]
                            input_map[p1_doubleright_up] 
                            input_map[p1_doubleright_down] 
                            input_map[p1_doubleright_left] 
                            input_map[p1_doubleright_right] 
                            input_map[p1_doubleleft_up] 
                            input_map[p1_doubleleft_down] 
                            input_map[p1_doubleleft_left] 
                            input_map[p1_doubleleft_right] 
                            input_map[p1_button1] keyboard[0,b]
                            input_map[p1_button2] 
                            input_map[p1_button3] 
                            input_map[p1_button4] 
                            input_map[p1_button5] 
                            input_map[p1_button6] 
                            input_map[p1_button7] 
                            input_map[p1_button8] 
                            input_map[p1_button9] 
                            input_map[p1_button10] 
                            input_map[p1_start] 
                            input_map[p1_select] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_a] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_b] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_c] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_d] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_e] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_f] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_g] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_h] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_i] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_j] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_k] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_l] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_m] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_n] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_kan] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_pon] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_chi] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_reach] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_ron] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_bet] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_chance] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_score] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_double_up] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_flip_flop] 
                            input_map[p2_up] keyboard[0,3_pad]
                            input_map[p2_down] keyboard[0,4_pad]
                            input_map[p2_left] keyboard[0,1_pad]
                            input_map[p2_right] keyboard[0,2_pad]
                            input_map[p2_button1] keyboard[0,6_pad]
                            input_map[p2_button2] 
                            input_map[p2_button3] 
                            input_map[p2_button4] 
                            input_map[p2_button5] 
                            input_map[p2_button6] 
                            input_map[p2_button7] 
                            input_map[p2_button8] 
                            input_map[p2_button9] 
                            input_map[p2_button10] 
                            input_map[p2_start] 
                            input_map[p2_select] 
                            astrocde/input_setting[p1_paddlex] keydelta:20,centerdelta:20,sensitivity:20,reverse:1
                            astrocde/input_setting[p2_paddlex] keydelta:20,centerdelta:20,sensitivity:20,reverse:0
                            astrocde[home_pi_retropie_roms_astrocade_bally_pinball]/input_map[p1_button1] keyboard[0,l]
                            astrocde[home_pi_retropie_roms_astrocade_bally_pinball]/input_map[p2_button1] keyboard[0,q]
                            astrocde[home_pi_retropie_roms_astrocade_bally_pinball]/input_map[p2_down] keyboard[0,b]
                            
                            

