Ultimate Gloom and Alien Breed 3D2 on Amiberry

George Spiggott

@shavecat Thanks. I looked through the settings you provided and changed the CPU settings to 68030 + 68882 with JIT. The game works fine now, thanks.

It seems that the copy of Ultimate Gloom I have is an installer disk that needs an HDD to install the game onto. I have no idea how to set that up via Amiberry.

shavecat

@George-Spiggott
Glad to help :)
I have the same files for Gloom cd32 cue and iso here is the Uae file (hope u can get it working too )

config_description=
config_hardware=true
config_host=true
config_version=3.6.0
kbd_led_cap=-1
kbd_led_scr=-1
kbd_led_num=-1
gfx_fullscreen_ratio=100
gfx_correct_aspect=1
button_for_quit=16
button_for_menu=3
key_for_quit=0
key_for_menu=293
synchronize_clock=true
pandora.move_y=0
pandora.move_x=0
pandora.custom_r=-12
pandora.custom_l=-13
pandora.custom_y=0
pandora.custom_x=-11
pandora.custom_b=-10
pandora.custom_a=-9
pandora.custom_right=-8
pandora.custom_left=-7
pandora.custom_down=-6
pandora.custom_up=-5
pandora.custom_controls=1
pandora.tap_delay=10
pandora.hide_idle_led=0
pandora.cpu_speed=0
pandora.cd_path=/opt/retropie/emulators/amiberry/cd32/
pandora.hardfile_path=/opt/retropie/emulators/amiberry/
pandora.floppy_path=/opt/retropie/emulators/amiberry/disks/
pandora.rom_path=/opt/retropie/emulators/amiberry/kickstarts/
kickstart_rom_file_id=1E62D4A5,CD32 KS ROM v3.1
kickstart_ext_rom_file_id=87746BE2,CD32 extended ROM
amiberry.rom_path=/opt/retropie/emulators/amiberry/kickstarts/
amiberry.floppy_path=/opt/retropie/emulators/amiberry/disks/
amiberry.hardfile_path=/opt/retropie/emulators/amiberry/
amiberry.cd_path=/opt/retropie/emulators/amiberry/cd32/
; 
; *** Controller/Input Configuration
; 
joyport0=mouse
joyport0_autofire=none
joyport0_friendlyname=Mouse
joyport0_name=MOUSE0
; 
joyport1=joy1
joyport1_autofire=none
joyport1_mode=cd32joy
joyport1_friendlyname=PLAYSTATION(R)3 Controller
joyport1_name=JOY1
; 
; 
; 
input.joymouse_speed_analog=2
input.joymouse_speed_digital=10
input.joymouse_deadzone=33
input.joystick_deadzone=33
input.analog_joystick_multiplier=15
input.analog_joystick_offset=-1
input.mouse_speed=100
input.autofire_speed=0
kbd_lang=us
; 
; *** Host-Specific
; 
amiberry.vertical_offset=0
amiberry.hide_idle_led=0
amiberry.gfx_correct_aspect=0

