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Manual install on top of Buster Full

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    LogicalUnit
    last edited by 25 Mar 2020, 10:22

    Hi everyone,

    I have a Raspberry Pi 3 Model B, onto which I have installed Raspbian Buster Full (2020-03-13). My desktop environment is up and running. I have tried to manually install RetroPie by following the instructions here: https://retropie.org.uk/docs/Manual-Installation/

    I have performed a Basic Install, and the script seemed to complete.

    When I type "emulationstation" into the command line, I get:

    terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::logic_error'
    what(): basic_string::_M_construct null not valid
    Aborted

    Any help?

    Thank you

    PS I have increased GPU Memory to 256.

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      mitu Global Moderator
      last edited by 25 Mar 2020, 10:32

      Are you running EmulationStation from a desktop session ? I don't think this is supported or tested, a RetroPie installation doesn't use the desktop/X11 env.
      Try running EmulationStation from a text console and see if you get the same message.

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        LogicalUnit @mitu
        last edited by LogicalUnit 26 Mar 2020, 07:13

        @mitu thanks for the reply, how do I end my desktop session and get back to just command line?

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          mitu Global Moderator @LogicalUnit
          last edited by 26 Mar 2020, 07:52

          Use raspi-config and configure the system to auto-login to the console. If EmulationStation doesn't start automatically after a reboot, then use the setup script to enable the autostart of EmulationStation - see https://retropie.org.uk/docs/FAQ/#how-do-i-boot-to-the-desktop-or-kodi.

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            LogicalUnit @mitu
            last edited by 26 Mar 2020, 10:38

            @mitu so what I'm actually trying to set up is a Raspberry Pi with a desktop which I can use for web browsing and other apps, that can also run EmulationStation alongside SteamLink. When I boot, I would like to see the desktop. If I want to use EmulationStation, I would like to be able to enter a command or bash script that will switch over to RetroPie mode. When I'm finished, I'd like to be able to go back to the desktop.

            Is this possible or am I just crazy?

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              mitu Global Moderator @LogicalUnit
              last edited by 26 Mar 2020, 11:01

              @LogicalUnit said in Manual install on top of Buster Full:

              Is this possible or am I just crazy?

              It's possible - just need to find out how.

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                onebitcpu
                last edited by 26 Mar 2020, 11:42

                I found this on the forum, but have not tried it:
                https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/12713/run-emulationstation-from-x-script

                For my own setup I run boot into emulationstation, and launch a separate vnc desktop from /etc/rc.local with this command:
                su pi -c vncserver :1 >/dev/null 2>&1 &

                I can then use vnc to server:5901 to get a desktop when needed for file downloads or updates.

                Both my pi's run headless, and everything is done via ssh or vnc

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                  YFZdude
                  last edited by YFZdude 26 Mar 2020, 12:12

                  This is interesting. I have used a PC to run a fresh install of Ubuntu and just launched emulationstation from a terminal and it worked fine. Granted it was not a Pi so that could make a difference but my PC didn't seem to hesitate running ES just fine when launched from the desktop environment.

                  I've also done it from a VM install of Ubuntu. It never occurred to me that I would have to kill the desktop before launching.

                  Edit: The downside I discovered when running from the VM was the audio was delayed about a half second from the video images.

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                    mitu Global Moderator @YFZdude
                    last edited by 26 Mar 2020, 12:18

                    @YFZdude said in Manual install on top of Buster Full:

                    This is interesting. I have used a PC to run a fresh install of Ubuntu and just launched emulationstation from a terminal and it worked fine.

                    On a PC, EmulationStation is meant to be run from a desktop environment - but not on a PI.

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                      LogicalUnit
                      last edited by 27 Mar 2020, 07:56

                      Does anyone have a suggestion for where I might find out how to do this? I've Googled the error but didn't learn much.

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                        IceChes1
                        last edited by 27 Mar 2020, 23:54

                        You can always use startx to start the desktop from the text console.
                        My pi works fine with this configuration. I am not sure why your is messing up. My personal favorite fix to everything: copy your /home/pi/Retropie folder to your PC and then reinstall. Then reinstall Retropie, delete the new /home/pi/Retropie folder and replace it with the old one.

                        HOME CONSOLE
                        Pi 4
                        SanDisk 64 GB
                        Master branch install
                        3.5 amp CanaKit PSU
                        Logitech F310, Dell keyboard, Dell mouse, JetFlash Transcend 16 GB USB stick
                        HANDHELD
                        Pi 0 W
                        SanDisk 32 GB
                        Random image I found. Had a driver I needed.
                        IPEGA PG-9157 USB Receiver

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                          IceChes1
                          last edited by 27 Mar 2020, 23:54

                          Did I say reinstall twice? Oops.

                          HOME CONSOLE
                          Pi 4
                          SanDisk 64 GB
                          Master branch install
                          3.5 amp CanaKit PSU
                          Logitech F310, Dell keyboard, Dell mouse, JetFlash Transcend 16 GB USB stick
                          HANDHELD
                          Pi 0 W
                          SanDisk 32 GB
                          Random image I found. Had a driver I needed.
                          IPEGA PG-9157 USB Receiver

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                            LogicalUnit
                            last edited by LogicalUnit 28 Mar 2020, 00:24

                            Okay, I've made some progress. By running sudo raspi-config, I was able to go into Boot Options and switch to Console Autologin. Now when I boot the pi, I get a command prompt. From there, if I want the desktop, I run startx. When I'm done with the desktop, I can exit to command line. If I want EmulationStation, I just run emulationstation. Again, when I'm done, I can exit back to command line. Great!

                            My next issue is that I have a USB stick with a folder called retropie-mount. In here I have various ROMs and save state files. When I use the normal RetroPie image, all these ROMs are detected and added to EmulationStation. But right now, it's not finding any of them. Any idea how to make EmulationStation search a USB stick for ROMs?

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                              mitu Global Moderator @LogicalUnit
                              last edited by 28 Mar 2020, 04:41

                              @LogicalUnit You need to install and enable the usbromservice package from the RetroPie-Setup, it's in the optional packages section.

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                                LogicalUnit @mitu
                                last edited by 28 Mar 2020, 08:26

                                @mitu awesome, that did the trick! I now have RetroPie, SteamLink, and Linux desktop all running on Raspberry Pi :)

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