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    • mituM
      mitu Global Moderator @Folly
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      @Folly said in new scriptmodules (lr-vice-xvic, gsplus, proper lr-mess integration!):

      Although it works, I can't use the "tab key" to map the joystick.

      Try pressing Scroll-Lock and then try Tab.

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        Folly
        last edited by

        @mitu

        Thanks.

        That did the trick :-)

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          Folly @DTEAM
          last edited by Folly

          @DTEAM said in new scriptmodules (lr-vice-xvic, gsplus, proper lr-mess integration!):

          Quick question. Is anyone able to run GP32 at normal speed or almost. If so, what is the configuration used?

          I improved the speed with 30% to about 41% with this setting in the custom-core-options.cfg :

          mame_cpu_overclock = "30"
          

          You can check the improvement with F11
          with F8 and F9 you can change the frameskipping, but that doesn't do much.

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          • roslofR
            roslof
            last edited by

            Moved from From another thread (this one seems appropriate):

            @roslof posted:
            @DTEAMcurious, have you tried Microvision (microvsn)? I installed it and tuned it. Looks perfect, but I cannot get the control knob to work. "Hap" from the MAME team apparently made this work with MESS/MAME v0.222, but I've tried everything (including adding -mouse to the emulator command-line arguments.
            Just can't get the knob emulated with joystick, mouse, keyboard...
            Hoping somebody has had better luck.

            @DTEAM responded:
            @roslof
            The only way I found to set the controller for microvision (microvsn ) is to set It blindly (tab + Second menu) with wrong buttons, because the menu is not visuable. After, come back in the file (rom folder) via FileZilla to set the good commands.

            Thank you @DTEAM. Your advice helped, but I'm still stuck. Execution here isn't clear. Since [as you said] you can't hit Tab in-game and see what you're doing (16x16 scaled res) you tinkered and created a file, then manually edited it. I wouldn't know what settings to use if I did that.

            I tried something different, hoping for the same results:

            1. When running the game hit Esc for the MESS system menu
            2. Select Microvision from the list
            3. Hit Tab and select Configure Options
            4. Select General Inputs
            5. Select Player 1 Controls

            I'm still not sure what to map. I've tried Mouse X Analog, Dial Analog, Paddle Analog and Positional Analog. So far, can't get dial response.

            Would you be kind enough to share your emulators.cfg settings for microvsn and also your MAME settings for the controls? Will help me zero-in on the issue, and then I can make an FAQ for this system.

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              Folly
              last edited by Folly

              @roslof

              If I read everything correctly you can't see the lr-mess UI because of the ultra low resoluton of "microvision" right ?

              With this option change, I think you will be able to see the full UI.

              Try setting this on enabled in /opt/retropie/configs/microvsn/custom-core-options.cfg :

              mame_alternate_renderer = "enabled"
              

              You can also do this in the RetroArch menu ( F1 -> options )

              I did not try anything else yet, but I think you should go to the settings "Input (this Machine)"

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                Folly
                last edited by Folly

                @roslof

                Found this :
                https://videogamecritic.com/extras/reviews/microvision.htm?ex=1
                Here you can find the button layout for each game.
                So you can see, every game has a different configuration, depending on the plastic cover.

                The buttons are arranged in this way and normally mapped to the keyboard as this :

                X-X-X => 1 -2 - 3
                X-X-X => Q -W-E
                X-X-X => A -S -D
                X-X-X => Z -X -C
                PDL => JOY 1 LSX or MOUSE X
                PDL inc/dec => LEFT and RIGHT

                I saw that the paddle number was drifting between 0 and 255 if you use LEFT or RIGHT and stop pressing.
                I think that's the same drifting as with the Philips CD-I.
                To stop this you have to enable the mouse in /opt/retropie/configs/microvsn/custom-core-options.cfg :

                mame_mouse_enable = "enabled"
                

                I tried to assign something different to Paddle Analog = JOY 1 LSX or MOUSE X.
                But nothing worked.
                Just like with Philips CD-I, you can only use the mouse when you boot into CLI => emulationstation
                ( mouse does not work if you run emulationstation from the Desktop enviroment )
                Other settings can be changed though, in both situations.

                Beware, A,S,Z,LEFT and RIGHT, on the keyboard are in RetroArch also Joystick-buttons. So if you are assigning these, these become double in :
                /opt/retropie/configs/microvsn/microvsn.cfg
                You can edit this file manually though, and remove the "doubles".

                Hope this information helps !