amiberry.kbd_led_num=-1
amiberry.kbd_led_scr=-1
amiberry.scaling_method=-1
amiberry.use_analogue_remap=false
amiberry.use_retroarch_quit=true
amiberry.use_retroarch_menu=true
amiberry.use_retroarch_reset=false
; 
; *** Common / Paths
; 
use_gui=no
kickstart_rom_file=/home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/Amiga/CD32 KS ROM v3.1 rev 40.60 (512k).rom
kickstart_rom_file_id=1E62D4A5,CD32 KS ROM v3.1
kickstart_ext_rom_file=/home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/Amiga/CD32 extended ROM rev 40.60 (512k).rom
kickstart_ext_rom_file_id=87746BE2,CD32 extended ROM
flash_file=/opt/retropie/emulators/amiberry/cd32.nvr
cart_file=
; 
; *** Floppy Drives
; 
floppy0=
floppy0type=-1
floppy1=
floppy1type=-1
floppy2=
floppy3=
cdimage0=/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/amiga-data/Games_CD32/Gloom (CD32)/Gloom (1995)(Guildhall Leisure Services)[!].cue,image
nr_floppies=0
floppy_speed=100
; 
; *** Hard Drives
; 
; 
; *** CD / CD32
; 
cd_speed=100
cd32cd=true
cd32c2p=true
cd32nvram=true
; 
; *** Display / Screen Setup
; 
gfx_framerate=0
#gfx_width=768
#gfx_height=270
gfx_refreshrate=50
gfx_refreshrate_rtg=50
gfx_lores=false
gfx_resolution=hires
gfx_linemode=none
gfx_fullscreen_amiga=false
gfx_fullscreen_picasso=false
ntsc=false
; 
; *** CPU options
; 
cpu_speed=real
cpu_type=68ec020
cpu_model=68020
cpu_compatible=false
cpu_24bit_addressing=true
fpu_no_unimplemented=true
fpu_strict=true
compfpu=false
cachesize=0
; 
; *** Memory
; 
chipmem_size=4
z3mapping=real
fastmem_size=8
a3000mem_size=0
mbresmem_size=0
z3mem_size=0
z3mem_start=0x40000000
bogomem_size=0
rtg_modes=0x502
; 
; *** Chipset
; 
chipset=aga
chipset_refreshrate=50.000000
collision_level=playfields
chipset_compatible=CD32
rtc=none
ksmirror_e0=false
ksmirror_a8=true
cd32cd=true
cd32c2p=true
cd32nvram=true
immediate_blits=false
waiting_blits=automatic
fast_copper=false
; 
; *** Sound Options
; 
sound_output=exact
sound_channels=stereo
sound_stereo_separation=7
sound_stereo_mixing_delay=0
sound_frequency=44100
sound_interpol=none
sound_filter=off
sound_filter_type=enhanced
sound_volume_cd=0
; 
; *** Misc. Options
; 
bsdsocket_emu=false

George Spiggott

My Gloom CD32 works fine, thanks anyway. Ultimate Gloom is the problem.

I've been modifying the games settings in the whdload_db file. Does anyone know where I should send suggestions to update this?

shavecat

@George-Spiggott
Ultimate Gloom is Gloom 3 - Zombie Edition [AmigaCD] Right ?
So here u go working too -

config_description=
config_hardware=true
config_host=true
config_version=3.6.0
kbd_led_cap=-1
kbd_led_scr=-1
kbd_led_num=-1
gfx_fullscreen_ratio=100
gfx_correct_aspect=1
button_for_quit=16
button_for_menu=3
key_for_quit=0
key_for_menu=293
synchronize_clock=true
pandora.move_y=0
pandora.move_x=0
pandora.custom_r=0
pandora.custom_l=0
pandora.custom_y=0
pandora.custom_x=0
pandora.custom_b=0
pandora.custom_a=0
pandora.custom_right=0
pandora.custom_left=0
pandora.custom_down=0
pandora.custom_up=0
pandora.custom_controls=0
pandora.tap_delay=10
pandora.hide_idle_led=0
pandora.cpu_speed=0
pandora.cd_path=/opt/retropie/emulators/amiberry/cd32/
pandora.hardfile_path=/opt/retropie/emulators/amiberry/
pandora.floppy_path=/opt/retropie/emulators/amiberry/disks/
pandora.rom_path=/opt/retropie/emulators/amiberry/kickstarts/
kickstart_rom_file_id=1483A091,KS ROM v3.1 (A1200)
amiberry.rom_path=/opt/retropie/emulators/amiberry/kickstarts/
amiberry.floppy_path=/opt/retropie/emulators/amiberry/disks/
amiberry.hardfile_path=/opt/retropie/emulators/amiberry/
amiberry.cd_path=/opt/retropie/emulators/amiberry/cd32/
; 
; *** Controller/Input Configuration
; 
joyport0=mouse
joyport0_autofire=none
joyport0_friendlyname=Mouse
joyport0_name=MOUSE0
; 
joyport1=joy1
joyport1_autofire=none
joyport1_friendlyname=PLAYSTATION(R)3 Controller
joyport1_name=JOY1
; 
; 
; 
input.joymouse_speed_analog=2
input.joymouse_speed_digital=10
input.joymouse_deadzone=33
input.joystick_deadzone=33
input.analog_joystick_multiplier=15
input.analog_joystick_offset=-1
input.mouse_speed=100
input.autofire_speed=0
kbd_lang=us
; 
; *** Host-Specific
; 
amiberry.vertical_offset=0
amiberry.hide_idle_led=0
amiberry.gfx_correct_aspect=0

