The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!
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@paffley Emulators itself don't need much system RAM, so increasing it won't help. More memory can help with other things like the frontend (EmulationStation). My advise is to get 2gb if you really want to use it for emulation with RetroPie only, or just the 1gb if you can't justify the 28% increase in price, while the performance in emulation don't change. But having more (4gb) won't hurt other than your pocket.
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Perfect answer! Thanks @thelostsoul that answers my question! :)
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I was also thinking more on the lines of N64 performance, I didn't want to purchase the 2gb version if the 4gb would be much better for this system (wait 5-6 days for 4gb release). But from what I gather its more the n64 emulation correct? than the power of the unit itself? :)
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Excited about this.
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Someone mention Sega model 1&2, IIRC that model1 (or 2 that where my memory loose accuracy) run really poorly on pi3 (daytona usa was like 7-10fps with some glitch) any chance, on paper, of an improvement?
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@Thak said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:
Someone mention Sega model 1&2, IIRC that model1 (or 2 that where my memory loose accuracy) run really poorly on pi3 (daytona usa was like 7-10fps with some glitch) any chance, on paper, of an improvement?
on what emulator? if it was MAME, then the CPU is 2-4 times the performance of the pi3, depending on the situation, and MAME is CPU based, so assuming that is the bottleneck, i would expect a good improvement, but it's probably still going to be glitchy. maybe a later version of MAME is viable. really need a specialist model 1&2 emulator becoming open source... doubtful.
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@Thak it does seem like it's abandoned unfortunately. known glitches in basically every game. so yeah, glitches will remain but i would expect better performance.
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@dankcushions damn... That's too bad :'(
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I would really rather have a full sized HDMI port than 2 micro ports, but other than that, this looks really exciting. 4k hardware h.265 decoding is something I've wanted for awhile, and the memory options are great. Can I assume this will run much cooler than the 3b+?
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@Lyle_JP said in The new Raspberry Pi 4 is here!!:
Can I assume this will run much cooler than the 3b+?
Hard to say (from my perspective). If you aim at same performance, then it will be cooler for sure. If you run it at its full potential, I would assume its a bit hotter, because its consuming more power. Here is a full review and first look, testing the heat too: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/raspberry-pi-4-b,6193.html
Yes, this board gets warm, warmer than its predecessor. Thermal images mirror what we experienced; the areas of the board near the CPU get really warm, not just the top of the processor itself. The Pi 4 board reaches a toasty 74.5 degrees Celsius (166 degrees Fahrenheit). That’s not enough for a serious burn, but kids especially should be sure to pick up the Pi by its sides only. The top surface of the Pi 3 B+ is much cooler, maxing out at 62.5 degrees Celsius (144.6 degrees Fahrenheit).
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Looking forward to being able to turn on the rewind feature for PS1, which, on my 3B+, slows things down to a stutter. I've been wondering if it had more to do with processor limitations or memory bandwidth limitations?
Something to look forward to down the line. I just finished putting together a retropie this spring, so I really should just enjoy it for a while, at least long enough for case designers to release updates for the new form factor :-)
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I understand that all the ports aren't in the same spot but is the board the same size and are the 4 screw holes in the same locations? I run my pi-hole in a stacked pair of cases and it would be nice to just remove the old board and replace it with a new one when I upgrade that particular pi.
Actually that would be useful for at least one of my Retropie builds as well
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@simpleethat The website says they managed to make it compatible, but not 100%. The place for the LAN connection is changed, so they could optimize it more.
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@thelostsoul the case it would be going into is four standoffs and a top and bottom plastic board. That sounds pretty promising
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hi is it worth it to take the 2gb version? i mean does it perform faster in anything over the 1gb
here in greece in the official distributor it cost 60usd including shipping while the 1gb version cost almost 49usd with shipping
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@retropi19 the front-end or memory hungry games can benefit from the VRAM increase.
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from the virtual ram you mean?
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@retropi19 VRAM = Video RAM, the amount of memory reserved for the GPU.
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in general i mean not only in retropie any benefit from the extra ram?
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