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      Folly @Zering
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      @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

      @folly Not the bulk one. The single m3u one. I've already put it in the first post, at the very bottom under miscellaneous.

      Did you do this ? :

      ls *.d88 -w1 > Wibarm.m3u

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        AdamBeGood @Zering
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        @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

        @adambegood Terminal Velocity looks AWESOME.
        What's Ecstatica like?

        @Folly that seems absurdly low. Don't the cycles need to be in the thousands for games to run at even a decent speed?

        I'll try dark forces again on lr-dosbox tonight.

        Ecstatica is like Alone in the Dark or Resident Evil in that it is fixed camera angles. I just like its harshness, you get the sh1t kicked out of you a lot early on. It's got quite a good atmosphere considering the graphics are ellipsoid weirdness. Yeah, Terminal Velocity is great. SlipStream 5000 is a fun flying racer as well.

        Ps. the Descent games are better on PC as well, I think. Nicer with a mouse and keyboard.

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          Folly @AdamBeGood
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          @adambegood said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

          @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

          @adambegood Terminal Velocity looks AWESOME.
          What's Ecstatica like?

          @Folly that seems absurdly low. Don't the cycles need to be in the thousands for games to run at even a decent speed?

          Well could be, that is something to fiddle with indeed !
          9 worked for my P2000 emulator.

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            Zering @AdamBeGood
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            @Folly I don't think I understand how the command is supposed to work. If I could just see a screenshot of you doing it I think I can figure out what I'm doing wrong. If that's okay of course.

            @adambegood Ecstatica sounds interesting. Didn't you have issues getting that one running?

            There are ports in RetroPie for Descent 1 and 2, I'm pretty sure that's the best way to play them on the pi. They look tough as nails.

            Edit : Is Slipstream 5000 on the PC98? It rings a bell.

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              Folly
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              @Zering
              Go to the directory and use quotes, if there are spaces in the path ! :
              pi@raspberrypi:~ $ cd '/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/pc88/Wibarm (Arsys)'
              Do the command :
              pi@raspberrypi:~/RetroPie/roms/pc88/Wibarm (Arsys) $ ls *.d88 -w1 > Wibarm.m3u

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              This is the normal command (running the command from within the directory !) :
              ls *.d88 -w1

              Output :
              Wibarm.d88
              'Wibarm (User disk).d88'

              The bulk command is runned from here :
              /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/pc88

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                Zering @Folly
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                @folly Okay so I'm an idiot.

                I didn't place the d88 files in a separate directory.

                I'm a complete tool.

                Thanks @Folly, I'll try again tonight.

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                  Folly
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                  Here some lr-dosbox pictures :
                  Castlevania ( I had a joystick calibrate issue, keyboard works )
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                  Metal gear :2020-11-25-173954_800x600_scrot-resized.png 2020-11-25-174001_800x600_scrot-resized.png

                  Luigi and Spaghetti : 2020-11-25-174051_800x600_scrot-resized.png 2020-11-25-174122_800x600_scrot-resized.png

                  Rayman / Boulderdash :2020-11-25-174551_800x600_scrot-resized.png 2020-11-25-174644_800x600_scrot-resized.png

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                    Zering @Folly
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                    @folly Metal Gear DOS looks like it's based on the atrocious NES adaptation, rather than the MSX. Am I wrong?

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                      Folly @Zering
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                      @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                      @folly Metal Gear DOS looks like it's based on the atrocious NES adaptation, rather than the MSX. Am I wrong?

                      Yes indeed. Looks more like the nes edition.

                      I know there should also be a solid snake on pc but i think it was on windows.
                      It should be lying around somewhere here.

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                        Zering @Folly
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                        @folly Well on my end I can confirm that Fallout, Daggerfall and Command and Conquer work pretty much flawlessly on standalone dosbox.
                        Fallout in particular is very impressive graphically.

                        I'm wondering if I can find any DOS games that can push the Pi more.

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                          AdamBeGood @Zering
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                          @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                          @folly Well on my end I can confirm that Fallout, Daggerfall and Command and Conquer work pretty much flawlessly on standalone dosbox.
                          Fallout in particular is very impressive graphically.

                          I'm wondering if I can find any DOS games that can push the Pi more.

