Zdoom and Gampad Fully Working in MENU with NO KEYBOARD

FelixofMars

This all works, apart from you cannot exit the game by using the menu. Even if you configure the menu_quit to another button, the menu displays but none of the buttons actually allow you to select to quit.

Annoyingly as it's not supported by retroarch configuration, you cannot use the exit hotkeys either.

So the only option is to hard reset the Pi or use a keyboard.

Edit: So it does work, but you have to hammer the d-pad. I am starting to think the input sensitivity is too high as moving between options on the menu often skips. *
In the end I have bound the "exit" console command to a button, just edit the zdoom.ini to contain something like joy16=exit **

ale120679

Hi, it doesn't fit with Brutal Doom MOD installation.
Have I to compile the Brutal Doom .pk3 file?

Isn't there a simpler way to accomplish the task?

In zdoom.ini file I can specify:
"joy10=menu_main"
Why there isn't anything as (for example):
joy11=menu_enter
joy12=menu_back
It would be a lot simpler!

I don't understand why Zdoom has not this option, I've asked on their forum but still waiting for an answer.
Let me know if someone has found a better way then recompile.

RetroS3xual

@rodhull I agree with you as I've just recently tried to get this running. The binary used in the script as of the day of this post WILL run Brutal Doom by making a simple change to the zdoom.ini file AutoLoad config. However, when I used the Menu controller fix and recompiled, I was unable to load Brutal Doom with the same zdoom.ini that was previously working. The following error is produced by the runcommand.sh script:

Script warning, "bd21RC8.pk3:player.txt"
Invalid face '' for 'Doomer';

If the latest commit to the repo is in fact what was used to build the binary installed via retropie-setup.sh script, then the problem will be harder to fix. But I am suspicious of such a size change to the binary with only a few lines of code changed. I can start by digging through commits, but any additional info or help on this matter from the community would be appreciated.

Edit: So I looked into it and yes, 2.8.0 appears to be the last working commit. So if that's the case, it was published on Feb 4, 2016. There is a commit on that day and is the possible "last working version" we're looking for.
Commit hash: 56359b6f233f538b8cbcec093af93a19d66fabed
I'll experiment with this as soon as I can and see if 1) it produces the same binary from the RetroPie script and 2) do the menu edits works with it. I will provide an update with steps if this works.

RetroS3xual

I got it working! And here's how I did it:

First, after performing this step:
git clone https://github.com/RetroPie/zdoom.git retropie

execute this:

cd retropie
git checkout retropie

Now make the edits provided in the original post.
After running the cmake . -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release step, do the following:

If you don't already have ccmake, execute sudo apt-get install cmake-curses-gui from the command line.
Run ccmake --> ccmake ./
In the GUI that launches, navigate down to NO_ASM and hit Enter to set it to ON
Press c to run the configure step, then q to exit

Now continue from the make step from the original post, and everything should work!

Protocultor

Hello guys,

I wanted to thank RapidEdwin08 and RetroS3xual for all the useful info. It allowed me to understand how ZDoom works, and gave me a start point for what I'm presenting now: gamepad buttons finally working in menus, without the need for "Enter" and "Esc" keys, and with "left" and "right" functioning as they should, so the game doesn't need a keyboard anymore. You can download the binaries here:

https://github.com/protocultor/zdoom/releases/tag/2.8.11

For those who want to see the changes, here they are:
https://github.com/protocultor/zdoom/commit/4b129d827233b8bb42ce64e8b74231b9906c0f78

...and now I'm hoping to see these changes officially in RetroPie in the future:
https://github.com/RetroPie/zdoom/pull/2

Quackwalks

Pretty excited for this.

Protocultor

@RetroS3xual I forgot to say: in the ccmake GUI, you can also enable NO_GTK. This made the executable 200kb smaller for me, with no side effects and able to run Brutal Doom v21 RC8.

I released updated binaries:

https://github.com/protocultor/zdoom/releases/tag/2.8.12

This will allow the "main menu" button to work after you've finished an episode. By default, it's joy9 (SELECT in the gamepads I've seen) but you can change it in the controls. The following is what made it work, and is included in the pull request:
https://github.com/protocultor/zdoom/commit/74f3c8140710cd002c030c8c0f3100c2b24fc7d4
It's a shame that nobody in the RetroPie team has seen the PR yet :(

Rion

@Protocultor Have you tried to ring the Bell @BuZz ?