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                  Folly
                  last edited by Folly

                  @roslof

                  At first I could not get the paddle working.
                  So I tried a few settings.

                  This setting made the paddle working with LEFT and RIGHT

                  lr-mess UI (TAB) => Machine Configuration => Paddle Hardware = Yes

                  Tried this with pinball.
                  pinball.png

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                  • DTEAMD
                    DTEAM
                    last edited by DTEAM

                    My microvsn.cfg file. It's probably different for your controller, but you can see the number of buttons to set.

                    <?xml version="1.0"?>
                    <!-- This file is autogenerated; comments and unknown tags will be stripped -->
                    <mameconfig version="10">
                        <system name="microvsn">
                            <input>
                                <port tag=":COL0" type="P1_BUTTON10" mask="1" defvalue="0">
                                    <newseq type="standard">
                                        JOYCODE_1_BUTTON9
                                    </newseq>
                                </port>
                                <port tag=":COL0" type="P1_BUTTON7" mask="2" defvalue="0">
                                    <newseq type="standard">
                                        JOYCODE_1_BUTTON10
                                    </newseq>
                                </port>
                                <port tag=":COL0" type="P1_BUTTON4" mask="4" defvalue="0">
                                    <newseq type="standard">
                                        JOYCODE_1_BUTTON1
                                    </newseq>
                                </port>
                                <port tag=":COL0" type="P1_BUTTON1" mask="8" defvalue="0">
                                    <newseq type="standard">
                                        JOYCODE_1_BUTTON2
                                    </newseq>
                                </port>
                                <port tag=":COL1" type="P1_BUTTON11" mask="1" defvalue="0">
                                    <newseq type="standard">
                                        JOYCODE_1_BUTTON5
                                    </newseq>
                                </port>
                                <port tag=":COL1" type="P1_BUTTON8" mask="2" defvalue="0">
                                    <newseq type="standard">
                                        JOYCODE_1_BUTTON11
                                    </newseq>
                                </port>
                                <port tag=":COL1" type="P1_BUTTON5" mask="4" defvalue="0">
                                    <newseq type="standard">
                                        JOYCODE_1_START
                                    </newseq>
                                </port>
                                <port tag=":COL1" type="P1_BUTTON2" mask="8" defvalue="0">
                                    <newseq type="standard">
                                        JOYCODE_1_BUTTON12
                                    </newseq>
                                </port>
                                <port tag=":COL2" type="P1_BUTTON12" mask="1" defvalue="0">
                                    <newseq type="standard">
                                        JOYCODE_1_BUTTON10
                                    </newseq>
                                </port>
                                <port tag=":COL2" type="P1_BUTTON9" mask="2" defvalue="0">
                                    <newseq type="standard">
                                        JOYCODE_1_BUTTON5
                                    </newseq>
                                </port>
                                <port tag=":COL2" type="P1_BUTTON6" mask="4" defvalue="0">
                                    <newseq type="standard">
                                        JOYCODE_1_BUTTON3
                                    </newseq>
                                </port>
                                <port tag=":COL2" type="P1_BUTTON3" mask="8" defvalue="0">
                                    <newseq type="standard">
                                        JOYCODE_1_BUTTON4
                                    </newseq>
                                </port>
                                <port tag=":PADDLE" type="P1_PADDLE" mask="255" defvalue="128">
                                    <newseq type="standard">
                                        JOYCODE_1_SELECT
                                    </newseq>
                                    <newseq type="increment">
                                        JOYCODE_1_HAT1UP
                                    </newseq>
                                    <newseq type="decrement">
                                        JOYCODE_1_HAT1DOWN
                                    </newseq>
                                </port>
                            </input>
                            <image_directories>
                                <device instance="cartridge" directory="/home/pi" />
                            </image_directories>
                        </system>
                    </mameconfig>
                    
                    
                    
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                    • roslofR
                      roslof @Folly
                      last edited by roslof

                      @Folly said in new scriptmodules (lr-vice-xvic, gsplus, proper lr-mess integration!):

                      Try setting this on enabled in /opt/retropie/configs/microvsn/custom-core-options.cfg :
                      mame_alternate_renderer = "enabled"

                      You can also do this in the RetroArch menu ( F1 -> options )

                      This worked great! Thank you for the tip, Folly! I can now see that "Paddle Analog" settings are configurable.

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                      • roslofR
                        roslof
                        last edited by roslof

                        @DTEAM @Folly your advice was excellent. I now have analog working correctly and mapped all buttons to a controller. Will document.

                        Cheers!

