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    • arcadez2003A
      arcadez2003 @WeirdH
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      @WeirdH said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

      @arcadez2003 Keeping the awesomeness coming, I see.

      I would love some Elevator Action Returns, but the one time I tried it, it ran really slow. Is this due to the (lack of) horsepower on a Pi 3B+, or is it an emulation issue?

      Emulation on lesser spec hardware i suppose, on the xbox with a similar ole MAME core that has the speedups in the taito_f3 driver we get around 20 - 30 fps
      depending on which game it is, i think it's the soundcore which causes the issues if we had a speedup for that similar to say DCS for the Midway games we'd
      get a big ole boost.

      Arcade Addict

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      • darkniorD
        darknior
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        Incredible, the hack has bean realized :D
        Please, will you add it to MAME2003+ ... to play it on PI <3
        Thanks a lot

        https://github.com/originalgrego/FinalFightAE-Installer
        https://www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php?topic=28073.60

        Life is game, just play it !

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        • sirhenrythe5thS
          sirhenrythe5th @arcadez2003
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          @arcadez2003 I second emulation issues.
          I am using a non-overclocked Pi3B+ with AdvanceMame_3.9 and "Elevator Action Returns" (as well as other Taito F3-Games) run great without hacks or frame-skipping.
          I love this game, so i was very happy when it got a remarkable performance-boost with AdvanceMame_3.0, with the Version 1.4 and lower Taito F3 was also very laggy (=unplayable).

          @darksavior: SEGA Titan (STV) Games dont run smooth on AdvanceMame. They do start - but they are way too laggy to have fun playing them, some even have major graphic-issues.
          As mentioned: speaking about a non-overclocked Pi3B+ without any perfomance-tweaks.
          Talking about "i wish it was a libretro-core": i dont feel any disantvantages.
          I can map various actions on several buttons of several input devices (as example: Button A = Joystick Button 1 plus Arcade-Stick Button 1 plus Keyboard Button A...and so on.)
          You cant do that with retrorach.
          The scanlines (various to choose) look great and overall you get the same feeling and handling as a libretro-core, but better performance and support of the 0.106 romset.

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          • ClydeC
            Clyde @arcadez2003
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            @arcadez2003 said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

            Couple of decent fixes for Elevator Action Returns and Fighters History that are worth a mention..........

            Thanks for this awesome work. You even anticipated my question about the EAR light fix in FBN. 😃👍

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              spud11 @sirhenrythe5th
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              @sirhenrythe5th I do the same with Elevator Action Returns, although I believe I'm using AdvanceMame 3.7 rather than 3.9. It's been the only emulator so far that works full speed, as far as I can tell. However, I'm not sure whether the "lights go out" if you shoot the lights/power boxes. Recollection is that it doesn't and I'm not near my pi to try it out.

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              • GreenHawk84G
                GreenHawk84
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                Hello,
                I would greatly appreciate if someone were able to get Golden Axe Revenge of Death Adder working properly? Is there I way I can setup or contribute to a donation to help the cause?

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                • DarksaviorD
                  Darksavior @GreenHawk84
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                  @GreenHawk84 I've asked in the past and the answer was no. It'll break too much stuff or something. Get a pi4 and use mame2010,2015 or 2016.

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                    barbudreadmon @GreenHawk84
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                    @GreenHawk84 imho, proper ga2 emulation will require something more powerful than a pi3, whatever the emulator.

                    PS : ga2's graphic is still tagged as imperfect in latest mame : http://adb.arcadeitalia.net/dettaglio_mame.php?game_name=ga2&lang=en , i don't think this game's emulation got any major upgrade since 2010.

                    FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                    • GreenHawk84G
                      GreenHawk84 @Darksavior
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                      @Darksavior said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                      @GreenHawk84 I've asked in the past and the answer was no. It'll break too much stuff or something. Get a pi4 and use mame2010,2015 or 2016.

                      Noted, I will have to see when Pi4 Retropie is official and steady.

                      @barbudreadmon said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                      @GreenHawk84 imho, proper ga2 emulation will require something more powerful than a pi3, whatever the emulator.

                      PS : ga2's graphic is still tagged as imperfect in latest mame : http://adb.arcadeitalia.net/dettaglio_mame.php?game_name=ga2&lang=en , i don't think this game's emulation got any major upgrade since 2010.

                      It looks like it runs quickly and fluid right now on Mame2003. Very unfortunate since this game is so cool!

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                        barbudreadmon @GreenHawk84
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                        @GreenHawk84 said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                        It looks like it runs quickly and fluid right now on Mame2003

                        With more accurate emulation to get rid of the glitches, it'll be slower, iirc it doesn't run full speed with mame2010 on rpi3.

                        FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                        • arcadez2003A
                          arcadez2003 @darknior
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                          @darknior said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                          Incredible, the hack has bean realized :D
                          Please, will you add it to MAME2003+ ... to play it on PI <3
                          Thanks a lot

                          https://github.com/originalgrego/FinalFightAE-Installer
                          https://www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php?topic=28073.60

                          I already have the prelim code setup for this one although there will likely be some trial and error till i suss out what CPS1 video mappings it will need
                          as this core's CPS1 video code is totally different to the current MAME sources the game was added to.

                          But i cant test any of the above or make progress until i can track down the correct rom as i dont have have the tools on my PC to make one as per the instructions

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                            barbudreadmon @arcadez2003
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                            @arcadez2003 FWIW, at the moment it's freezing (in intro) with FBNeo... not sure what's the problem, i'll need some help from dink on this one.

