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    Folly @Zering
    last edited by Folly 11 Apr 2020, 21:17 4 Nov 2020, 21:15

    @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

    @Folly I mean Final Crisis ^^

    Ok. have also 3 disks
    Final Crisis (Techno Grard)

    c7a225228ab2f24535b30d816883645d Final Crisis (Disk A).d88
    7dfd1a416f0e1434bbbddb87d19dc4d1 Final Crisis (Disk B).d88
    1486b21aaf38c018229d3867c186a2bb Final Crisis (Disk C).d88

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      Zering @Folly
      last edited by 4 Nov 2020, 21:16

      @Folly That's the exact same version I've got.
      Could the differences be because you're running them via .m3u?

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        Folly @Zering
        last edited by Folly 11 Apr 2020, 21:23 4 Nov 2020, 21:17

        @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

        @Folly That's the exact same version I've got.
        Could the differences be because you're running them via .m3u?

        Don't think so, you can try though.

        Then you have to add .m3u , as sudo user, in :
        /etc/emulationstation/es_systems.cfg

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          Zering @Folly
          last edited by 4 Nov 2020, 21:24

          @Folly You were right, it made no difference.
          Do you have any idea what could cause this? A faulty BIOS maybe?

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            Folly @Zering
            last edited by 4 Nov 2020, 21:26

            @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

            @Folly You were right, it made no difference.
            Do you have any idea what could cause this? A faulty BIOS maybe?

            do you want my sums ?

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              Zering @Folly
              last edited by 4 Nov 2020, 21:26

              @Folly Sure, it can't hurt!
              Thanks for all your help.

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                Folly @Zering
                last edited by Folly 11 Apr 2020, 21:32 4 Nov 2020, 21:29

                @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                @Folly Sure, it can't hurt!
                Thanks for all your help.

                Before I updated from source I also changed a few to make them the same as in the docs.

                md5sum .
                d675a2ca186c6efcd6277b835de4c7e5 N88EXT0.ROM
                e844534dfe5744b381444dbe61ef1b66 N88EXT1.ROM
                6548fa45061274dee1ea8ae1e9e93910 N88EXT2.ROM
                fc4b76a402ba501e6ba6de4b3e8b4273 N88EXT3.ROM
                cbcade0d0057bb9eee79a6b370b4dd3a N88JISHO.ROM
                d81c6d5d7ad1a4bbbd6ae22a01257603 N88KNJ1.ROM
                41d2e2c0c0edfccf76fa1c3e38bc1cf2 N88KNJ2.ROM
                2ff07b8769367321128e03924af668a0 N88N.ROM
                4f984e04a99d56c4cfe36115415d6eb8 N88.ROM
                793f86784e5608352a5d7f03f03e0858 N88SUB.ROM

                My core options :
                q88_basic_mode = "N88 V2"
                q88_cpu_clock = "8"
                q88_pcg-8100 = "disabled"
                q88_rumble = "enabled"
                q88_save_to_disk_image = "disabled"
                q88_screen_size = "full"
                q88_sound_board = "OPNA"
                q88_sub_cpu_mode = "2"
                q88_use_fdc_wait = "enabled"

                Will hear your succes later on.

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                  Zering @Folly
                  last edited by Zering 11 Apr 2020, 22:22 4 Nov 2020, 21:50

                  @Folly When you say 'changed a few', do you mean that you've replaced the file entirely or that you've somehow edited the md5?

                  Edit : Got it! My N88.ROM was way off.
                  As a note, n88jisho.rom is still wrong on my end. But Final Crisis plays fine. That file seems to be optional.

                  Thanks again @Folly !

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                    AdamBeGood @Folly
                    last edited by 4 Nov 2020, 22:30

                    I've got a load of games to run tonight, with quite a bit of disk swapping. So the bios I have is good for something.

                    Do you think I should raise a post for my .hdi issue?

                    I could do without all the drive swapping, and I have to use Google Translate on my phone to find out what the game wants me to do!

                    Games I've got to run -

                    Dragon Slayer 2
                    Puyo Puyo
                    Popful Mail
                    Rusty
                    Warau Salesman (not recommended, this was when I was picking any game to try)

                    Only one I've had no joy with is Night Slave but that has Disks A to J so maybe needs to be installed? I think that might have to be run on .hdi (it looks quite fun so wonder if you guys want to try it?).

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                      Zering @AdamBeGood
                      last edited by 4 Nov 2020, 22:32

                      @AdamBeGood So there's only one game you can't get to run?

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                        ecto @Folly
                        last edited by 4 Nov 2020, 22:42

                        @Folly said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                        @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                        @Folly That's excellent news!

                        Makes me wonder if CD and HD images can also be added together with FD images. All together in 1 file.

                        You can mount different types of images together using one cmd file (a little like a m3u file. Read here.

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                          Zering @AdamBeGood
                          last edited by Zering 11 Apr 2020, 23:07 4 Nov 2020, 22:57

                          @AdamBeGood Night Slave.hdi boots fine on my end.
                          This one requires a low CPU Clock Multiplier. 10 seems fine.
                          As usual the text boxes are vacant.
                          The game looks utterly gorgeous (and I'm not talking about the scantily clad anime ladies).
                          The controls are messed up though, I can't select power ups with my joypad.

                          @ecto Thanks for sharing that post, I'm sure that will come in very handy as we get deeper in the PC98's catalogue!

