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    EmulationStation Kiosk-USB Specific Crash - Can it be Replicated?

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    • mituM
      mitu Global Moderator
      last edited by

      Looks like a case of 'USB not ready before ES starts' thus not finding any systems on the disk. Being in Kiosk Mode, the retropie system is also not available, so this might lead to a crash. Restarting ES works because the USB is available and the systems are correctly read.

      The messages from the log don't seem related to your problem and neither the fact that you have sub-folders.
      What you can do is to exit Kiosk mode and see what happens on the 1st run. If you get only the RetroPie system, then my guess is correct. Can you post your es_settings.cfg file from ~/.emulationstation ?

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      • hooperreH
        hooperre @mitu
        last edited by

        @mitu said in EmulationStation Kiosk-USB Specific Crash - Can it be Replicated?:

        Looks like a case of 'USB not ready before ES starts' thus not finding any systems on the disk. Being in Kiosk Mode, the retropie system is also not available, so this might lead to a crash. Restarting ES works because the USB is available and the systems are correctly read.

        The messages from the log don't seem related to your problem and neither the fact that you have sub-folders.
        What you can do is to exit Kiosk mode and see what happens on the 1st run. If you get only the RetroPie system, then my guess is correct. Can you post your es_settings.cfg file from ~/.emulationstation ?

        Thanks for responding, @mitu.

        https://pastebin.com/krfXpm0P

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        • mituM
          mitu Global Moderator @hooperre
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          @hooperre There doesn't seem anything special with your settings. I was checking if you're using the Local Art option, since that's something new in Emulationstation 2.8, this year's release.
          I'll see if I can reproduce this or get a simpler test case.
          As a workaround, try adding a delay before Emulationstation starts, add a line with sleep 3 in the autostart.sh file in /opt/retropie/configs/all/autostart.sh, just before the line that starts emulationstation.

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          • hooperreH
            hooperre @mitu
            last edited by hooperre

            @mitu Mannnn I hate to report this but sleep 3 sleep 5 and sleep 50 all failed.

            I’ll paste the es_log.txt here: https://pastebin.com/6hJgYatE
            es_log.txt.bak: https://pastebin.com/wq6Vc7jh (seems the same)

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            • mituM
              mitu Global Moderator @hooperre
              last edited by

              @hooperre Did you forget to post the log ?

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              • hooperreH
                hooperre
                last edited by hooperre

                @mitu Posted. Seems like the log is just abruptly interrupted.

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                • mituM
                  mitu Global Moderator
                  last edited by mitu

                  Yes, the logs are the same, it seems the crash happens when loading the collections starting with [space]. You say that it only happens on 1st load ? Did you have another ES version before this crash started happening ?

                  EDIT: is there any crash error message on the terminal ?

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                  • hooperreH
                    hooperre @mitu
                    last edited by

                    @mitu To be honest, I only use Kiosk when copying my SD for my cousin and brother so I'm not sure pre vs. post update.

                    The crash message is the "Emulationstation has crashed" blue screen. Suggests I reset rom permissions / check gpu split. I can post a picture later if you're not sure what I'm referring to from memory.

                    Is there another character I can use to bring the collections to the top besides a space? I can test that when I'm back from work.

                    4B ~ RPi PSU 5.1V / 3.0A ~ 32GB SanDisk microSD ~ 128GB USB

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                    • mituM
                      mitu Global Moderator @hooperre
                      last edited by mitu

                      @hooperre said in EmulationStation Kiosk-USB Specific Crash - Can it be Replicated?:

                      The crash message is the "Emulationstation has crashed" blue screen. Suggests I reset rom permissions / check gpu split. I can post a picture later if you're not sure what I'm referring to from memory.

                      Aha, I know that message. It happens when ES crashes, but the actual crash might behind that message (in the terminal screen). Is there such message ?

                      EDIT:

                      Is there another character I can use to bring the collections to the top besides a space? I can test that when I'm back from work.

                      Try using _ or !.

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                      • hooperreH
                        hooperre @mitu
                        last edited by hooperre

                        @mitu How would I get underneath the message? I've tried Ctrl+C but it seems that the keyboard doesn't work. I know there is an exit or back option, but there's no way for me to select it because it seems like all the inputs don't work at that point. Can I SSH in and somehow see it there? exit?