BuZz

@Rion I saw the PR. Just busy :-) I may merge PR to a new branch but my current priorities are getting new release out and I'm short on time etc :-)

The PR is appreciated and will get reviewed in time. Cheers!

RetroS3xual

@Protocultor thank you so much for doing this! I downloaded your build and can say it's working great. :) I've only played a few levels of Brutal Doom (working) but I was able to navigate the menus with the buttons as expected and could proceed with the end-level screen. Looking forward to this being added on to the RetroPie-Setup script.

Protocultor

Thanks for the replies guys!

RetroFreak89

I dont want to change the subject but im working on a doom pi project im curious is zdoom the best performance source port to use on the pi?

Solid One

@Protocultor I have a RPI2 and tried to compile manually zdoom from your github repository, in order to see if the controller mappings would work on my PS2 controllers plugged through this adapter:
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However, it didn't worked. Although I could map start button to "main_menu" (and then avoid pressing ESC on the keyboard), the same couldn't be said for D-pad Left / Right to "Enter" / "Menu Back", so I couldn't select any menu options without having to resort to my keyboard.

I tried turning analog on and off (by pressing the button between Select and Start) and then pressing all controller buttons. Didn't worked. Tried pressing all buttons from my controller and again it didn't worked. I even tried tweaking some controller mappings manually in zdoom.ini, to no avail.

After reading a bit your code changes in github, am I right to assume that the controller mappings didn't worked because I'm using a kinda generic controller adapter? Would it work if I used a wired Xbox 360 controller for that test?

Besides, I even got an issue that, although unrelated to the controllers, was preventing zdoom process to close when I exit the game. Had to press Ctrl+C from keyboard to do that, and without keyboard, I couldn't go back to EmulationStation after closing zdoom, so if it wasn't for my keyboard at my side, I would be forced to hard reset my RPi. That didn't happened on the other binaries compiled directly from RetroPie-Setup.

Protocultor

@Solid-One, first of all: when you compiled my repo, did you change to the retropie branch? All my changes are in that branch only. Also, I've only tested with a RPI 3B+; a RPI 2 shouldn't have any problems, but maybe it's something to consider.

If you have any doubts about the compilation process, you can instead download the binaries here:
https://github.com/protocultor/zdoom/releases/tag/2.8.12.2
Unzip its contents to /opt/retropie/ports/zdoom/. Backup if you want, but you can restore the original version by reinstalling zdoom through Retropie-Setup.sh

About that adapter of yours, I have to say that had one of those (or it was extremely similar) and I hated it. When connecting two controllers there was "interference", the input of one controller affected the other. Also, button layout was all over the place, made more evident when connecting to a PS3 console, where Square and Triangle buttons were exchanged by X and Circle, or something like that.

My solution to those problems was changing that adapter to 2 that connected only one controller at a time, and they were black. Don't remember if it's one of these:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/For-Sony-PS1-PS2-Play-Station-2-Joypad-GamePad-to-PS3-PC-USB-Games-Controller-Adapter/32521537537.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/High-Quality-1pc-USB-Adapter-Converter-Cable-For-Gaming-Controller-For-PS2-to-For-PS3-PC/32789486872.html
...or maybe a even cheaper version, but they got the job done.

In any case, as zdoom uses SDL2 for input, you can check if your controllers work properly with the following project:
https://github.com/Grumbel/sdl-jstest
A couple of warnings:
1.- You'll have to compile it manually, following instructions in README.md
2.- sdl2-jstest has a problem with RPI where the interrupt signal (Ctrl-C) is not properly recognized, so you'll have to kill the program manually by connecting through SSH and killing the process (or just unplug the Pi, something not very recommended).

Still, I'm assuming you are using your adapter normally with, let's say, Retroarch emulators (lr-something). Please keep me updated if you make any progress with this.

Solid One

@Protocultor Retropie branch? Aww crap. I hadn't specified any, so I've probably compiled the source from master branch. That explains why I haven't noticed anything different between the original binary and yours. I'll try recompiling it again later, from that branch.