amiberry.kbd_led_num=-1
amiberry.kbd_led_scr=-1
amiberry.scaling_method=-1
amiberry.use_analogue_remap=false
amiberry.use_retroarch_quit=true
amiberry.use_retroarch_menu=true
amiberry.use_retroarch_reset=false
; 
; *** Common / Paths
; 
use_gui=no
kickstart_rom_file=/home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/Amiga/kick31.rom
kickstart_rom_file_id=1483A091,KS ROM v3.1 (A1200)
kickstart_ext_rom_file=
ide_mb_rom_file=:ENABLED
flash_file=
cart_file=
; 
; *** Floppy Drives
; 
floppy0=
floppy1=
floppy1type=-1
floppy2=
floppy3=
nr_floppies=1
floppy_speed=800
; 
; *** Hard Drives
; 
hardfile2=rw,DH0:/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/amiga-data/Games_HDF/Gloom 3 - Zombie Edition AmigaCD.hdf,32,1,2,512,0,,uae0
uaehf0=hdf,rw,DH0:/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/amiga-data/Games_HDF/Gloom 3 - Zombie Edition AmigaCD.hdf,32,1,2,512,0,,uae0
; 
; *** CD / CD32
; 
cd_speed=100
; 
; *** Display / Screen Setup
; 
gfx_framerate=0
#gfx_width=720
#gfx_height=284
gfx_refreshrate=50
gfx_refreshrate_rtg=50
gfx_lores=false
gfx_resolution=hires
gfx_linemode=none
gfx_fullscreen_amiga=false
gfx_fullscreen_picasso=false
ntsc=false
; 
; *** CPU options
; 
finegrain_cpu_speed=1024
cpu_type=68ec020
cpu_model=68020
cpu_compatible=false
cpu_24bit_addressing=true
fpu_no_unimplemented=true
fpu_strict=true
compfpu=true
cachesize=0
; 
; *** Memory
; 
chipmem_size=4
z3mapping=real
fastmem_size=8
a3000mem_size=0
mbresmem_size=0
z3mem_size=0
z3mem_start=0x40000000
bogomem_size=0
rtg_modes=0x502
; 
; *** Chipset
; 
chipset=aga
chipset_refreshrate=50.000000
collision_level=playfields
chipset_compatible=Generic
fatgary=0
ramsey=15
immediate_blits=false
fast_copper=false
; 
; *** Sound Options
; 
sound_output=exact
sound_channels=stereo
sound_stereo_separation=7
sound_stereo_mixing_delay=0
sound_frequency=44100
sound_interpol=none
sound_filter=off
sound_filter_type=standard
sound_volume_cd=20
; 
; *** Misc. Options
; 
bsdsocket_emu=false

aidy80's

@George-Spiggott Hey George, I've managed to get Alien Breed 3D 2 working at an acceptable level by enabling the 'fast copper' setting and in the CPU settings selecting either turbo or fastest setting in Amiberry. I was unable to get the Ultimate Gloom ISO files that I located to work, maybe you and I have the same ISO? Never the less I located another version in .zip format, I think from an Amiga FPS History page that covered all sorts of wonderful reading about FPS games on the Amiga and Gloom mods. Ultimate Gloom is also referred to as Gloom 3 zombie edition sometimes too. I believe the author made public domain in 2013.

aidy80's

@George-Spiggott Control wise I think I had to choose my PS3 controller in the 'input' setting of Port 1 in the Amiberry menu too and then in 'custom controls' I had to choose PS3 controller in 'input' device'.

