how do you empty deleted files with MC

mitu

The mount output doesn't show the external disc being mounted, that's why EmulationStation doesn't start - the ROM folders are not present.

If you run mount -a from the command line, what's the output ? Do you get an error from the system while trying to mount the external disc ?

comet424

@mitu
wonder where the mount files went to then?
the emulationstation error had come up after i typed

sudo mv -v /home/pi/RetroPie/* /media/usb0/

as i was following the manual steps
so i dunno where files are unless i guess plug into the computer?

as for the mount error

pi@retropie:~ $ mount -a
mount: only root can use "--all" option
pi@retropie:~ $ mount --all
mount: only root can use "--all" option
pi@retropie:~ $

as for the error trying to mount the external disc i dunno? i only see that error of the usb@mount when you first turn on the raspberry pi and retropie is booting up doing its {OK] checks and that one fails or when i do a reboot

comet424

@mitu
i guess i need to move the files? to a retropie-mount maybe

pi@retropie:~ $ cd /media
pi@retropie:/media $ cd usb0
pi@retropie:/media/usb0 $ ls
BIOS  retropiemenu  roms  splashscreens
pi@retropie:/media/usb0 $
pi@retropie:/media/usb0 $ cd roms
pi@retropie:/media/usb0/roms $ ls
amstradcpc  atari5200  atarilynx  gamegear  gbc            mastersystem  neogeo  ngpc      sega32x  snes
arcade      atari7800  fba        gb        genesis        megadrive     nes     pcengine  segacd   vectrex
atari2600   atari800   fds        gba       mame-libretro  n64           ngp     psx       sg-1000  zxspectrum
pi@retropie:/media/usb0/roms $

mitu

@comet424 said in how do you empty deleted files with MC:

pi@retropie:~ $ mount -a
mount: only root can use "--all" option

You need to use sudo before the command, forgot about that.

so i dunno where files are unless i guess plug into the computer?

In /media/usb0, where you moved them.

i guess i need to move the files? to a retropie-mount maybe

You already moved the files, but /media/usb0 should be the mountpoint for your USB drive. retropie-mount is the location when you're using the automatic method, you say you're using the manual method and you've disabled the usbromservice module.

Did you mount the USB drive - to /media/usb0 - before moving the files from /home/pi/RetroPie ? Otherwise, even if the USB disc would work with your /etc/fstab, the drive would be empty.

comet424

@mitu
so drive must be mounted since i can see it right??

mc wouldnt let me make a folder and i think its because its really on the drive but you cant see it?

pi@retropie:/media/usb0/roms $ cd ..
pi@retropie:/media/usb0 $ mkdir retropie-mount
mkdir: cannot create directory ‘retropie-mount’: Permission denied
pi@retropie:/media/usb0 $ ls
BIOS  retropiemenu  roms  splashscreens
pi@retropie:/media/usb0 $ mkdir test
mkdir: cannot create directory ‘test’: Permission denied
pi@retropie:/media/usb0 $ df
Filesystem     1K-blocks    Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/root       30368644 2874152  26218904  10% /
devtmpfs         1801484       0   1801484   0% /dev
tmpfs            1933580       0   1933580   0% /dev/shm
tmpfs            1933580    9600   1923980   1% /run
tmpfs               5120       4      5116   1% /run/lock
tmpfs            1933580       0   1933580   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
/dev/mmcblk0p1    261868   55708    206160  22% /boot
tmpfs             386716       0    386716   0% /run/user/1000
pi@retropie:/media/usb0 $

or its only kinda mounted? as i cant make a directory test but the usb0 is there but the df shows no

mitu

No, the drive is not mounted. It should show up in a line containing /dev/sda1 on the 1st column, in the df command output.

The reason you're getting the errors for mkdir is that /media/usb0 is not writeable by the pi user (which is the default) and it's not on the external USB disc.

comet424

@mitu
from what i remember
when i do the clean install of retropie
and when it first boots up then reboots for the file system

it fails the usbmount@dev....

then takes 2 3 min for emulationstation to finish loading config files
then loads up 23 emulatiors i guess.. and then my roms are loaded like nes mame
etc

then i cant remember i did couple different ways enabling usb and disabling etc

but what i remember is all the roms are in retropie-mount folder on the SSD
then i installed vice and dosbox last time i tried i didnt install samba shares

then i edited the fstab file and added the
UUID=4A099D4A0F439B23 /home/pi/RetroPie vfat nofail,user,uid=pi,gid=pi 0 2
because when i did the exec rw line version thats when it really ruined it and locked me out

then i ran
sudo mv -v /home/pi/RetroPie/* /media/usb0/

then i ran the retro-setup i disabled usb mount service
and did a perform a reboot.
and when going through the checks it still fail the usbmount@dev...
and then says emulation is gone
and then i get the command prompt

so ok i ran the sudo

pi@retropie:/media/usb0 $ sudo mount -a
mount: /home/pi/RetroPie: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1, missing codepage or helper program, or other error.
pi@retropie:/media/usb0 $

guess i really buggered it up.. didnt i

so if the drive isnt mount then why is it showing up under usb0 as being mounted under /media/usb0
shouldnt it not show up anything

but ya i went into the /media/usb0/roms/nes and it shows nothing but how is it possible for a usb0 drive when its not there shouldnt it be nothing

do i delete usb0 w folder and reboot and will that let the drive remount?