And I've tested your binaries before compiling from source on my side. However, they didn't worked on my RPi2. I got a error that seems to be related to different RPi versions. Since you got a RPi3 and I've a RPi2, I guess that's why it didn't worked. Maybe a binary compiled directly from a RPi2 such as mine would work.

About my PS2 adapter, I would say I got lucky. I have two units of this adapter, and both are working just fine, never getting any interference issues even when I plugged four PS2 controllers in two adapters, for playing games such as Super Bomberman 4 and Mario Kart 64. However, I can confirm the different button layout, when compared to Xbox 360 controllers per example. But since most of my games in my RPi2 are emulated through RetroArch, and I've configured it through EmulationStation, everything seems just fine. I was able to even configure the left analog to move / strafe and the right analog to turn, in N64 FPS games such as Doom 64 and Duke Nukem Zero Hour, and it works just fine.

About zdoom controller support, except for menu navigation, everything works just fine on my PS2 controllers. I can map the left analog to move / strafe, right analog to turn / aim, R2 to shoot, D-pad to change weapons / inventory, square to jump, cross to open doors, circle to crouch, and so on. I've even got to the point of configuring extra actions for mods such as Brutal Doom and Real Guns Hardcore: L2 to aim, triangle to reload, right analog stick to kick and R1 to throw grenades.

Anyway, I'll see if I can compile it again and I'll tell you the results.

Solid One

Just recompiled it two days ago, from retropie branch instead of master. Now my controller is working like a charm. I can choose options with cross button, go back with circle button, and access main menu by pressing start. Now I can play zdoom mods only from a gamepad. Thanks!

G30FF

@Protocultor Sorry to bother, but I tried to install your binary build of 2.8.12.2 on my Pi 3 B+. I started with a fresh zdoom.ini. I've tried it with two different controllers: a SNES30 Pro connected via the 8bitdo USB wireless adapter, and the SN30 Pro Wired Controller (the first registers as a PS4 controller, and the second registers as a 360 controller). I can navigate the menu, but I have two major problems:

On both controllers, the left thumb stick is acting as if up and right on the left thumbstick is constantly being pressed, so the menu is constantly scrolling up, and if I get into the game, I am constantly looking up and moving forward.
I can't open the menu while in-game.

Is there anything I'm doing wrong? I tried building from source on the retropie branch, but I have the same results whether I build form source or download the binary build.

Protocultor

@G30FF I don't even know how to start, you are the first person that describes me something like it. One question: does this situation happen in-game with the original executable (without my changes)?

Solid One

For opening menus ingame, see here.

About your issue with left analog stick constantly pressing up or right: It happened to me too on menu navigation, when I tested with another PS2 controller with a loose left analog stick. Zdoom allows menu navigation through left analog stick, but it's super sensitive: the minor axis movement done in the stick is detected, and it can result in the controller keeping pressing up or down constantly. It only stops when I center the analog left stick manually with my thumb. It happened both on original Zdoom, and on the binary containing the changes made by @Protocultor.

It happened because there's no deadzone values being applied to the axes that corresponds to the left analog stick, when it's used specifically for menu navigation. There's deadzone only for other actions besides menu navigation, such as character movement per se.

For common users, there's some solutions / workarounds for this issue:

Fix the looseness in the left analog stick of your controller (If there's any);
Try centering the left analog stick manually with your thumb, when navigating through menus;
Test Zdoom with another controller, by unplugging all other controls you have, and plugging only the one you're going to use.

For developers, a possible solution would be implementing deadzone support in menu navigation (If not done yet), or allowing menu navigation not from controller axes, but controller hats (d-pad, per example).

Similarly to what @Protocultor done in Zdoom, I'm trying to implement menu navigation in Doom Legacy, and I'm using hats for pressing up, down, left or right in the menus. For the moment, I haven't got that issue yet (besides testing with controllers with only axes and no hats, but that's another discussion).

Protocultor

@Solid-One thanks for the explanation, that makes a lot more sense.
I'll mess around with the code in the next few weeks to see if I can add a fixed amount of deadzone to menu/GUI actions only. After all, they are meant to be controlled with the cursor keys; analog input is no advantage here.