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    Underscan while playing games, but not on Emulationstation

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    • GetKeyOpenDoorG
      GetKeyOpenDoor
      last edited by GetKeyOpenDoor

      I've had underscan issues and fixed those by tweaking the values in /boot/config.txt, so both Emulationstation an Kodi are running without black bars.
      But when I start a game the black bars return, doesn't matter which emulator.
      Is there a way to fix this?

      changes to my config.txt consists of

      overscan_left=-8
      overscan_right=-8
      overscan_top=-18
      overscan_bottom=-18
      overscan_scale=1

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      • edmaul69E
        edmaul69 @GetKeyOpenDoor
        last edited by

        @GetKeyOpenDoor when you choose a game are you pressing a button to go into the configuration to change video settings? If you have a 1080p tv you need to set it to 1920x1080. Anything less like say 640x480 gives you bars on the top and bottom.

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        • GetKeyOpenDoorG
          GetKeyOpenDoor @edmaul69
          last edited by GetKeyOpenDoor

          @edmaul69 I only changed the framebuffer size, tried messing with video display setting for n64 (set it to 640x480) but after I found that it makes no difference compared to a higher res i reverted it.
          For the other emu's i haven't touched the video settings.

          edit: Just tested 1920*1080 and still have small black bars top and bottom

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          • edmaul69E
            edmaul69 @GetKeyOpenDoor
            last edited by edmaul69

            @GetKeyOpenDoor yeah n64 is different in that way but retroarch emulators (99% of the emulators) will go full top to bottom if you set the correct video output. (Maybe not psx and psp though) Most other emus do as well.

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            • GetKeyOpenDoorG
              GetKeyOpenDoor @edmaul69
              last edited by

              @edmaul69 I tested with GBA on 1920*1080, but still a little underscan.
              I'll test some other emu's later.

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              • GetKeyOpenDoorG
                GetKeyOpenDoor
                last edited by

                Tested with lr-catsfc, lr-snes9x, lr-mgba and lr-picodrive
                All still have a little bit underscan with the video mode set to 1920*1080 (or anything else)

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                • edmaul69E
                  edmaul69 @GetKeyOpenDoor
                  last edited by

                  @GetKeyOpenDoor ok so looking at my config.txt i have the overscan settings set but i have disable overscan hashtagged out. So i would try that if you dont.

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                  • GetKeyOpenDoorG
                    GetKeyOpenDoor @edmaul69
                    last edited by GetKeyOpenDoor

                    @edmaul69 #disable_overscan=1 and disable_overscan=0 are exactly the same thing, shouldn't make a difference for this case. It's just for enabling/disabling your scan settings.
                    I mean, if I disable it, there are huge black bars top/bottom/let/right on both emulationstation and kodi. With these setting they are gone, and only small bars are present on emulators

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                    • edmaul69E
                      edmaul69 @GetKeyOpenDoor
                      last edited by

                      @GetKeyOpenDoor so are you pressing "a" or whatever is button "0" after you select a game to go into the configuration and changing the video output there? I assume you are but just double checking.

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                      • GetKeyOpenDoorG
                        GetKeyOpenDoor @edmaul69
                        last edited by

                        @edmaul69 You mean the runcommand? Where you press a button and then you come into the blue screen window where you can select emu's, resolution, videomode etc.
                        Yeah. I tested several emu's there with 1920*1080 video mode

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                        • edmaul69E
                          edmaul69 @GetKeyOpenDoor
                          last edited by

                          @GetKeyOpenDoor ok. I have no clue. Have you tested on another tv?

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                          • GetKeyOpenDoorG
                            GetKeyOpenDoor @edmaul69
                            last edited by

                            @edmaul69 I don't have another tv to test on right now.
                            It's not a major problem though, as the underscan on emu's is a lot less than emulationstation on first setup. It's just weird that fixing the underscan doesn't necessarily fixes it everywhere.

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                            • edmaul69E
                              edmaul69 @GetKeyOpenDoor
                              last edited by edmaul69

                              @GetKeyOpenDoor it is weird to me as well. I havent had an issue myself on the tvs i have tested on. You could try messing with the aspect and picture buttons on your tv's remote. Some tvs you can completely remove the black bars that way.

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                              • dankcushionsD
                                dankcushions Global Moderator @GetKeyOpenDoor
                                last edited by

                                @GetKeyOpenDoor could you post a photo of the issue please?

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                                • GetKeyOpenDoorG
                                  GetKeyOpenDoor @dankcushions
                                  last edited by

                                  @dankcushions I've added the small red lines to point out the underscan because it was pretty hard to get a clear picture
                                  underscan

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                                  • dankcushionsD
                                    dankcushions Global Moderator @GetKeyOpenDoor
                                    last edited by

                                    @GetKeyOpenDoor that is very small :)

                                    IMO revert all your runcommand settings to default (which I think you already have?)

                                    you have to be careful as some games do have borders. eg, super street fighter 2 on the SNES has a small border (as it did on CRT tvs). i've been using for my tests super mario world on lr-snes9x-next, and that game goes all the way to the edge for me (just like emulationstation). there's also a setting video_crop_overscan = "true" in my /opt/retropie/configs/all/retroarch.cfg but that may just be the default.

                                    my config.txt settings are:

                                    # uncomment this if your display has a black border of unused pixels visible
                                    # and your display can output without overscan
                                    # disable_overscan=1
                                    
                                    # uncomment the following to adjust overscan. Use positive numbers if console
                                    # goes off screen, and negative if there is too much border
                                    overscan_left=-8
                                    overscan_right=-8
                                    overscan_top=-24
                                    overscan_bottom=-24
                                    overscan_scale=1
                                    

                                    i doubt those left/right/top/bottom numbers will be right for your tv, but i just kept tweaking them until emulationstation went right to the edge (and not over).

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                                    • GetKeyOpenDoorG
                                      GetKeyOpenDoor @dankcushions
                                      last edited by

                                      @dankcushions It's is very small, yes. Tbh it's hardly noticeable if you don't pay attention to it and just play the games. It's just that I was wondering why fixing the bigger underscan issues I had didn't completely fix this. (Because it's present on all emu's I tested)
                                      Leaving me to believe the way emulators render their images is different from Emulationstation/Kodi, or something (not really sure what I'm talking about lol), so I thought there were maybe separate setting somewhere you could edit for emu's.

                                      video_crop_overscan = "true" is also present in my all/retroarch.cfg

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                                      • edmaul69E
                                        edmaul69 @dankcushions
                                        last edited by

                                        @dankcushions yeah those settings are a good start. For both tv's i have hooked my pi to use -5 -5 -25 -25

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