mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support

GreenHawk84

Hello,
I would greatly appreciate if someone were able to get Golden Axe Revenge of Death Adder working properly? Is there I way I can setup or contribute to a donation to help the cause?

Darksavior

@GreenHawk84 I've asked in the past and the answer was no. It'll break too much stuff or something. Get a pi4 and use mame2010,2015 or 2016.

barbudreadmon

@GreenHawk84 imho, proper ga2 emulation will require something more powerful than a pi3, whatever the emulator.

PS : ga2's graphic is still tagged as imperfect in latest mame : http://adb.arcadeitalia.net/dettaglio_mame.php?game_name=ga2&lang=en , i don't think this game's emulation got any major upgrade since 2010.

GreenHawk84

@Darksavior said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

@GreenHawk84 I've asked in the past and the answer was no. It'll break too much stuff or something. Get a pi4 and use mame2010,2015 or 2016.

Noted, I will have to see when Pi4 Retropie is official and steady.

@barbudreadmon said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

@GreenHawk84 imho, proper ga2 emulation will require something more powerful than a pi3, whatever the emulator.

PS : ga2's graphic is still tagged as imperfect in latest mame : http://adb.arcadeitalia.net/dettaglio_mame.php?game_name=ga2&lang=en , i don't think this game's emulation got any major upgrade since 2010.

It looks like it runs quickly and fluid right now on Mame2003. Very unfortunate since this game is so cool!

barbudreadmon

@GreenHawk84 said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

It looks like it runs quickly and fluid right now on Mame2003

With more accurate emulation to get rid of the glitches, it'll be slower, iirc it doesn't run full speed with mame2010 on rpi3.

arcadez2003

@darknior said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

Incredible, the hack has bean realized :D
Please, will you add it to MAME2003+ ... to play it on PI <3
Thanks a lot

https://github.com/originalgrego/FinalFightAE-Installer
https://www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php?topic=28073.60

I already have the prelim code setup for this one although there will likely be some trial and error till i suss out what CPS1 video mappings it will need
as this core's CPS1 video code is totally different to the current MAME sources the game was added to.

But i cant test any of the above or make progress until i can track down the correct rom as i dont have have the tools on my PC to make one as per the instructions

barbudreadmon

@arcadez2003 FWIW, at the moment it's freezing (in intro) with FBNeo... not sure what's the problem, i'll need some help from dink on this one.

arcadez2003

@GreenHawk84 said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

@Darksavior said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

@GreenHawk84 I've asked in the past and the answer was no. It'll break too much stuff or something. Get a pi4 and use mame2010,2015 or 2016.

Noted, I will have to see when Pi4 Retropie is official and steady.

@barbudreadmon said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

@GreenHawk84 imho, proper ga2 emulation will require something more powerful than a pi3, whatever the emulator.

PS : ga2's graphic is still tagged as imperfect in latest mame : http://adb.arcadeitalia.net/dettaglio_mame.php?game_name=ga2&lang=en , i don't think this game's emulation got any major upgrade since 2010.

It looks like it runs quickly and fluid right now on Mame2003. Very unfortunate since this game is so cool!

The video code although imperfect is faster hence you get good performance in the older cores..............

0.97u4: Rewrote the System 32 sprite mixer layer to support accurate implementation of the alpha blending modes. Sprite shadows and several other effects are still not yet
implemented. "And it's much slower than before" <------

Using the xbox as an example we lost 40 to 50fps in the Sega System 32 and Multi 32 games by using the above video changes, so i had to back out and revert to using
the older video code as it was the difference between the games functioning or not, im sure alotta platforms that use this core would get a similar hit in the
performance dept.

Anyway the updated driver which they created to work with the newer video code has some incompatible input by tagging code and mirroring in the mem maps
which will always be the big stumbling block to anyone who attempts to backport it to this core but hey good luck to anyone who feels like taking it on.

arcadez2003

@barbudreadmon said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

@arcadez2003 FWIW, at the moment it's freezing (in intro) with FBNeo... not sure what's the problem, i'll need some help from dink on this one.