                        microvision.jpg

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                          zerojay @roslof
                          last edited by

                          @roslof said in new scriptmodules (lr-vice-xvic, gsplus, proper lr-mess integration!):

                          @DTEAM @Folly your advice was excellent. I now have analog working correctly and mapped all buttons to a controller. Will document.

                          Cheers!

                          microvision.jpg

                          Well, I guess I have a new console to add to my RetroPie then.

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                          • roslofR
                            roslof
                            last edited by roslof

                            One last thing with Microvision (microvsn) using this MESS script.

                            There is a TMS1100 PLA Type setting. Its default value is "Auto", with options for "0" and "1".

                            I noticed games like Alien Raiders & Vegas Slots fail to render correctly with "Auto" and must be set to Type 1. Of course with this script/system, if you change "Auto" to "1", it changes all Microvision games upon exit, breaking the games that require "0".

                            I am unaware of and MESS command-line options to change TMS1100 PLA Type. Has anybody tried to solve for this?

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                            • DTEAMD
                              DTEAM
                              last edited by DTEAM

                              Right now, l’m running those unusual non-keyboard Machines with Lr-Mess on my Pi4. Did I forget some Machines ?

                              RCA Studio 2
                              Bally Astrocade
                              Arcadia-2001
                              CreatiVision
                              Super Cassette Vision
                              Dreamcast Virtual Memory unit
                              Microvision
                              Adventure Vision
                              Game Pocket Computer
                              Game Master
                              Gamate
                              Mega duck
                              Supervision
                              Tiger Handheld Electronics Tiger Game-com (sorry, my mistake)
                              Super Acan
                              GP32
                              Casio PV-1000
                              GX4000 Amstrad
                              Casio loopy
                              FM Towns Marty
                              Philips CD-I
                              Jaguar
                              Bandai Super Vision 8000

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                                Folly @roslof
                                last edited by Folly

                                EDIT :
                                Read this post on 10-02-2021 again.
                                Not tested! But I think we can use this solution for this problem :
                                https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/25576/new-scriptmodules-lr-vice-xvic-gsplus-proper-lr-mess-integration/377

                                @roslof said in new scriptmodules (lr-vice-xvic, gsplus, proper lr-mess integration!):

                                One last thing with Microvision (microvsn) using this MESS script.

                                There is a TMS1100 PLA Type setting. Its default value is "Auto", with options for "0" and "1".

                                I noticed games like Alien Raiders & Vegas Slots fail to render correctly with "Auto" and must be set to Type 1. Of course with this script/system, if you change "Auto" to "1", it changes all Microvision games upon exit, breaking the games that require "0".

                                I am unaware of and MESS command-line options to change TMS1100 PLA Type. Has anybody tried to solve for this?

                                @roslof @DTEAM @zerojay

                                Nice to hear it's working now.
                                The list of working consoles is becoming impressive ;-)

                                About the "TMS1100 PLA Type setting" :

                                Before we used valerino's scripts, the config files of lr-mess were placed in a mame directory within the directory from where game was. So it was possible to place games in different directory's and have different config files.

                                Now all the config files are in 1 place which is nice, but it has this drawback.

                                Perhaps there is a way valerino's script can deal with this, for now i don't know.

                                Though it would be nice if this could be added because many games require different configs.

                                @zerojay is the "script-man" :
                                Could you take a deeper look into this ?

                                But, if you all agree, this is basically an lr-mess "Auto" issue for more setting. Just like the "Paddle Hardware = Auto" not working for me.

                                Then again you could try to use a different rom. I read that the CPU of microvision is within the cartridge of the game. In time they switched CPU's. So there must be game roms written for different CPU's. I think this could be a solution also.

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                                • DTEAMD
                                  DTEAM @Folly
                                  last edited by DTEAM

                                  RCA Studio 2
                                  Bally Astrocade
                                  Arcadia-2001
                                  CreatiVision
                                  Super Cassette Vision
                                  Dreamcast Virtual Memory unit
                                  Microvision
                                  Adventure Vision
                                  Game Pocket Computer
                                  Game Master
                                  Gamate
                                  Mega duck
                                  Supervision
                                  Tiger Handheld Electronics Tiger Game-com (sorry, my mistake)
                                  Super Acan
                                  GP32
                                  Casio PV-1000
                                  GX4000 Amstrad
                                  Casio loopy
                                  FM Towns Marty
                                  Philips CD-I
                                  Jaguar
                                  Bandai Super Vision 8000