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                            AdamBeGood @Zering
                            last edited by AdamBeGood 11 Apr 2020, 23:27 4 Nov 2020, 23:23

                            @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                            @AdamBeGood So there's only one game you can't get to run?

                            From Floppy Disk, yep. But I can't get various games that I want on floppy disk, quite a few of them I can only find .hdi.

                            On the text issue, have you got a font.bmp in your BIOS folder? That is where my config file says to look for that.

                            I really want to play Night Slave, it is is annoying. I don't mind if I have to use the keyboard a bit. It was nice to get some games working today anyway.

                            .hdi would really open the catalogue up.

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                              AdamBeGood @ecto
                              last edited by 4 Nov 2020, 23:29

                              @ecto As you're a bit of a PC98 pro, I don't suppose you have ever encountered the issue I'm facing.

                              If I open any .hdi file, I get a "How many files (0-15)?" message and then whatever I put, I get dumped to a Basic prompt. I've found floppy disk images to be fine (.hdm and .d88). It would be good to know if you have any thoughts on this - but no worries if you're busy, etc.

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                                Zering @AdamBeGood
                                last edited by Zering 11 May 2020, 00:01 4 Nov 2020, 23:43

                                @AdamBeGood .d88? That's a PC88 file extension isn't it?

                                I'll have to check for the font.bmp. I'm hoping you're right. I really want to play the six Farland Story games.

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                                  SuperFromND
                                  last edited by 5 Nov 2020, 01:40

                                  Oh hey, I just now realized this thread existed!

                                  I've always had a fascination with Japanese home computers, mostly because they seldom get mentioned in retrogaming circles compared to the usual home computers.

                                  Admittedly I haven't actually spent a whole lot of time actually playing anything released on them, but I'll still try to answer whatever I can.

                                  @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                  d88? That's a PC88 file extension isn't it?

                                  It was originally intended for the PC88, but .d88 isn't exclusive to it.

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                                    Zering @SuperFromND
                                    last edited by 5 Nov 2020, 08:48

                                    @SuperFromND Well this thread has only existed for about three days so you're not too late to the party!
                                    I'm not much of an expert myself, outside of the X68000 and the MSX my knowledge is limited. But at the very least those systems are intriguing.
                                    Now that I've got the X68K and the NEC PCs pretty much sorted I think I'm going to look into more obscure machines, like the FM7 or the Sharp MZ700. The fun never stops ^^

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                                      AdamBeGood
                                      last edited by AdamBeGood 11 May 2020, 09:32 5 Nov 2020, 09:31

                                      I've been tinkering on the PC98 again this morning.

                                      It turns out if I remove all BIOS from the folder, then the floppy games I had running previously still work! The difference is that if I put the BIOS back in, then I begin receiving "How Many Files?" messages for .hdi rather than blank screen, which is what I get without any BIOS at all.

                                      Here's the screen:

                                      https://flic.kr/p/2k3C9kD

                                      I still think it likely that I have the wrong BIOS, but I also find it surprising that none of the ones I've tried have worked. I have tried a lot now. Here's me going through BIOS checksums yesterday:

                                      https://flic.kr/p/2k3yjch

                                      Here are runcommand entries if that is at all useful.

                                      runcommand.info

                                      pc98
                                      lr-np2kai
                                      /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/pc98/fzkotsujin.hdi
                                      /opt/retropie/emulators/retroarch/bin/retroarch -L /opt/retropie/libretrocores/lr-np2kai/np2kai_libretro.so --config /opt/retropie/configs/pc98/retroarch.cfg "/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/pc98/fzkotsujin.hdi"

                                      runcommand.log

                                      Parameters:
                                      Executing: /opt/retropie/emulators/retroarch/bin/retroarch -L /opt/retropie/libretrocores/lr-np2kai/np2kai_libretro.so --config /opt/retropie/configs/pc98/retroarch.cfg "/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/pc98/fzkotsujin.hdi" --appendconfig /dev/shm/retroarch.cfg
                                      Loading np2kai.cfg from /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/np2kai/np2kai.cfgSaving np2kai.cfg to /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/np2kai/np2kai.cfgSaving np2kai.cfg to /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/np2kai/np2kai.cfgarg_0:np2kai
                                      argl_0:6
                                      arg_1:/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/pc98/fzkotsujin.hdi
                                      argl_1:42
                                      Samples:782
                                      INIT done
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                                        Folly @Zering
                                        last edited by 5 Nov 2020, 09:31

                                        @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                        @Folly When you say 'changed a few', do you mean that you've replaced the file entirely or that you've somehow edited the md5?

                                        Edit : Got it! My N88.ROM was way off.
                                        As a note, n88jisho.rom is still wrong on my end. But Final Crisis plays fine. That file seems to be optional.

                                        Thanks again @Folly !

                                        Good job!
                                        Yes, I meant replaced a rom or two.

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                                          Folly @ecto
                                          last edited by Folly 11 May 2020, 09:34 5 Nov 2020, 09:34

                                          @ecto said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                          @Folly said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                          @Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                          @Folly That's excellent news!

                                          Makes me wonder if CD and HD images can also be added together with FD images. All together in 1 file.

                                          You can mount different types of images together using one cmd file (a little like a m3u file. Read here.

                                          Thanks for sharing !
                                          Will look into it later on.

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