                            Fairchild Channel F

                            debug_crash no
                            debug_rawsound no
                            debug_speedmark no
                            device_alsa_device default
                            device_alsa_mixer channel
                            device_color_bgr15 yes
                            device_color_bgr16 yes
                            device_color_bgr24 yes
                            device_color_bgr32 yes
                            device_color_bgr8 yes
                            device_color_palette8 yes
                            device_color_yuy2 yes
                            device_dpi_pclock_low 31250000
                            device_hdmi_pclock_low 0
                            device_joystick auto
                            device_keyboard raw
                            device_mouse auto
                            device_raw_firstkeyhack no
                            device_raw_mousedev[0] auto
                            device_raw_mousedev[1] auto
                            device_raw_mousedev[2] auto
                            device_raw_mousedev[3] auto
                            device_raw_mousetype[0] pnp
                            device_raw_mousetype[1] pnp
                            device_raw_mousetype[2] pnp
                            device_raw_mousetype[3] pnp
                            device_sdl_samples 512
                            device_sound auto
                            device_video auto
                            device_video_cursor auto
                            device_video_doublescan yes
                            device_video_fastchange no
                            device_video_interlace yes
                            device_video_output auto
                            device_video_overlaysize auto
                            device_video_singlescan yes
                            dir_artwork /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame-advmame/advmess/artwork
                            dir_crc /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame-advmame/advmess/crc
                            dir_diff /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame-advmame/advmess/diff
                            dir_hi /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame-advmame/advmess/hi
                            dir_image /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame-advmame/advmess/image
                            dir_inp /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame-advmame/advmess/inp
                            dir_memcard /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame-advmame/advmess/memcard
                            dir_nvram /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame-advmame/advmess/nvram
                            dir_rom /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame-advmame/advmess/rom
                            dir_sample /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame-advmame/advmess/sample
                            dir_snap /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame-advmame/advmess/snap
                            dir_sta /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame-advmame/advmess/sta
                            display_adjust none
                            display_antialias yes
                            display_artwork_backdrop yes
                            display_artwork_bezel no
                            display_artwork_crop yes
                            display_artwork_overlay yes
                            display_aspect auto
                            display_beam 1
                            display_brightness 1
                            display_buffer no
                            display_color auto
                            display_expand 1.0
                            display_flicker 0
                            display_flipx no
                            display_flipy no
                            display_frameskip auto
                            display_gamma 1
                            display_intensity 1.5
                            display_interlaceeffect none
                            display_magnify auto
                            display_magnifysize 640
                            display_mode auto
                            display_pausebrightness 1
                            display_resize integer
                            display_resizeeffect none
                            display_restore yes
                            display_rgbeffect none
                            display_rol no
                            display_ror no
                            display_scanlines no
                            display_skipcolumns auto
                            display_skiplines auto
                            display_translucency yes
                            display_vsync yes
                            include 
                            input_hotkey yes
                            input_idleexit 0
                            input_map[event10] auto
                            input_map[event11] auto
                            input_map[event12] auto
                            input_map[event13] auto
                            input_map[event14] auto
                            input_map[event1] auto
                            input_map[event2] auto
                            input_map[event3] auto
                            input_map[event4] auto
                            input_map[event5] auto
                            input_map[event6] auto
                            input_map[event7] auto
                            input_map[event8] auto
                            input_map[event9] auto
                            input_map[key_0] auto
                            input_map[key_1] auto
                            input_map[key_2] auto
                            input_map[key_3] auto
                            input_map[key_4] auto
                            input_map[key_5] auto
                            input_map[key_6] auto
                            input_map[key_7] auto
                            input_map[key_8] auto
                            input_map[key_9] auto
                            input_map[key_a] auto
                            input_map[key_again] auto
                            input_map[key_alt] auto
                            input_map[key_asterisk] auto
                            input_map[key_b] auto
                            input_map[key_back] auto
                            input_map[key_backquote] auto
                            input_map[key_backslash] auto
                            input_map[key_backspace] auto
                            input_map[key_break] auto
                            input_map[key_c] auto
                            input_map[key_capslock] auto
                            input_map[key_closebrace] auto
                            input_map[key_colon] auto
                            input_map[key_comma] auto
                            input_map[key_copy] auto
                            input_map[key_ctrl] auto
                            input_map[key_cut] auto
                            input_map[key_d] auto
                            input_map[key_del] auto
                            input_map[key_diesis] auto
                            input_map[key_doublequote] auto
                            input_map[key_down] auto
                            input_map[key_e] auto
                            input_map[key_edit] auto
                            input_map[key_end] auto
                            input_map[key_enter] auto
                            input_map[key_equals] auto
                            input_map[key_esc] auto
                            input_map[key_f10] auto
                            input_map[key_f11] auto
                            input_map[key_f12] auto
                            input_map[key_f13] auto
                            input_map[key_f14] auto
                            input_map[key_f15] auto
                            input_map[key_f16] auto
                            input_map[key_f17] auto
                            input_map[key_f18] auto
                            input_map[key_f19] auto
                            input_map[key_f1] auto
                            input_map[key_f20] auto
                            input_map[key_f21] auto
                            input_map[key_f22] auto
                            input_map[key_f23] auto
                            input_map[key_f24] auto
                            input_map[key_f2] auto
                            input_map[key_f3] auto
                            input_map[key_f4] auto
                            input_map[key_f5] auto
                            input_map[key_f6] auto
                            input_map[key_f7] auto
                            input_map[key_f8] auto
                            input_map[key_f9] auto
                            input_map[key_f] auto
                            input_map[key_fctn] auto
                            input_map[key_find] auto
                            input_map[key_forward] auto
                            input_map[key_g] auto
                            input_map[key_graph] auto
                            input_map[key_h] auto
                            input_map[key_help] auto
                            input_map[key_hold] auto
                            input_map[key_home] auto
                            input_map[key_i] auto
                            input_map[key_ins] auto
                            input_map[key_j] auto
                            input_map[key_k] auto
                            input_map[key_l] auto
                            input_map[key_lalt] auto
                            input_map[key_lctrl] auto
                            input_map[key_left] auto
                            input_map[key_less] auto