@barbudreadmon i was going to suggest it might be the dips or the inputs but i see you've got it sorted now, need to ask ya a quick question though are you
able to coin up and start a game as player 3.?? as im finding the inputs for player 3 work fine i can start and play the game but only if player 1 or 2 has
coined up firstly as nothing happens if i try to add a coin for player 3.

barbudreadmon

@arcadez2003 i confirm this behavior, do you know if the same happens with the mame version from https://github.com/originalgrego/mame ? Maybe the author of the hack didn't bother with this since ffight has no per player credit counter ?

barbudreadmon

@arcadez2003 answering myself : considering there is no "Coin C" in dips, and the input test doesn't show a 3rd coin either, i'm almost sure the hack doesn't support a third coin input. I guess i'll need to clean up the input list to avoid confusion.

arcadez2003

@barbudreadmon said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

@arcadez2003 answering myself : considering there is no "Coin C" in dips, and the input test doesn't show a 3rd coin either, i'm almost sure the hack doesn't support a third coin input. I guess i'll need to clean up the input list to avoid confusion.

Yeah i know what you mean, i noticed the 3 player CPS1 games tend to use CPS1_COINAGE_2 so there is no Coin A or B but alas even with that setting it still wont coin up for
player 3, i never got as far as checking the input test but anyway it's no big deal really as if you've rounded up three buddies to play this with ya coining up wont be an issue
as they will have done it already.

Thanks for confirming it's not an issue just on my end, although we'd maybe need to get someone try it in the current MAME builds just to be on the safe side here
as if you notice while playing the game it does state insert coin for all the players not just 1 and 2, plus this means player 3 needs the other players to add a
coin for em and what if they dont it's game over :)

arcadez2003

Alright Final Fight 30th Anniversary Edition is up and running is this core, i had to guess as to what sort of gfx mapping to use but it seems to be all good we also
use custom samples for the Final Fight games in this core if you have em, so give the game a whirl and let me know if you think it's all good in the graphical
and sound depts.

Note only the main CPU and the Gfx roms are actually different from the original world version of this game, so for ease of use i've made it a clone and it will hang off
our parent rom rather than the one in current MAME, what does this mean in practice nothing really other than you can just drop in the ffightae rom and it'll work a
treat for ya's.

darknior

@arcadez2003 I see your push on GIT, thanks a lot :)

https://github.com/libretro/mame2003-plus-libretro/commit/7d422450bb9cad9fb890231cd64010dd44fd42a6#commitcomment-36275427

I will try to patch the rom to try it ;)

WeirdH

Hey, I was wondering if there's any chance to see Dogyuun, Batsugun or Shienryu ever working on m3+? Or is the Pi 3b+ just not equipped for that?

barbudreadmon

@WeirdH said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

Dogyuun, Batsugun or Shienryu

dogyuun & batsugun are toaplan games and should work pretty well with FBNeo on pi3b+.
shienryu is a stv game, aka a sega saturn arcade game, it's not gonna run full speed on pi3b+, and you would need a rather recent version of mame to play it (or kronos if we ever find a fix for https://github.com/FCare/Kronos/issues/676)

WeirdH

@barbudreadmon Cool, thanks. I'll mess around with FBNeo then.

arcadez2003

@WeirdH said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

Hey, I was wondering if there's any chance to see Dogyuun, Batsugun or Shienryu ever working on m3+? Or is the Pi 3b+ just not equipped for that?

We're missing the V25 CPU in this core, which is required to decrypt some of the sound roms for certain Toaplan 2 games, so although they work
Dogyuun, Grind Stormer, and V-Five have no sound, but it's not all bad news on the Toaplan front in MAME2003+.....................

Added support for a working version of FixEight
Fire Shark and Vimana now have full sound
Batsugun and Knuckle Bash now have partial sound
Added Knuckle Bash 2 which is a bootleg of the original game but with full sound
Ghox and Teki Paki will have full sound via Toaplan samples should you have em in your samples folder
And finally added new graphical code via ShmupMAME which gives the Toaplan 1 games a lovely performance boost

As for Shienryu you'd likely need to weld two Rpi's together and maybe you'd then have the power to run it :)

Clyde

@arcadez2003 said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

As for Shienryu you'd likely need to weld two Rpi's together and maybe you'd then have the power to run it :)

How about the RPi 4?

barbudreadmon

@Clyde said in mame2003-plus: hundreds of new games, improved input, features, new bugs - now with runahead support:

How about the RPi 4?

The only "saturn hardware" emulator that might perform correctly on pi4 atm is yabasanshiro, and it doesn't support stv games, however it should support the console version.