mitu

pi@retropie:/media/usb0 $ sudo mount -a
mount: /home/pi/RetroPie: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1, missing codepage or helper program, or other error.

This looks like an un-formatted drive or - as the error says - wrong file system. Make sure the drive is properly formatted, then mount it first, before copying/moving the files from /home/pi/RetroPie/ to it.

comet424

so i used mc
and i copied /media/usb0/ to /home/pi/Retropie

and thats brought back the retropie gui

just not the roms so least that part is back

comet424

@mitu ah ok

well the SD card doesnt have any of the roms on it in the first place.. i only did the mv because it was one of the steps

then SSD should probably have 100gb of roms on it
it was formated to Fat32 as thats how this post orginally started

but i wonder if the UUID with the rw,exec and forgetting that 2 at the end correupted it then?

how do i check the FS on the SSD? i only really know windows

how do i do it in linux here

comet424

i tried
pi@retropie:~ $ fdisk /dev/sda1

Welcome to fdisk (util-linux 2.33.1).
Changes will remain in memory only, until you decide to write them.
Be careful before using the write command.

fdisk: cannot open /dev/sda1: Permission denied
pi@retropie:~ $

as i figured may display something... i least have my roms on the server.... i guess ill pull the hard drive and test it in windows or unraid to see if it has a file system

i guess that executable fstab had to do it as it really fell apart after that ill test the ssd now in windows

mitu

@comet424 said in how do you empty deleted files with MC:

but i wonder if the UUID with the rw,exec and forgetting that 2 at the end correupted it then?

No, that would not corrupt the filesystem/disc.

how do i check the FS on the SSD? i only really know windows

Run sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda and it should list the partitions on the disc. Try to mount it using the mount command and see if you can read what's on it.

sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/usb0 -t vfat

Check /media/usb0 for the ROM files.

how do i do it in linux here

I suggest you use the automatic mounting method, if you're not familiar with the Linux commands.

comet424

@mitu
ok ill try that.

and reason i went with the manual mode is the slow problems Nespi4 and that it unmounts on its own when you do a reboot or emulation reboot
or like how emulation config files hangs for 2 min.. so had to do the manual mode

but i chose that exec rw version in the fstab and thats when things just gone really crazy

i had this issue 6 months ago with the 1TB SSD WD and i got help but i found the steps we did then didnt 100% work with the 250GB this time.. and last time was NTFS and this is fat32 so i tried to follow that then

but ill give those a try and see what happens..

comet424

@mitu

guess the file system just corrupted.. ill pop it out and shove in windows or unraid and erase the SSD and just copy over
probably unraid to format it since it can do bigger where windows cant
ill re copy things over and ill get back to you later.. ill retry the UUID in fstab after a clean format
as this frustrating

pi@retropie:~ $ sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
fdisk: cannot open /dev/sda: Input/output error
pi@retropie:~ $ sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda1
fdisk: cannot open /dev/sda1: Input/output error
pi@retropie:~ $ sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/usb0 -t vfat
mount: /media/usb0: can't read superblock on /dev/sda1.
pi@retropie:~ $

a

comet424

@mitu
so file system was file but i moved all the files off the ssd.. erased the partition and re formated for Fat32
and then moved the files back
i also got a new UUID number the short form one
but so if a rem out the UUID in Fstab and the

pi@retropie:~ $ ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/
total 0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Dec 13 20:15 9290-791F -> ../../sda1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Dec 13 20:15 AC15-4763 -> ../../mmcblk0p1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Dec 13 20:15 f1351d7a-72a6-4d65-b1e2-62653795df48 -> ../../mmcblk0p2
pi@retropie:~ $ sudo mount -a
mount: /proc: \proc already mounted or mount point busy.
pi@retropie:~ $ sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda1
Disk /dev/sda1: 232.9 GiB, 250058113024 bytes, 488394752 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0x00000000
pi@retropie:~ $ sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/usb0 -t vfat
pi@retropie:~ $ mc


pi@retropie:~ $ cd /media/usb0
pi@retropie:/media/usb0 $ cd retropie-mount
pi@retropie:/media/usb0/retropie-mount $ cd roms
pi@retropie:/media/usb0/retropie-mount/roms $