                            input_map[key_lshift] auto
                            input_map[key_m] auto
                            input_map[key_menu] auto
                            input_map[key_minus] auto
                            input_map[key_move] auto
                            input_map[key_n] auto
                            input_map[key_numlock] auto
                            input_map[key_o] auto
                            input_map[key_open] auto
                            input_map[key_openbrace] auto
                            input_map[key_p] auto
                            input_map[key_pad_0] auto
                            input_map[key_pad_1] auto
                            input_map[key_pad_2] auto
                            input_map[key_pad_3] auto
                            input_map[key_pad_4] auto
                            input_map[key_pad_5] auto
                            input_map[key_pad_6] auto
                            input_map[key_pad_7] auto
                            input_map[key_pad_8] auto
                            input_map[key_pad_9] auto
                            input_map[key_pad_asterisk] auto
                            input_map[key_pad_colon] auto
                            input_map[key_pad_diesis] auto
                            input_map[key_pad_enter] auto
                            input_map[key_pad_minus] auto
                            input_map[key_pad_plus] auto
                            input_map[key_pad_slash] auto
                            input_map[key_paste] auto
                            input_map[key_pause] auto
                            input_map[key_period] auto
                            input_map[key_pgdn] auto
                            input_map[key_pgup] auto
                            input_map[key_play] auto
                            input_map[key_plus] auto
                            input_map[key_pound] auto
                            input_map[key_print] auto
                            input_map[key_q] auto
                            input_map[key_quickload] auto
                            input_map[key_quote] auto
                            input_map[key_r] auto
                            input_map[key_ralt] auto
                            input_map[key_rctrl] auto
                            input_map[key_record] auto
                            input_map[key_restore] auto
                            input_map[key_rew] auto
                            input_map[key_right] auto
                            input_map[key_rshift] auto
                            input_map[key_s] auto
                            input_map[key_scrlock] auto
                            input_map[key_semicolon] auto
                            input_map[key_shift] auto
                            input_map[key_slash] auto
                            input_map[key_space] auto
                            input_map[key_stop] auto
                            input_map[key_store] auto
                            input_map[key_t] auto
                            input_map[key_tab] auto
                            input_map[key_u] auto
                            input_map[key_undo] auto
                            input_map[key_up] auto
                            input_map[key_v] auto
                            input_map[key_w] auto
                            input_map[key_x] auto
                            input_map[key_y] auto
                            input_map[key_z] auto
                            input_map[p1_dialx] auto
                            input_map[p1_dialy] auto
                            input_map[p1_lightgunx] auto
                            input_map[p1_lightguny] auto
                            input_map[p1_mousex] auto
                            input_map[p1_mousey] auto
                            input_map[p1_paddlex] auto
                            input_map[p1_paddley] auto
                            input_map[p1_pedalbrake] auto
                            input_map[p1_pedalgas] auto
                            input_map[p1_pedalother] auto
                            input_map[p1_stickx] auto
                            input_map[p1_sticky] auto
                            input_map[p1_stickz] auto
                            input_map[p1_trackballx] auto
                            input_map[p1_trackbally] auto
                            input_map[p2_dialx] auto
                            input_map[p2_dialy] auto
                            input_map[p2_lightgunx] auto
                            input_map[p2_lightguny] auto
                            input_map[p2_mousex] auto
                            input_map[p2_mousey] auto
                            input_map[p2_paddlex] auto
                            input_map[p2_paddley] auto
                            input_map[p2_pedalbrake] auto
                            input_map[p2_pedalgas] auto
                            input_map[p2_pedalother] auto
                            input_map[p2_stickx] auto
                            input_map[p2_sticky] auto
                            input_map[p2_stickz] auto
                            input_map[p2_trackballx] auto
                            input_map[p2_trackbally] auto
                            input_map[p3_dialx] auto
                            input_map[p3_dialy] auto
                            input_map[p3_lightgunx] auto
                            input_map[p3_lightguny] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_a] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_b] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_bet] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_c] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_chance] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_chi] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_d] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_double_up] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_e] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_f] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_flip_flop] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_g] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_h] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_i] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_j] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_k] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_kan] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_l] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_m] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_n] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_pon] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_reach] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_ron] auto
                            input_map[p3_mahjong_score] auto
                            input_map[p3_mousex] auto
                            input_map[p3_mousey] auto
                            input_map[p3_paddlex] auto
                            input_map[p3_paddley] auto
                            input_map[p3_pedalbrake] auto
                            input_map[p3_pedalgas] auto
                            input_map[p3_pedalother] auto
                            input_map[p3_stickx] auto
                            input_map[p3_sticky] auto
                            input_map[p3_stickz] auto
                            input_map[p3_trackballx] auto
                            input_map[p3_trackbally] auto
                            input_map[p4_dialx] auto
                            input_map[p4_dialy] auto
                            input_map[p4_lightgunx] auto
                            input_map[p4_lightguny] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_a] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_b] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_bet] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_c] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_chance] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_chi] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_d] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_double_up] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_e] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_f] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_flip_flop] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_g] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_h] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_i] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_j] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_k] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_kan] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_l] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_m] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_n] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_pon] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_reach] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_ron] auto
                            input_map[p4_mahjong_score] auto
                            input_map[p4_mousex] auto
                            input_map[p4_mousey] auto
                            input_map[p4_paddlex] auto
                            input_map[p4_paddley] auto
                            input_map[p4_pedalbrake] auto
                            input_map[p4_pedalgas] auto
                            input_map[p4_pedalother] auto
                            input_map[p4_stickx] auto
                            input_map[p4_sticky] auto
                            input_map[p4_stickz] auto
                            input_map[p4_trackballx] auto
                            input_map[p4_trackbally] auto
                            input_map[safequit] auto
                            input_map[service_coin5] auto
                            input_map[service_coin6] auto
                            input_map[service_coin7] auto
                            input_map[service_coin8] auto
