Old Computer Appreciation Thread
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@adambegood Why are you using a keyboard? Most of those games are designed to be played with a two button joypad. Same for most Japanese computers of the era.
It could be that Garudius 95 does not have any keyboard controls.
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@Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:
@adambegood Why are you using a keyboard? Most of those games are designed to be played with a two button joypad. Same for most Japanese computers of the era.
It could be that Garudius 95 does not have any keyboard controls.
Well, the way I'm using my controller is by mapping arrow keys to it in Options. So if my keyboard doesn't work, my controller doesn't.
Should I be doing it another way?
I was just using keyboard as joypad wasn't a goer, I have to use numpad on some games which don't use arrow keys.
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@adambegood I do believe there's an option to use a joypad in the retroarch menu for that core. At the bottom I think.
I don't know how your keyboard would work with that as I play exclusively with joypads. Keyboards... yuck ^^ -
@Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:
@adambegood I do believe there's an option to use a joypad in the retroarch menu for that core. At the bottom I think.
I don't know how your keyboard would work with that as I play exclusively with joypads. Keyboards... yuck ^^Sorted, usually I map to Arrow, but this was map to Keypad. Job done!
Stop keyboard shaming me! I thought it was the only way I could play this.
Edit: on a different issue, I am scraping my games now. Such a nightmare.
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@adambegood haha I'm not shaming you I just literally cannot play with a keyboard. I'm somewhat dispraxic and have extremely poor hand-eye coordination, so those massive chunks of plastic are just atrocious to me. It's more than half the reason I keep putting off all those awesome DOS games I am dying to play.
So what have you played on the PC98 so far?
Edit : I've logged in root via WinSCP, and still no luck, I can't change my permissions. Still no japanese text on PC98 games...
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@Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:
@adambegood haha I'm not shaming you I just literally cannot play with a keyboard. I'm somewhat dispraxic and have extremely poor hand-eye coordination, so those massive chunks of plastic are just atrocious to me. It's more than half the reason I keep putting off all those awesome DOS games I am dying to play.
So what have you played on the PC98 so far?
Edit : I've logged in root via WinSCP, and still no luck, I can't change my permissions. Still no japanese text on PC98 games...
I'm just getting a few DOS games that have come to my mind (Fade To Black, Slipstream 5000).
I haven't played a lot, yet between tinkering and scraping but I intend to stop with that now and get to playing).
I have:
Belloncho Body Inspection (translated)
CRW Metal Jacket (translated)
Dragon Slayer I and II (untranslated)
Farland Story I - VI (translated)
Flame Zapper
Gandhara (not translated)
Garudius '95
Night Slave
Okunen Monogatari (aka EVO, which I thought was weird and fun on SNES - translated)
Popful Mail
Puyo Puto 1 and 2
Reserve and Reserve 1/2 (translated)
Rusty (translated)
Steam-heart's
The Black Onyx T(translated)
Touhou 2 and 5
Yu-No (untranslated)
Yugekitai - the RPG one and the fighting one (translated)I intend to actually play these now.
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@adambegood the Touhou games all have translations!
And by the way I'm not sure if you know but the EVO game on Snes is actually a sequel to the PC98 game!
You'll probably be better off playing Dragon Slayer 1 and 2 on Saturn through the Falcom Classics release though,although for my money the best port if Xanadu is on the MSX1 with that Yuzo Koshiro score! -
@Zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:
@adambegood the Touhou games all have translations!
And by the way I'm not sure if you know but the EVO game on Snes is actually a sequel to the PC98 game!
You'll probably be better off playing Dragon Slayer 1 and 2 on Saturn through the Falcom Classics release though,although for my money the best port if Xanadu is on the MSX1 with that Yuzo Koshiro score!As they are shooters I'm not too bothered.
I knew it was linked yep! I thought more a reimagining than a sequel.
I'm just playing the intro of Snatcher PC-88 for fun, it is pretty cool although actually playing it won't be possible without translation.
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@adambegood There's a translation for the MSX2 port!
Bear in mind that the original PC versions of the game are lacking the third act though.
I think I'm going to play the MSX2 version eventually though, apparently it's vastly different in tone from the Sega CD game. -
@zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:
@adambegood There's a translation for the MSX2 port!
Bear in mind that the original PC versions of the game are lacking the third act though.
I think I'm going to play the MSX2 version eventually though, apparently it's vastly different in tone from the Sega CD game.Is there? I'll have to download the MSX2 version then, I didn't know that!
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@adambegood Yeah I'm pretty sure there is, although it's not without its caveats apparently. From what I've read the translation is a bit literal... but at least we can play the game.
You can also play Snatcher and Policenauts on the PC98, that's pretty cool too! (But sadly no translations) -
@zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:
@folly Well I'm now at my wit's end with this font issue. My BIOS files match yours exactly and I still can't get any text in games that use the japanese font.
Could it be a permissions issue? My BIOS are set to 0755 and I can't seem to be able to change that.
my bios files are (don't think that's the issue):
644edit :
my np2kai directory :
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@folly Do you have any idea what could be happening here? My next step is I throw all the PC98 bios I can find in my np2kai directory and hope for the best.
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@zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:
@folly Do you have any idea what could be happening here? My next step is I throw all the PC98 bios I can find in my np2kai directory and hope for the best.
No idea.
But the logs I saw were a mess. (mine and Adam).
If it wasn't working for me I would first make a log without any bios. Most logs then show which files are needed. Then I go from there to get a nice looking log. (bios lookup wise) -
@folly Would you be okay to help me with that? How do I get such a log?
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@zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:
@folly Would you be okay to help me with that? How do I get such a log?
Press a key when starting the emu (retropie screen is seen) press a key. Select "launch with verbose mode"
Exit the emu.Now you have a log in /dev/shm/
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If you always want a full log edit :
/opt/retropie/configs/pc98/emulators.cfg
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@folly Learnt something new today - again. ^^
I removed all the BIOS. Weirdly enough, the game still launched. I was using the floppy version of Popful Mail as a test.
Seems like it actually requires a whole bunch of font files, from what I can gather.
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Checked some things with mine.
I also have a bunch of "Couldn't open file (RO)".This thing striked me though :
np2kai.cfg is saved every time at start.
(mine will save)It says your file can't be saved.
saving ......
[libretro WARN] Couldn't open file (W) /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/np2kai/np2kai/np2kai.cfg.
(I don't have this warning)Do you still have this file in the np2kai directory ?
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@folly Weird. I was sure I had it but now that you mention it I can't find it anywhere. If it had been in the np2kai directory when I removed the BIOS I would know because I copied everything over to a separate folder.
Could that be the issue?
Edit : That has to be it if that's the only difference between our set ups. We have the exact same BIOS.
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@zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:
@folly Weird. I was sure I had it but now that you mention it I can't find it anywhere. If it had been in the np2kai directory when I removed the BIOS I would know because I copied everything over to a separate folder.
Could that be the issue?
Copied, you said. You have to move it.
Or copy, then delete the originals.
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