Old Computer Appreciation Thread

AdamBeGood

@zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

@folly I'd definitely be interested.

Seconded! I'd love to know.

Folly

@Zering @AdamBeGood

EDIT:
Altough this solution works, I found a much better way !
Keep reading in the next post ;-)

Well, I have think of my reputation. ^^

I use these files (md5sum) :
aa58b4d5ec37caba33da19587292a5a1 BWHDD.hdf
a53067ef706c7adb06143e141f3da47a HUMAN302.XDF

Here it is (hope it works for both of you):

only boot HUMAN302.XDF (exit the emulator, next time it will start with human68k)
now boot with the .hdf (you boot also into human68k (dos))
there are more drives (A: , B: , C:)
goto the C: partition (press C=>C ,=>: and enter)(keyboard issue)
then do this command => ed BW.BAT
Change A: into C:
save the file => press "escape" , press "e" (if all goes well, you come back to the prompt)
then do this command => BW
next time type => C: "enter" => bw "enter"

I could almost read Japanese. HaHa

Zering

@folly Great, thanks! You know everything! But how do you actually patch the image?

Folly

@zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

@folly Great, thanks! You know everything! But how do you actually patch the image?

This image is already translated in english.

AdamBeGood

@folly said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

@Zering @AdamBeGood

Well, I have think of my reputation. ^^

I use this file :
md5sum aa58b4d5ec37caba33da19587292a5a1 BWHDD.hdf

Here it is (hope it works for both of you) :

just boot with the .hdf (you boot into human68k (dos))

there are more partitions (A: , B: , C:)

goto the C: partition (press C=>C ,=>: and enter)(keyboard issue)

then do this command => ed BW.BAT

Change A: into C:

save the file => press "escape" , press "e" (if all goes well, you come back to the prompt)

then do this command => BW
~~- next time it should start automatically, if image is saved~~

I could almost read Japanese. HaHa

EDIT:
The changes are saved on the image.
To boot automatically we still have to add an autoexec.bat on a:

Amazing work! I'll have to have a look at this tomorrow as my family want me to spend time with them now. I'll fire up the laptop and download this human68k and have a look.

It's just black screen for me on the Pi currently.

Folly

@adambegood said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

@folly said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:
download this human68k and have a look.

It should come with HUMAN302.XDF.

Folly

Better solution :

I use these files (md5sum) :
aa58b4d5ec37caba33da19587292a5a1 BWHDD.hdf
a53067ef706c7adb06143e141f3da47a HUMAN302.XDF

lr-px68k can also work with a .cmd file.
Create one containing :

px68k HUMAN302.XDF BWHDD.hdf

If you want to seperate the files from the .cmd file.
Use this :
(Now the images are in the directory "hdinst_en")(the .cmd file is in the same directory as "hdinst_en")

px68k hdinst_en/HUMAN302.XDF hdinst_en/BWHDD.hdf

Now we don't need to alter the image anymore.
It works OOB. :-) (including "game saves")

Just type what you want to run.

If you want to run the game automatically, edit the autoexec.bat :

do this command => ed autoexec.bat
add this to the file => bwgame
save the file => press "escape" , press "e"
reboot the emulator

Game menu:
Keep holding down
the Joypad A and B buttons
more than 0.5 seconds.

How about some kudos ?

Zering

@folly That is all pretty awesome. How on earth do you figure this stuff out???

Folly

@zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

@folly That is all pretty awesome. How on earth do you figure this stuff out???

Well seemed that if I run another disk image, my first solution would not work anymore. So you actually had to boot twice if the huma68k wasn't remembered by the emulator. Also I had to change those files. So I figured there must be a better way. So I was thinking perhaps this emulator will also work with .cmd files. And it did! Turns out this is also explained in the libretro docs, for this emulator. So there you have it.

EDIT : I always know from my experience and my guts where i have look, isn't it amazing ;-)

Zering

@folly This thread is turning into a proper mine of information on obscure Japanese machines! ^^

Are you planning on setting up any more systems on your end?

Folly

@zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

@folly This thread is turning into a proper mine of information on obscure Japanese machines! ^^

In theory, this is what we should do (but I don't know if I am up to it):

make a fork of Retropie-setup
read all our thread stuff from the beginning
add support for the things we discovered
do a pull request for the updated scripts
edit the retropie docs

Are you planning on setting up any more systems on your end?

Ofcourse it never stops. :)

Folly

@Zering When are you going to try the solution ?

Zering

@folly Honestly I don't know! I'm heads deep in PC98 and FM Towns stuff. I've actually managed to play games today ^^ Tomorrow I need to try and see if my Saturn CHDs will work on Yabasanshiro and if they do then I'll be back where I was - so a couple of days at least.

I don't mind going through the thread and make a comprehensive list of all the stuff we've figured out. Maybe we could even make a separate thread based on those solutions? ^^

You should get the FM and Sharp MZ series set up on your system. ^^

Folly

@zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

@folly Honestly I don't know! I'm heads deep in PC98 and FM Towns stuff. I've actually managed to play games today ^^ Tomorrow I need to try and see if my Saturn CHDs will work on Yabasanshiro and if they do then I'll be back where I was - so a couple of days at least.

I don't mind going through the thread and make a comprehensive list of all the stuff we've figured out. Maybe we could even make a separate thread based on those solutions? ^^

You should get the FM and Sharp MZ series set up on your system. ^^

OK, I understand.
Try those systems if I have the time.

AdamBeGood

@folly I've got the wrong file here but your solution is great and I've amended my Autoexec.bat in readiness for finding the correct file. Mine was a .HDS not an .HDF.

Zering

Found this awesome looking game for the Towns and now I'm dying to try it.

It appears to be exclusive to the system. I'm hoping that unlike Alltynex this one works ^^

AdamBeGood

@zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

Found this awesome looking game for the Towns and now I'm dying to try it

It appears to be exclusive to the system. I'm hoping that unlike Alltynex this one works ^^

Good luck, Zering!

On Die Banhwelt, I found a translate disk set so thought I'd try that. It's set to MIDI music so there is no music! Arggg. So frustrating.

@Folly - there is an intro disk as well, I think you use "Opening" or something similar rather than BW, it doesn't run if you just load the game normally. Not on floppy anyway, but maybe on yours it does.

Edit: Oh, maybe I can change the MIDI music with the A and B menu. Not sure where that leaves me with my intro disk though... Unless that also has that menu option. I wish I wasn't in bed now, or that I could have just found the Hard Drive version.

Further Edit: I got out of bed. It works! Changing the music through the A and B menu in the main game also sorts out the intro, changing it to internal sound. Superb.

Zering

Just played this awesome game on the PC98.

I particularly love the scan lines, which remind me of the PC88.
There's also a Burning Dragon Plus, with increased difficulty, better presentation, slightly different gameplay and coop multiplayer.

AdamBeGood

@zering said in Old Japanese Computer Appreciation Thread:

Just played this awesome game on the PC98.

I particularly love the scan lines, which remind me of the PC88.
There's also a Burning Dragon Plus, with increased difficulty, better presentation, slightly different gameplay and coop multiplayer.

Looks good! I'll have a look tomorrow.

I completed Alone in the Dark, the old PC game, earlier. 28 years after I first played it!

Zering

@adambegood I confess the only AITD game I ever played was the New Nightmare on PS1, which I thought was a massive letdown. It does a lot right but it's tedious, unfair and annoying.
Funnily enough I was just reflecting that Alone in the dark is one of the games I have on the most platforms. It's even on the PC98.