                            input_steadykey no
                            lcd_server none
                            lcd_speed 4
                            lcd_timeout 500
                            misc_bios default
                            misc_cheat no
                            misc_cheatfile /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame-advmame/advmess/misc/cheat.dat
                            misc_difficulty none
                            misc_eventdebug no
                            misc_eventfile /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame-advmame/advmess/misc/event.dat
                            misc_freeplay no
                            misc_hiscorefile /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame-advmame/advmess/misc/hiscore.dat
                            misc_lang none
                            misc_languagefile /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame-advmame/advmess/misc/english.lng
                            misc_mutedemo no
                            misc_quiet yes
                            misc_ramsize auto
                            misc_safequit no
                            misc_smp yes
                            misc_timetorun 0
                            record_sound yes
                            record_sound_time 15
                            record_video yes
                            record_video_interleave 2
                            record_video_time 15
                            script_coin1 
                            script_coin2 
                            script_coin3 
                            script_coin4 
                            script_emulation 
                            script_event1 
                            script_event10 
                            script_event11 
                            script_event12 
                            script_event13 
                            script_event14 
                            script_event2 
                            script_event3 
                            script_event4 
                            script_event5 
                            script_event6 
                            script_event7 
                            script_event8 
                            script_event9 
                            script_knocker on(kdb, 0b100); wait(!event()); off(kdb, 0b100);
                            script_led1 on(kdb, 0b1); wait(!event()); off(kdb, 0b1);
                            script_led2 on(kdb, 0b10); wait(!event()); off(kdb, 0b10);
                            script_led3 
                            script_play 
                            script_safequit 
                            script_start1 
                            script_start2 
                            script_start3 
                            script_start4 
                            script_turbo while (event()) { toggle(kdb, 0b100); delay(100); } off(kdb, 0b100);
                            script_video wait(!event()); set(kdb, 0);
                            sound_adjust auto
                            sound_equalizer_highvolume 0
                            sound_equalizer_lowvolume 0
                            sound_equalizer_midvolume 0
                            sound_latency 0.05
                            sound_mode auto
                            sound_normalize yes
                            sound_samplerate 44100
                            sound_samples yes
                            sound_volume -3
                            sync_fps auto
                            sync_resample auto
                            sync_speed 1
                            sync_startuptime auto
                            sync_turbospeed 3
                            ui_color[help_other] 000000 808080
                            ui_color[help_p1] 000000 ffff00
                            ui_color[help_p2] 000000 00ff00
                            ui_color[help_p3] 000000 ff0000
                            ui_color[help_p4] 000000 00ffff
                            ui_color[interface] 000000 ffffff
                            ui_color[select] 000000 afffff
                            ui_color[tag] 247ef0 ffffff
                            ui_font auto
                            ui_fontsize auto
                            ui_helpimage auto
                            ui_translucency 0.8
                            input_map[ui_pause] keyboard[0,e] keyboard[0,a]
                            input_map[ui_reset_machine] keyboard[0,e] keyboard[0,b]
                            input_map[ui_snapshot] keyboard[0,e] keyboard[0,y]
                            input_map[ui_save_state] keyboard[0,e] keyboard[0,r]
                            input_map[ui_load_state] keyboard[0,e] keyboard[0,l]
                            input_map[ui_configure] keyboard[0,tab] or keyboard[0,e] keyboard[0,x]
                            input_map[ui_up] keyboard[0,up]
                            input_map[ui_down] keyboard[0,down]
                            input_map[ui_left] keyboard[0,left]
                            input_map[ui_right] keyboard[0,right]
                            input_map[ui_select] keyboard[0,enter] or keyboard[0,a]
                            input_map[ui_cancel] keyboard[0,esc] or keyboard[0,e] keyboard[0,t]
                            input_map[p1_up] keyboard[0,up]
                            input_map[p1_down] keyboard[0,down]
                            input_map[p1_left] keyboard[0,left]
                            input_map[p1_right] keyboard[0,right]
                            input_map[p1_doubleright_up] 
                            input_map[p1_doubleright_down] 
                            input_map[p1_doubleright_left] 
                            input_map[p1_doubleright_right] 
                            input_map[p1_doubleleft_up] 
                            input_map[p1_doubleleft_down] 
                            input_map[p1_doubleleft_left] 
                            input_map[p1_doubleleft_right] 
                            input_map[p1_button1] keyboard[0,b] or keyboard[0,4]
                            input_map[p1_button2] keyboard[0,x] or keyboard[0,3]
                            input_map[p1_button3] keyboard[0,a] or keyboard[0,2]
                            input_map[p1_button4] keyboard[0,y] or keyboard[0,1]
                            input_map[p1_button5] keyboard[0,r]
                            input_map[p1_button6] keyboard[0,d]
                            input_map[p1_button7] keyboard[0,f]
                            input_map[p1_button8] 
                            input_map[p1_button9] 
                            input_map[p1_button10] 
                            input_map[p1_start] keyboard[0,l]
                            input_map[p1_select] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_a] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_b] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_c] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_d] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_e] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_f] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_g] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_h] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_i] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_j] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_k] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_l] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_m] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_n] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_kan] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_pon] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_chi] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_reach] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_ron] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_bet] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_chance] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_score] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_double_up] 
                            input_map[p1_mahjong_flip_flop] 
                            input_map[p2_up] keyboard[0,i]
                            input_map[p2_down] keyboard[0,j]
                            input_map[p2_left] keyboard[0,g]
                            input_map[p2_right] keyboard[0,h]
                            input_map[p2_button1] keyboard[0,m] or keyboard[0,8]
                            input_map[p2_button2] keyboard[0,n] or keyboard[0,7]
                            input_map[p2_button3] keyboard[0,k] or keyboard[0,6]
                            input_map[p2_button4] keyboard[0,o] or keyboard[0,5]
                            input_map[p2_start] 
                            input_map[p2_select] 
                            channelf[home_pi_retropie_roms_channelf_alien_invasion]/input_map[p1_up] keyboard[0,i]
                            channelf[home_pi_retropie_roms_channelf_alien_invasion]/input_map[p1_down] keyboard[0,j]
                            channelf[home_pi_retropie_roms_channelf_alien_invasion]/input_map[p1_left] keyboard[0,g]
                            channelf[home_pi_retropie_roms_channelf_alien_invasion]/input_map[p1_right] keyboard[0,h]
                            channelf[home_pi_retropie_roms_channelf_alien_invasion]/input_map[p1_button1] keyboard[0,m]
                            channelf[home_pi_retropie_roms_channelf_alien_invasion]/input_map[p2_up] keyboard[0,up]
                            channelf[home_pi_retropie_roms_channelf_alien_invasion]/input_map[p2_down] keyboard[0,down]
                            channelf[home_pi_retropie_roms_channelf_alien_invasion]/input_map[p2_left] keyboard[0,left]
                            channelf[home_pi_retropie_roms_channelf_alien_invasion]/input_map[p2_right] keyboard[0,right]
                            channelf[home_pi_retropie_roms_channelf_alien_invasion]/input_map[p2_button1] keyboard[0,b]
                            