i still get usbmount@dev-sda/server even when usb mounting is off

so with usb mount services enabled..
the SSD mounts the roms

when i disable the usb mount services
and edit the fstab it cant the roms so emulation issue

these commands are with USB services Off the FStab file enabled for that UUID

pi@retropie:~ $ ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/
total 0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Dec 13 20:27 9290-791F -> ../../sda1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Dec 13 20:27 AC15-4763 -> ../../mmcblk0p1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Dec 13 20:27 f1351d7a-72a6-4d65-b1e2-62653795df48 -> ../../mmcblk0p2
pi@retropie:~ $

pi@retropie:~ $ sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda1
Disk /dev/sda1: 232.9 GiB, 250058113024 bytes, 488394752 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0x00000000
pi@retropie:~ $

pi@retropie:~ $ sudo mount -a
mount: /proc: \proc already mounted or mount point busy.
pi@retropie:~ $

pi@retropie:~ $ df
Filesystem     1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/root       30368644   2886112  26206944  10% /
devtmpfs         1801484         0   1801484   0% /dev
tmpfs            1933580         0   1933580   0% /dev/shm
tmpfs            1933580      9632   1923948   1% /run
tmpfs               5120         4      5116   1% /run/lock
tmpfs            1933580         0   1933580   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
/dev/mmcblk0p1    261868     55708    206160  22% /boot
/dev/sda1      243721336 115772748 127948588  48% /home/pi/RetroPie
tmpfs             386716         0    386716   0% /run/user/1000
pi@retropie:~ $

pi@retropie:~ $ cd /home/pi
pi@retropie:~ $ ls
RetroPie  RetroPie-Setup
pi@retropie:~ $ cd RetroPie
pi@retropie:~/RetroPie $ ls
retropie-mount
pi@retropie:~/RetroPie $


\proc            /proc           proc    defaults          0       0
PARTUUID=3c0d1f86-01  /boot           vfat    defaults          0       2
PARTUUID=3c0d1f86-02  /               ext4    defaults,noatime  0       1
# a swapfile is not a swap partition, no line here
#   use  dphys-swapfile swap[on|off]  for that
UUID=9290-791F  /home/pi/RetroPie       vfat    nofail,user,uid=pi,gid=pi       0       2

the roms show up fine under retropie-mount

but i still get the usbmount fail and i didnt try the rw,exec version for the UUID
but it is mounting

what else you need me to test.. but least i dont have that long number its a 4 characters then a dash then 4 characters

do i change the /home/pi/RetroPie in the fstab to /home/pi/RetroPie/retropie-mount
or do i move all the files out of the retromount folder to the room then on the SSD since its least mounting or least the file system is showing

comet424

so its mounting
with the fstab
UUID=9290-791F /home/pi/RetroPie vfat nofail,user,uid=pi,gid=pi 0 2

i had to move those files out of the retropie-mount and put the folders in root

its still failing usbmount@dev-sda service
and still loading config files slow as can be.. so manually mount finally works, but its is not improving speeds yet

but least its mounting through the fstab must been corrpted SSD file system
so that part is working just still no improved speed still slow and still booting up slow

comet424

only getting average of 5m/s over the network from my 7200rpm drive to the SSD on retropie but i know when i had the 1TB 6 months ago i was getting close to 100m/s so something slowing this down still

mitu

@comet424 said in how do you empty deleted files with MC:

its still failing usbmount@dev-sda service

You can ignore that error, it's harmless. It means there's no partition on /dev/sda (which is normal, since the partition is on /dev/sda1).

and still loading config files slow as can be.. so manually mount finally works, but its is not improving speeds yet

That may be the drive's speed or the issue with the NesPI case SATA controller.

comet424

@mitu

oh ok that is frustrating all this work and all these trouble shooting and find out still cant get improvements
guess its just going to be slow.. you think the sata to usb for the nespi could be upgraded
the ssd i should be getting 520mb/s well least i get that in crystal mark bench marks

but ya frustrating... least the issue of loosing the mount wont happen when its manually mounted

and what does that exec rw the one for fstab
for excecuting commands what does that allow you do to?? as i never tried it yet with this setup the way i have it right now least its finally working

guess ill live with it unless the nespi comes out with firmware i guess

comet424

@mitu i figured it out/ remembered for the slow speed issue

for anyone with the Nespi4 enclosures you gotta add
usb-storage.quirks=152d:0562:u

to the /boot/cmdline.txt file adding it at the beginning..

so instead of 3 min 30 seconds to load up the configuration files before it shows up the retropie screen.. now it only takes 28 seconds to sit at the loading configuaration

and now i get 80meg/s instead of the 5meg/s

gonna write steps in a text file the procedure so i can remember next time the orders and what to add if i format or build another one of thess