                          Terminal Velocity is maybe as much as you will get through DOSBox. The problem is that PC games moved to being Windows-based before they got more powerful than the Pi can cope with, so there are a lot of games we can't try because of that.

                          Half-Life, Quake 1-3 as Ports are probably the best easy (ie. well documented) options for PC games that push the Pi.

                          Edit: Oh, and as stated I couldn't recommend the old-school Lucasarts games enough. ScummVM is best for those, although I guess they would work on DOSBox also.

                          • Monkey Island 2 (and the others)
                          • Day of the Tentacle
                          • Sam and Max
                          • Indy and the Fate of Atlantis
                          • Full Throttle
                          • The Dig
                          • Grim Fandango (which will work on ScummVM soon)

                          They still look pretty good now, they hold up well I think.

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                            Zering @AdamBeGood
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                            @adambegood Agreed. I was playing Grim Fandango this week on ResidualVM and it looked really good. Unfortunately ResidualVM has pretty bad glitches and the game confused me within minutes so I don't think I'll be continuing it anytime soon. What's a good point of entry for PC adventures?

                            I hear ScummVM runs Blade Runner as well? Now that'd be pretty exciting.

                            I'll try Terminal Velocity tonight.

                            Edit : I've still had no luck with Half-Life :(

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                              AdamBeGood @Zering
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                              @zering That is annoying on Half-Life. I did struggle a bit but I got there in the end.

                              I'd say The Secret Of Monkey Island is a good place to start. It's a bit simpler than some of the later ones, where you have multiple characters at the same time. It is the least pretty, as it is the earliest but it has charm.

                              Grim Fandango has a remaster on the Switch and all the modern consoles, that is what I played it on. Grim passed me by first time round, it's the only one that did.

                              You're right on Blade Runner, I have that on ScummVM.

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                                Zering @AdamBeGood
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                                @adambegood For me the obstacle is that most of the puzzles have seemingly absurd solutions with very little in the way of clues.
                                Blade Runner on ScummVM is very exciting.

                                @Folly Thought you might be interested that I've got Star Wars Dark Forces running at full speed in lr-dosbox-svn. It was sluggish at first but with some tinkering I managed to get the game up to speed ^^
                                I'll try the same settings on lr-dosbox.

                                More information here

                                I'm pretty sure you can compile it from RetroPie-Extra.

                                Edit : I just tried Terminal Velocity and it runs smooth as butter on my rig. The game looks pretty fun. I'll play this once I can figure out how to use joysticks on dosbox. Thanks @AdamBeGood. The music is much fun.

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                                  Folly
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                                  Thanks,

                                  Now busy with the "share"
                                  I made a patch for policenauts (pc98).
                                  Tinkering on how the directory stucture should look like.

                                  https://github.com/FollyMaddy/RetroPie-Share

                                  Just uploaded the files.

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                                    Zering @Folly
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                                    @folly That's excellent! Great work as always.

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                                      AdamBeGood @Zering
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                                      @zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

                                      @adambegood For me the obstacle is that most of the puzzles have seemingly absurd solutions with very little in the way of clues.
                                      Blade Runner on ScummVM is very exciting.

                                      I did find Grim a bit like that, usually the puzzles do make sense if you speak to everyone and pay attention. But I found it more like that than others.

                                      Give one of the earlier games a try.

                                      Edit: I think it is Ctrl F1 to get the keymapper up in DOSBox, it is pretty easy to map joypads.

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                                        Zering @AdamBeGood
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                                        @adambegood I will. I find PC games less accessible as a rule anyway, but they keep drawing me in. Today I finally finished the first dungeon in Fallout, after having started the game a dozen games. Likewise, I played Ultima 4 on Master System and DOS several times before it clicked and I finally played it to the end (although I lost my save before I could venture down the final dungeon). Or even Doom. I hated Doom the first time I played it. Now I think it's the best FPS ever made, behind Return to Castle Wolfenstein.

                                        Sometimes I have to recognize that I may simply not be predisposed to something that's awesome.

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                                          AdamBeGood @Zering
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                                          @zering I'd chuck Half-Life 2 and Bioshock into the FPS mix, I think.

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                                            Zering @AdamBeGood
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                                            @adambegood Good point. I played Half Life 2 and its two episodes more than any other FPS yet I've never played the first one. Go figure.

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