                            

                            RetroPie v4.5 • RPi3 Model B • 5.1V 2.5A PSU • 16GB SanDisk microSD • 512GB External Drive

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                              SpudsMcToole Banned @mediamogul
                              last edited by SpudsMcToole

                              @mediamogul That sorted the Channel F (with a bit of tweaking), cheers.

                              The Astrocade I'd already fixed, and it works fine for every game I've tried EXCEPT Space Fortress (unfortunately the best game on the system), which used to run fine but now goes at about 1fps. I tried using your .RC file instead, but the exact same thing happened.

                              The really freaky one is the Arcadia, though. I can get it to run no problem, right up to the point where I start any game, at which point it plays them by itself. No matter how I set the controls, the player ship will just lurch around, moving and shooting (or whatever) all on its own, regardless of whether I touch the controls or not.

                              But here's the REALLY wacky part.

                              If I boot up Pleiades on the Arcadia, it plays through the first three stages by itself. It's pretty good - it clears them all. So I wondered if I'd (somehow) recorded and then played back a previous game. But THEN, and only then, it gives me back control for the last stage (the one where you steer onto an airstrip dodging the parked ships). Keyboard and joystick both control the ship perfectly.

                              Once I've steered to the target and completed the stage, the Pi takes over and plays by itself again.

                              If anyone can explain any of THAT, I'm all ears.

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