George Spiggott

Thanks @aidy80-s. I have already solved all my problems with AB3D2 thanks to @shavecat.

Most of my WHDLoad/.LHA controls problems have been solved by changing the to Playstation 3/CD32 pad in port 1. There must be a way to force Amiberry to do this for all games.

I may have a crack at getting Ultimate Gloom to work this weekend. In the mean time I have discovered Fears. The CD32 version runs well on Amiberry.

aidy80's

@George-Spiggott Glad to hear you had some success! 😎

shavecat

@George-Spiggott
I have all the Amiga games working well ,
if u need any more config just say ;)
(even got the Payback AmigaCD running well )

George Spiggott

@shavecat Thanks. I solved my Gloom problem, Ultimate Gloom (AKA Gloom 3 Zombie Edition) isn't even the game I wanted in the end. The game I wanted was Gloom Deluxe. I now have an .ADF version of this game. Sadly there seem to be no WHDLoad or CD32 version in existence.

shavecat

@George-Spiggott
Gloom Deluxe [ADF].uae -

config_description=
config_hardware=true
config_host=true
config_version=3.6.0
kbd_led_cap=-1
kbd_led_scr=-1
kbd_led_num=-1
gfx_fullscreen_ratio=100
gfx_correct_aspect=1
button_for_quit=16
button_for_menu=3
key_for_quit=0
key_for_menu=293
synchronize_clock=true
pandora.move_y=0
pandora.move_x=0
pandora.custom_r=0
pandora.custom_l=0
pandora.custom_y=0
pandora.custom_x=0
pandora.custom_b=0
pandora.custom_a=0
pandora.custom_right=0
pandora.custom_left=0
pandora.custom_down=0
pandora.custom_up=0
pandora.custom_controls=0
pandora.tap_delay=10
pandora.hide_idle_led=0
pandora.cpu_speed=0
pandora.cd_path=/opt/retropie/emulators/amiberry/cd32/
pandora.hardfile_path=/opt/retropie/emulators/amiberry/
pandora.floppy_path=/opt/retropie/emulators/amiberry/disks/
pandora.rom_path=/opt/retropie/emulators/amiberry/kickstarts/
kickstart_rom_file_id=1483A091,KS ROM v3.1 (A1200)
amiberry.rom_path=/opt/retropie/emulators/amiberry/kickstarts/
amiberry.floppy_path=/opt/retropie/emulators/amiberry/disks/
amiberry.hardfile_path=/opt/retropie/emulators/amiberry/
amiberry.cd_path=/opt/retropie/emulators/amiberry/cd32/
; 
; *** Controller/Input Configuration
; 
joyport0=mouse
joyport0_autofire=none
joyport0_friendlyname=Mouse
joyport0_name=MOUSE0
; 
joyport1=joy1
joyport1_autofire=none
joyport1_friendlyname=PLAYSTATION(R)3 Controller
joyport1_name=JOY1
; 
; 
; 
input.joymouse_speed_analog=2
input.joymouse_speed_digital=10
input.joymouse_deadzone=33
input.joystick_deadzone=33
input.analog_joystick_multiplier=15
input.analog_joystick_offset=-1
input.mouse_speed=100
input.autofire_speed=0
kbd_lang=us
; 
; *** Host-Specific
; 
amiberry.vertical_offset=0
amiberry.hide_idle_led=0
amiberry.gfx_correct_aspect=0

