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    thestarglider @GreenHawk84
    last edited by thestarglider 8 Feb 2019, 12:53 2 Aug 2019, 11:53

    @GreenHawk84 and again, since the target speed of the Emulation is 60fps, I'm somewhat skeptical that this stutter is purely down to a drop of a couple of frames a second that really no human is going to notice with their eyes. Something else is interfering with your game.

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      barbudreadmon @thestarglider
      last edited by barbudreadmon 8 Feb 2019, 13:18 2 Aug 2019, 12:06

      @thestarglider said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

      Post update, my FPS actually increased to a fairly solid 60fps, perhaps dropping every so often to 59.

      The game actually run at 59.583393Hz, but with RA's fps counter not being perfect you'll only see an approximation.

      Anyway, yeah, the pi3b+ is definitely able to run at full speed the 3 sfiii without OC nor frameskip, including sfiii2 with widescreen (for me), i don't understand what's the issue for @Darksavior @Lyle_JP @GreenHawk84, at this point i think it might be a hardware defect.

      FBNeo developer - github - forum

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        IanDaemon
        last edited by IanDaemon 2 Aug 2019, 13:27

        Hello, first of all I don't want to complain. You do great work, but is there something wrong with my setup or has someone else experienced the following?

        Food Fight ran fine with FBA previously, but when I upgraded to FBNeo I lost the ability to play Food Fight. I didn't notice earlier because it's not a title I play often, but I was recently going to try to make the controls similar to Robotron 2084 only to find that the game no longer played in "Final Burn" (my arcade default). The title never played in FBA2012, FBNeoGeo, and MAME on the RPi. FBA was the only emulator that worked. Is something corrupt with my ROM? Just curious. Thanks.

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          barbudreadmon @IanDaemon
          last edited by 2 Aug 2019, 13:43

          @IanDaemon said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

          when I upgraded to FBNeo I lost the ability to play Food Fight

          The game is working fine so i guess you are using a bad romset.

          FBNeo developer - github - forum

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            Riverstorm
            last edited by 2 Aug 2019, 14:42

            @IanDaemon - Food Fight (foodf) should be working in mame2003 and mame2003-plus. With mame2003-plus I think markwkidd created a "bootstrap" which basically generates the .nvram file on the fly during game launch or it hangs and looks broken. It's seamless to the user. I don't remember if mame2003 has the bootstrap code but I know you can copy the .nvram file over from m3plus to 2003 and it works fine.

            There's several games that need .nvram files or they don't boot correctly so I keep clean copies with the ROMs for new setups. I've never needed to do that for FBNeo though as they have always just worked.

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              barbudreadmon @Riverstorm
              last edited by 2 Aug 2019, 16:14

              @Riverstorm said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

              I've never needed to do that for FBNeo though as they have always just worked.

              Because on latest mame romsets (the ones FBNeo uses), the nvram is part of the romset for games that need it.

              FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                Riverstorm @barbudreadmon
                last edited by 2 Aug 2019, 20:09

                @barbudreadmon said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

                Because on latest mame romsets (the ones FBNeo uses), the nvram is part of the romset for games that need it.

                @barbudreadmon - Thanks for that it makes things a lot easier! :)

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                  GreenHawk84
                  last edited by 8 Aug 2019, 21:27

                  Okay so upon replacing the generic power supply with an official Raspberry Pi power supply, it seems the game runs a lot better than before. I still think that FBA2012 is working a little better, but apparently I was using a bunk PSU.

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                    barbudreadmon @GreenHawk84
                    last edited by 9 Aug 2019, 14:12

                    @GreenHawk84 said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

                    apparently I was using a bunk PSU

                    Yeah, hardware defect was the most likely suspect from the beginning, assuming you were really using default settings.

                    @GreenHawk84 said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

                    I still think that FBA2012 is working a little better

                    Use whatever you want, as far as i'm concerned the pi3b+/FBNeo/cps3 combination is perfectly smooth on my side, and i prefer accurate emulation when available.

                    FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                      GreenHawk84
                      last edited by GreenHawk84 8 Oct 2019, 22:43 10 Aug 2019, 16:33

                      False alarm, my 3B+ still runs SF3 poorly. Everything else is fine. I have installed fbneo from source multiple times, defaulted my settings in retroarch (even though I never changed anything) and even turned off my simple overlay of side art for the game. Nothing works for fbneo (SF3), but fba2012 is pretty nice. I think I am going to give up on this for now, maybe something will improve for me later.

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                        dankcushions Global Moderator @GreenHawk84
                        last edited by 10 Aug 2019, 22:26

                        @GreenHawk84 how did you default your settings? there’s a right way, and a wrong way...

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                          GreenHawk84 @dankcushions
                          last edited by 11 Aug 2019, 01:27

                          @dankcushions I just went into the Retroarch UI and selected the option to reset.

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                            dankcushions Global Moderator @GreenHawk84
                            last edited by 11 Aug 2019, 08:25

                            @GreenHawk84 that’s the wrong way, hence you won’t see it in any of our docs. it gives you retroarch defaults, which are very different from retropie defaults, and probably include rewind, and a bunch of other non-performing features.

                            right way: https://www.reddit.com/r/RetroPie/comments/7gupd2/how_do_i_reset_retroarch_settings/

                            but tbh, now that you used that option i don’t know what your .cfg setup will be like. you’re on your own...

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                              HACHI201
                              last edited by 11 Aug 2019, 09:32

                              My fbneo can't run, he will return to the selection interface, my device is Raspberry Pi 3b+, do you know how to solve it?

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                                mitu Global Moderator @HACHI201
                                last edited by 11 Aug 2019, 15:09

                                @HACHI201 open a new topic and provide the information asked in the Read-me-first topic, linked at the top of the forum.

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                                  barbudreadmon @HACHI201
                                  last edited by barbudreadmon 8 Nov 2019, 16:46 11 Aug 2019, 15:46

                                  @HACHI201 said in Goodbye fbalpha, welcome fbneo:

                                  do you know how to solve it?

                                  Imho, usual "i didn't bother reading the arcade documentation and don't know what's a romset" crap.

                                  FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                                    sirhenrythe5th @barbudreadmon
                                    last edited by 11 Aug 2019, 16:32

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                                      GreenHawk84 @dankcushions
                                      last edited by 12 Aug 2019, 00:31

                                      @dankcushions if you think my .cfg is jacked, do you have a copy of a default .cfg I can just replace mine with?

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                                        Riverstorm
                                        last edited by 12 Aug 2019, 02:56

                                        @GreenHawk84 - Just go to your fbneo folder and rename your current retroarch.cfg file (for backup, troubleshooting or you can delete it). I like to keep it for a while by adding .bak to the original name or my initials or whatever.

                                        Then copy the retroarch.cfg.rp-dist file (it should be located in the same folder) and rename it to retroarch.cfg. This should restore default settings for the core but keep your original settings handy for reference. It usually works best if you exit ES back to a prompt while doing it or that may cause a potential issue too.

                                        There may still be some global settings that are potentially causing issues but the core settings are usually an easy reset. Also you could check ROM level settings if you use them.

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                                          GreenHawk84 @Riverstorm
                                          last edited by 12 Aug 2019, 16:59

                                          @Riverstorm I will try this, thank you. Is there a global .cfg I can use to replace mine? There has to be a way to default everything without re-imaging.

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