                            FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                            • arcadez2003A
                              arcadez2003 @GreenHawk84
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                              @GreenHawk84 said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                              @Darksavior said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                              @GreenHawk84 I've asked in the past and the answer was no. It'll break too much stuff or something. Get a pi4 and use mame2010,2015 or 2016.

                              Noted, I will have to see when Pi4 Retropie is official and steady.

                              @barbudreadmon said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                              @GreenHawk84 imho, proper ga2 emulation will require something more powerful than a pi3, whatever the emulator.

                              PS : ga2's graphic is still tagged as imperfect in latest mame : http://adb.arcadeitalia.net/dettaglio_mame.php?game_name=ga2&lang=en , i don't think this game's emulation got any major upgrade since 2010.

                              It looks like it runs quickly and fluid right now on Mame2003. Very unfortunate since this game is so cool!

                              The video code although imperfect is faster hence you get good performance in the older cores..............

                              0.97u4: Rewrote the System 32 sprite mixer layer to support accurate implementation of the alpha blending modes. Sprite shadows and several other effects are still not yet
                              implemented. "And it's much slower than before" <------

                              Using the xbox as an example we lost 40 to 50fps in the Sega System 32 and Multi 32 games by using the above video changes, so i had to back out and revert to using
                              the older video code as it was the difference between the games functioning or not, im sure alotta platforms that use this core would get a similar hit in the
                              performance dept.

                              Anyway the updated driver which they created to work with the newer video code has some incompatible input by tagging code and mirroring in the mem maps
                              which will always be the big stumbling block to anyone who attempts to backport it to this core but hey good luck to anyone who feels like taking it on.

                              Arcade Addict

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                              • arcadez2003A
                                arcadez2003 @barbudreadmon
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                                @barbudreadmon said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                                @arcadez2003 FWIW, at the moment it's freezing (in intro) with FBNeo... not sure what's the problem, i'll need some help from dink on this one.

                                @barbudreadmon i was going to suggest it might be the dips or the inputs but i see you've got it sorted now, need to ask ya a quick question though are you
                                able to coin up and start a game as player 3.?? as im finding the inputs for player 3 work fine i can start and play the game but only if player 1 or 2 has
                                coined up firstly as nothing happens if i try to add a coin for player 3.

                                Arcade Addict

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                                  barbudreadmon @arcadez2003
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                                  @arcadez2003 i confirm this behavior, do you know if the same happens with the mame version from https://github.com/originalgrego/mame ? Maybe the author of the hack didn't bother with this since ffight has no per player credit counter ?

                                  FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                                    barbudreadmon @arcadez2003
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                                    @arcadez2003 answering myself : considering there is no "Coin C" in dips, and the input test doesn't show a 3rd coin either, i'm almost sure the hack doesn't support a third coin input. I guess i'll need to clean up the input list to avoid confusion.

                                    FBNeo developer - github - forum

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                                    • arcadez2003A
                                      arcadez2003 @barbudreadmon
                                      last edited by arcadez2003

                                      @barbudreadmon said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

                                      @arcadez2003 answering myself : considering there is no "Coin C" in dips, and the input test doesn't show a 3rd coin either, i'm almost sure the hack doesn't support a third coin input. I guess i'll need to clean up the input list to avoid confusion.

                                      Yeah i know what you mean, i noticed the 3 player CPS1 games tend to use CPS1_COINAGE_2 so there is no Coin A or B but alas even with that setting it still wont coin up for
                                      player 3, i never got as far as checking the input test but anyway it's no big deal really as if you've rounded up three buddies to play this with ya coining up wont be an issue
                                      as they will have done it already.

                                      Thanks for confirming it's not an issue just on my end, although we'd maybe need to get someone try it in the current MAME builds just to be on the safe side here
                                      as if you notice while playing the game it does state insert coin for all the players not just 1 and 2, plus this means player 3 needs the other players to add a
                                      coin for em and what if they dont it's game over :)

                                      Arcade Addict

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                                      • arcadez2003A
                                        arcadez2003
                                        last edited by arcadez2003

                                        Alright Final Fight 30th Anniversary Edition is up and running is this core, i had to guess as to what sort of gfx mapping to use but it seems to be all good we also
                                        use custom samples for the Final Fight games in this core if you have em, so give the game a whirl and let me know if you think it's all good in the graphical
                                        and sound depts.

                                        Note only the main CPU and the Gfx roms are actually different from the original world version of this game, so for ease of use i've made it a clone and it will hang off
                                        our parent rom rather than the one in current MAME, what does this mean in practice nothing really other than you can just drop in the ffightae rom and it'll work a
                                        treat for ya's.

                                        Arcade Addict

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                                        • darkniorD
                                          darknior @arcadez2003
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                                          @arcadez2003 I see your push on GIT, thanks a lot :)

                                          https://github.com/libretro/mame2003-plus-libretro/commit/7d422450bb9cad9fb890231cd64010dd44fd42a6#commitcomment-36275427

                                          I will try to patch the rom to try it ;)

                                          Life is game, just play it !

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                                          • WeirdHW
                                            WeirdH
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                                            Hey, I was wondering if there's any chance to see Dogyuun, Batsugun or Shienryu ever working on m3+? Or is the Pi 3b+ just not equipped for that?

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