amiberry.kbd_led_num=-1
amiberry.kbd_led_scr=-1
amiberry.scaling_method=-1
amiberry.use_analogue_remap=false
amiberry.use_retroarch_quit=true
amiberry.use_retroarch_menu=true
amiberry.use_retroarch_reset=false
; 
; *** Common / Paths
; 
use_gui=no
kickstart_rom_file=/home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/Amiga/kick31.rom
kickstart_rom_file_id=1483A091,KS ROM v3.1 (A1200)
kickstart_ext_rom_file=
ide_mb_rom_file=:ENABLED
flash_file=
cart_file=
; 
; *** Floppy Drives
; 
floppy0=/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/amiga-data/Games_ADF/Gloom Deluxe_Disk1.adf
floppy1=/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/amiga-data/Games_ADF/Gloom Deluxe_Disk2.adf
floppy2=
floppy3=
nr_floppies=2
floppy_speed=800
; 
; *** Hard Drives
; 
; 
; *** CD / CD32
; 
cd_speed=100
; 
; *** Display / Screen Setup
; 
gfx_framerate=0
#gfx_width=720
#gfx_height=284
gfx_refreshrate=50
gfx_refreshrate_rtg=50
gfx_lores=false
gfx_resolution=hires
gfx_linemode=none
gfx_fullscreen_amiga=false
gfx_fullscreen_picasso=false
ntsc=false
; 
; *** CPU options
; 
finegrain_cpu_speed=1024
cpu_type=68ec020
cpu_model=68020
cpu_compatible=false
cpu_24bit_addressing=true
fpu_no_unimplemented=true
fpu_strict=true
compfpu=true
cachesize=0
; 
; *** Memory
; 
chipmem_size=4
z3mapping=real
fastmem_size=8
a3000mem_size=0
mbresmem_size=0
z3mem_size=0
z3mem_start=0x40000000
bogomem_size=0
rtg_modes=0x502
; 
; *** Chipset
; 
chipset=aga
chipset_refreshrate=50.000000
collision_level=playfields
chipset_compatible=Generic
fatgary=0
ramsey=15
immediate_blits=false
fast_copper=false
; 
; *** Sound Options
; 
sound_output=exact
sound_channels=stereo
sound_stereo_separation=7
sound_stereo_mixing_delay=0
sound_frequency=44100
sound_interpol=none
sound_filter=off
sound_filter_type=standard
sound_volume_cd=20
; 
; *** Misc. Options
; 
bsdsocket_emu=false

And No ,
No CD32 version .

George Spiggott

@shavecat How did you circumvent the mouse operated game select screen when the game boots?

shavecat

@George-Spiggott
Really dont know i have an image pi 3 amiga .
That i just copy all of is amiga folder and config opt amiga and sort it to work with my official retropie .
Got to many amiga games haha

But its booting from Workbench Screen Then i get Glood setup Utility (If it helps maybe)

George Spiggott

@shavecat I may need to seek out a different copy then. Mine works it's just a PITA.

shavecat

@George-Spiggott
I guess so ...
if there is a way i will send it to u :)

George Spiggott

@shavecat Thanks. However that may be dangerous talk round these parts. This game's source code is available for free on Github. I'm not sure what that actually means legally in regard to redistribution.

https://github.com/earok/GloomAmiga

Also I'm running this game with a simulated 030 with maths co-processor on fastest CPU settings (more than 25mhz) with 4MB if RAM. I have to wonder how much it would have cost to run an Amiga that would run this game full screen, full speed back when it was released.

shavecat

@George-Spiggott
Too much afford for a game that u will play 5min or so ;)

George Spiggott

To bring this thread to its full conclusion I finally got round to modifying my copy of Gloom Deluxe.

I made an HD floppy disk image file and used Workbench to copy the contents of both disks to this file. I then modified the s/startup-sequence file to boot straight into the game without loading the setup program. I used ED from the AmigaDOS Shell to do this.

I now have a single disk version of Gloom Deluxe that works perfectly.