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      Zering @AdamBeGood
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      @AdamBeGood I'm trying Aquales now. It's the same developpers as Geograph Seal and Jumping Flash. Looks cool.
      The music cutting out I think has to do with the X68K which could only play so many sounds at one time. Some games like Chourensha disguise it much better than others.
      Did you try R+R in the end?

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        AdamBeGood @Zering
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        @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

        @AdamBeGood I'm trying Aquales now. It's the same developpers as Geograph Seal and Jumping Flash. Looks cool.
        The music cutting out I think has to do with the X68K which could only play so many sounds at one time. Some games like Chourensha disguise it much better than others.
        Did you try R+R in the end?

        Your sound theory could be it, that might make sense.

        Only to see if the game worked... I need to play R+R and Chourensha.

        I've heard good things about Etoile Princess also, just trying that now. I worry the Japanese content may be prohibitive, it's an Action RPG. Looks great though - massive sprites!

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          Zering @AdamBeGood
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          @AdamBeGood I'm kind of at a loss with Aquales. I'm stuck under a platform with nowhere to go. Are you supposed to be able to switch between weapons? I can only use the grappling hook. The game looks and sounds great though.
          You may want to try Mad Stalker. It had versions on PC Engine and PS1 but I think the X68000 game is excellent, although the music does cut out often.
          I'll try Etoile Princess now.

          Edit : Etoile Princesse is great, the combat is fun. But it does seem fairly unfriendly to English players.

          @Folly How did you get Castlevania 68K to work? I have no video and my controls won't respond.

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            AdamBeGood @Zering
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            @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

            @AdamBeGood I'm kind of at a loss with Aquales. I'm stuck under a platform with nowhere to go. Are you supposed to be able to switch between weapons? I can only use the grappling hook. The game looks and sounds great though.
            You may want to try Mad Stalker. It had versions on PC Engine and PS1 but I think the X68000 game is excellent, although the music does cut out often.
            I'll try Etoile Princess now.

            Edit : Etoile Princesse is great, the combat is fun. But it does seem fairly unfriendly to English players.

            @Folly How did you get Castlevania 68K to work? I have no video and my controls won't respond.

            Castlevania worked fine for me - although I do get a Menu at the start, in which I have to select X68000 out of three options. I have the .dims in an M3U, and run the game through that, I don't know if that makes a difference?

            Oh, and I'll have a look at Aquales.

            Edit: I have Mad Stalker, I'll give it a go now.
            Further Edit: I love it! Once I'd worked out some moves: Down Down + Button for Dragon Punch, Forward Forward + Button for Slide Attack, Hadouken + Button for Gun.

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              Zering @AdamBeGood
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              @AdamBeGood I figured it out in the end, I had to wait for a long musical cue to end.
              Those three options are internal X68000 sound, MT32 and SC55.
              That game is spectacular by the way, although unfortunately I've ran into a pretty bad glitch on the raft in stage 2 that forced me to reload.

              Edit : I knew you'd enjoy Mad Stalker! And the best thing is the other versions of the game are different enough to warrant a playthrough.
              Did you try Genocide?

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                AdamBeGood @Zering
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                @Zering I'll look at the other Mad Stalkers then!

                I've had a quick look at Genocide, but haven't played it through at all. It looks cool.

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                  Folly
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                  @Zering @AdamBeGood

                  Have the PC-88 and PC-98 up and running.
                  PC-88 was a pain in the ass with the BIOS.
                  (searching, checking checksums, renaming)
                  (still missing FONT2.ROM and FONT3.ROM, but it works without)
                  Seems that the retropie docs are a bit outdated with the filenames.

                  You can have the same problem with th PC-98 if you don't find the good files though. But I was fortunate enough.

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                    Zering @AdamBeGood
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                    @AdamBeGood The sequel is excellent.

                    @Folly Excellent! What games did you try?

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                      Folly @Zering
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                      @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                      @Folly Excellent! What games did you try?

                      On the PC-88 : 1942
                      On the PC-98 : Yume no Sei (13cm)

                      They were just a quick test.
                      Have to wait for the better ones. :)

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                        Zering @Folly
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                        @Folly The PC88 has this really strange game called Wibarm that is worth a look. Otherwise, Dragon Slayer 1 and 2 are fun!
                        On the PC98 I can't recommend Rude Breaker enough. Flame Zapper Kotsujin and Rusty are also very good.

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                          Folly @Zering
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                          @Zering
                          Thanks, will try these.

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                            Zering @Folly
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                            @Folly Having said this, Dragon Slayer 2's definitive version can be found on the MSX1 (the MSX2 is inferior, weirdly), with a smashing score by Yuzo Koshiro!

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                              Folly
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                              @Zering

                              wibarm asks for a data disk. how do i do that ?

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                                Zering @Folly
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                                @Folly if I recall, you need to go into subsystems and follow all the menus to load all the discs at once.

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                                  Folly @Zering
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                                  @Zering

                                  I just have one disk.

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                                    Zering @Folly
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                                    @Folly I'll look into it now.

                                    Your rom is wrong. You should have a game disk and a user disk.

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                                      AdamBeGood @Zering
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                                      @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                      @AdamBeGood The sequel is excellent.

                                      I'm playing the sequel now, I struggled not to take a shed load of hits in Genocide 1. It seemed rather attritional. I wouldn't rule out that I am playing it poorly though! Genocide 2 seems a lot better - lovely intro also. I've played the first couple of levels now.

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                                        Folly @Zering
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                                        @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                        @Folly I'll look into it now.

                                        Your rom is wrong. You should have a game disk and a user disk.

                                        Found that subsystem in retroarch menu.
                                        Just one back (z).
                                        Will have to search then.

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                                          Zering @AdamBeGood
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                                          @AdamBeGood Yeah I agree with you. The second one seems a lot more accessible, but both left me feeling as though I wasn't playing them right. However I really enjoy their presentation, the graphics and sound are astounding.

                                          @Folly Let me know how you get on, I've booted up the PC88 for the first time yesterday since I've had the Pi 4 and it's acting up a bit haha

                                          Edit : Wibarm won't boot on my end either. Weird. It worked fine before and I haven't changed anything.

                                          Further edit : Sorted, it loads but there's a looooong wait. If your controller has a vibration function, the emulator uses the vibration to signal when it's accessing the disc drive. Neat.

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                                            Folly @Zering
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                                            @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                            @Folly Let me know how you get on, I've booted up the PC88 for the first time yesterday since I've had the Pi 4 and it's acting up a bit haha

                                            Edit : Wibarm won't boot on my end either. Weird. It worked fine before and I haven't changed anything.

                                            Will let you know how I get on.
                                            Will try some other games first to know the emulator a bit better.
                                            My pi4 goes pretty flawless !

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