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                        • mituM
                          mitu Global Moderator @hooperre
                          last edited by

                          @hooperre Maybe Esc or Enter ?

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                          • hooperreH
                            hooperre @mitu
                            last edited by

                            @mitu I’m fairly certain I’ve tried both as I have a keyboard with it currently. No other way to see that error?

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                            • hooperreH
                              hooperre @mitu
                              last edited by hooperre

                              @mitu Confirmed. Basically freezes the system. No inputs work.

                              4B ~ RPi PSU 5.1V / 3.0A ~ 32GB SanDisk microSD ~ 128GB USB

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                              • mituM
                                mitu Global Moderator @hooperre
                                last edited by

                                @hooperre Try to login to the system via SSG and run killall dialog when the message is on-screen. I forgot about this option.

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                                • hooperreH
                                  hooperre
                                  last edited by hooperre

                                  @mitu I basically just see the error screen above a regular terminal as if you exited EmulationStation after using the killall dialog command, but I don't see the actual error message anywhere.

                                  Only have collections starting with letters. es_log.txt here: https://pastebin.com/hszxWE2V.

                                  4B ~ RPi PSU 5.1V / 3.0A ~ 32GB SanDisk microSD ~ 128GB USB

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                                  • mituM
                                    mitu Global Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    OK, time to bring up the big guns. If you have SSH access to the Pi, you can try to get a backtrace from the crash:

                                    1. Install gdb with
                                    apt -y install gdb
                                    
                                    1. Replace the autostart.sh command to start ES with
                                    gdb -batch -ex "run" -ex "bt" -ex "quit" /opt/retropie/supplementary/emulationstation/emulationstation 2>&1 > /tmp/es.log
                                    

                                    So, instead of the normal autostart.sh which contains just

                                    emulationstation #auto
                                    

                                    you should have

                                    # emulationstation #auto
                                    gdb -batch -ex "run" -ex "bt" -ex "quit" /opt/retropie/supplementary/emulationstation/emulationstation 2>&1 > /tmp/es.log
                                    

                                    You can find the autostart.sh file in /opt/retropie/configs/all/autostart.sh, do a backup of it just in case.

                                    Reboot, get the crash message, but don't stop the Pi right away, just SSH in and get the /tmp/es.log file which should contain the crash place in Emulationstation.

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                                    • hooperreH
                                      hooperre @mitu
                                      last edited by hooperre

                                      @mitu

                                      My autostart.sh appears as follows:

                                      emulationstation #auto
                                      gdb -batch -ex "run" -ex "bt" -ex "quit" /opt/retropie/supplementary/emulationstation/emulationstation 2>&1 > /tmp/es.log
                                      

                                      I did have to change file permissions to 777 in the created directories above to view them. Am I missing a sudo command anywhere? (sudo gdb doesn't seem to make it work.)

                                      sudo nano /tmp/es.log shows nothing.

                                      Am dumb was missing the comment part of # emulationstation #auto on line 1.

                                      es.log: https://pastebin.com/BpXY8K3A

                                      4B ~ RPi PSU 5.1V / 3.0A ~ 32GB SanDisk microSD ~ 128GB USB

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                                      • mituM
                                        mitu Global Moderator @hooperre
                                        last edited by

                                        @hooperre Well, that's the error right there :|. Let's see how we can solve that.

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                                        • hooperreH
                                          hooperre @mitu
                                          last edited by

                                          @mitu Haha hey thanks for sticking with me this far. It's all gibberish to me so hope you can come up with something! :)

                                          4B ~ RPi PSU 5.1V / 3.0A ~ 32GB SanDisk microSD ~ 128GB USB

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                                          • mituM
                                            mitu Global Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            I did some tests and I can't get a crash because of Kid mode. Would it be possible to make a zip of all the gamelists.xml and collections you have (no ROMs) and upload it somewhere ? You can easily create an archive with

                                            # zip the gamelists
                                            find $HOME/RetroPie/roms/ .emulationstation/gamelists/ -name gamelist.xml | xargs zip -P retropie -@ gamelist.zip
                                            
                                            # zip the collections
                                            zip -P retropie -r collections.zip $HOME/.emulationstation/collections/
                                            
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