                                  @Folly said in new scriptmodules (lr-vice-xvic, gsplus, proper lr-mess integration!):

                                  The list of working consoles is becoming impressive ;-)

                                  I installed them manually and they all work on my Pi4. Having a script for the whole list would be great.
                                  The only comments I have are GP32 is really slow, SuperAcan seems to be in development and only the first game works (Boom Zoo), Casio Loopy has grafx issues (I haven't explored yet), not playable at the moment .
                                  All others are 100% functional.
                                  I didn't put the kids' machines like Sega Pico and the ones in development that don't work like Hyperscan or Samsung Nuon.
                                  I don't remember if Apple Bandai Pippin emulator is in development or if It works, but I didn't install this Machine.

                                  Here is a teaser for Tiger Game-comHandheld Electronics (Batman & Robin) (-;
                                  For Tiger Handheld Electronics and Tiger R-Zone, games are in the MAME 0.225 Romset and can be played with MAME directly. Sorry for the confusion

                                  IMG_2999.jpg
                                  alt text

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                                    Folly @DTEAM
                                    last edited by

                                    @DTEAM

                                    Your teaser looks fantastic.
                                    If I have some time, I will try these other consoles you mentioned.

                                    Having a script for the whole list would be great.

                                    As we are here in the ideas and dev section I agree it should be nice if we all could improve some things.
                                    What kind of improvements would you like to see in the scripts ?

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                                    • DTEAMD
                                      DTEAM @Folly
                                      last edited by DTEAM

                                      @Folly
                                      I am not good at programming. I am just able to understand scripts and install stuff with copy and paste.

                                      The problem is that Lr-Mess is treated as a single emulator in Retropie and its performance is uneven between the machines it offers. I think it's great that people come up with scripts for certain systems. These scripts should, after some testing, be part of the experimental or optional menu as a single system or if somebody install Lr-Mess from a precompiled file, It should be already set for the system list above. For Lr-Mess, maybe Retropie should focus on keyboardless systems like the list above to begin with.

                                      In fact, there are many great systems available in Lr-Mess that are too difficult for newbie to configure. This Docs link sould be updated with an appropriate tutorial https://retropie.org.uk/docs/MESS/
                                      This tutorial could be modified if Lr-Mess is installed with machines scripts in the future or precompiled Lr-Mess with preset machines.

                                      Unfortunately my only current contribution is as a tester and sharing my personal experience with keyboardless systems like the list mentioned above. I can contribute with the things I have done in some .cfg files to define controllers or stuff like that or reading scripts.

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                                        Folly
                                        last edited by

                                        @DTEAM

                                        I get it.

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                                          dmmarti
                                          last edited by

                                          Here's my current working list of systems using lr-mess.

                                          Acorn Archimedes
                                          Acorn BBC Micro
                                          Acorn Electron
                                          Amstrad GX4000
                                          APF Imagination Machine
                                          Apple II
                                          Atari Jaguar
                                          Bally Astrocade
                                          Bandai Super Vision 8000
                                          BitCorp Gamate
                                          Camputers Lynx
                                          Casio PV-1000
                                          Casio PV-2000
                                          Coleco Adam
                                          Creatronic Mega Duck
                                          Dragon 32
                                          Emerson Arcadia 2001
                                          Entex Adventure Vision
                                          Epoch Game Pocket Computer
                                          Epoch Super Cassette Vision
                                          Exidy Sorcerer
                                          Fujitsu FM7
                                          Fujitsu FM Towns
                                          Fujitsu FM Towns Marty
                                          Interton VC 4000
                                          Matra and Hatchett Alice
                                          Mattel Aquarius
                                          Memotech MTX
                                          MGT Sam Coupe
                                          Philips CD-i
                                          Sharp MZ-2500
                                          Sharp MZ-700
                                          Sord M5
                                          Spectravideo
                                          Tandy TRS-80
                                          Tandy TRS-80 Color Computer
                                          Tandy TRS-80 MC-10
                                          Tangerine Oric
                                          Texas Instruments TI 99-4A
                                          Tomy Tutor
                                          VTech CreatiVision
                                          VTech Laser 200
                                          Watara Supervision

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                                          • DTEAMD
                                            DTEAM
                                            last edited by DTEAM

                                            @dmmarti said in new scriptmodules (lr-vice-xvic, gsplus, proper lr-mess integration!):

                                            Here's my current working list of systems using lr-mess.

                                            impressive list !! I didn't have Bandai Super Vision 8000 as a keyboardless system. Thanks

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