how do you empty deleted files with MC

comet424

@mitu so the man fstab means manual add file system? for the 2

so i tried again
UUID=4A099D4A0F439B23 /home/pi/RetroPie vfat rw,exec,uid=pi,gid=pi,umask=022 0 2

added the extra 2... and yet again it corrupted soo many failed com errors etc
and then when i remmed it out using Parted Magic again it wouldnt boot up

so i cant see what difference from my older post i had ntfs and 1tb drive but this is 250gb set for Fat32
the commands in old post
https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/27809/ssd-doesnt-always-mount/29?_=1607815702974
dont seem to be working some are

so should i keep the File system fat32? i have retropie-mount folder on the SSD
what should the manual fstab be since i redownloading retropie iso to the SD card

should it be this
/home/pi/RetroPie vfat nofail,user,uid=pi,gid=pi 0 2

not the
/home/pi/RetroPie vfat rw,exec,uid=pi,gid=pi,umask=022 0 2

i did the 2nd one for getting maybe MSDos programs to run as i cant seem to get my Command and Conqurer to run on dosbox figured the option for the execuatble will fix it

mitu

@comet424 said in how do you empty deleted files with MC:

so i tried again
UUID=4A099D4A0F439B23 /home/pi/RetroPie vfat rw,exec,uid=pi,gid=pi,umask=022 0 2
added the extra 2... and yet again it corrupted soo many failed com errors etc
and then when i remmed it out using Parted Magic again it wouldnt boot up

Are you sure the UUID is correct for your external disc ? Post the complete /etc/fstab.

comet424

@mitu
i seem to be having major issues trying to mount manually with the 250GB WD Blue drive i didn have this issue with the 1TB but i dont have that setup here i know the dmesg command didnt work right for it and doesnt work that well here

but for this 250GB SSD setup this is my setup
SSD formated Fat32
folder retropie-mount <all roms under it>

i install retropie
<boots up and it fails the usb@.... mount> i forget what it says rest go Green "OK"
i configure joypad
i install dosbox and vice
i add SSH
i add the samba

i ssh in
and run

pi@retropie:~ $ ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/
total 0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Dec 13 15:03 4A099D4A0F439B23 -> ../../sda1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Dec 13 15:03 AC15-4763 -> ../../mmcblk0p1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Dec 13 15:03 f1351d7a-72a6-4d65-b1e2-62653795df48 -> ../../mmcblk0p2

i then

cd /etc
sudo nano fstab

proc            /proc           proc    defaults          0       0
PARTUUID=3c0d1f86-01  /boot           vfat    defaults          0       2
PARTUUID=3c0d1f86-02  /               ext4    defaults,noatime  0       1
# a swapfile is not a swap partition, no line here
#   use  dphys-swapfile swap[on|off]  for that
UUID=4A099D4A0F439B23   /home/pi/RetroPie       vfat    nofail,user,uid=pi,gid=pi       0       2

i chose the other one this time not that exec it seems to mess it up totally

then i save
then i did the run raspi-config and goto configurartions and disble the usb mount service
and reboot.. it boots up but still slow.. and now i cant remember while typing this if it mounted the roms i dont think so i think only mounted priper me editig the fstab..

this last time i did from the manual mount documentation

sudo mv -v /home/pi/RetroPie/* /media/usb0/

i then run the raspi config and goto configurations and disable the usb mount service
i then rebooted
it still fails the "usb@mount... whatever it says" but i turned off automount
when it boots up it tells me there is no emulation goto the website and goes to the command prompt

is this because i formated in fat32? when i did the other setup it was a NFTS but i remember you guys saying and documentation Fat32 is better.. but is fat32 the issue with Western Digital? i havent had this much problems before and this time i was trying to do it the proper way Fat32 but been having issues is it WD on the black list? and maybe i need to format NTFS and i forget when you manualy mount usb do you scrap the retropie-mount folder and just post everything in the root of the drive

just cant figure whats going on..

mitu

I don't think FAT32 vs. NTFS is the issue. Both should work as well, FAT32 being better supported by Linux natively at this time.

i then run the raspi config and goto configurations and disable the usb mount service

The usbromservice is not configured in raspi-config, it's a RetroPie addition, did you disable it from RetroPie-Setup ?

i then rebooted
it still fails the "usb@mount... whatever it says" but i turned off automount

when it boots up it tells me there is no emulation goto the website and goes to the command prompt

Run mount and post the output - is the disk mounted on /home/pi/RetroPie ?

comet424

@mitu sorry with my dislexia i forget .. and betwween raspiconfig and the retrosetup i mix them up

and thats what i ment when i mentioned i disabled usb mount service under raspi confg i ment i disabled it under the retrosetup and then i rebooted
what fails is the

usbmount@dev... something something

and then posts
so with the error shows there is no system
check that your paths are correct in the systems
configuration file, and your game directory has at least
one game with the correct extensions

visit emulationstartion.org

thats what i got after i did the mv in the documentation i posted
as for the disk mounted i not sure but here is the output

pi@retropie:~ $ mount
/dev/mmcblk0p2 on / type ext4 (rw,noatime)
devtmpfs on /dev type devtmpfs (rw,relatime,size=1801484k,nr_inodes=97927,mode=755)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
proc on /proc type proc (rw,relatime)
securityfs on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620,ptmxmode=000)
tmpfs on /run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,mode=755)
tmpfs on /run/lock type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,size=5120k)
tmpfs on /sys/fs/cgroup type tmpfs (ro,nosuid,nodev,noexec,mode=755)
cgroup2 on /sys/fs/cgroup/unified type cgroup2 (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,nsdelegate)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/systemd type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,xattr,name=systemd)
none on /sys/fs/bpf type bpf (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,mode=700)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/cpu,cpuacct type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,cpu,cpuacct)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/blkio type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,blkio)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/freezer type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,freezer)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/devices type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,devices)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/pids type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,pids)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/net_cls,net_prio type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,net_cls,net_prio)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/cpuset type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,cpuset)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/perf_event type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,perf_event)
systemd-1 on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type autofs (rw,relatime,fd=30,pgrp=1,timeout=0,minproto=5,maxproto=5,direct)
sunrpc on /run/rpc_pipefs type rpc_pipefs (rw,relatime)
mqueue on /dev/mqueue type mqueue (rw,relatime)
debugfs on /sys/kernel/debug type debugfs (rw,relatime)
configfs on /sys/kernel/config type configfs (rw,relatime)
/dev/mmcblk0p1 on /boot type vfat (rw,relatime,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=437,iocharset=ascii,shortname=mixed,errors=remount-ro)
tmpfs on /run/user/1000 type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,size=386716k,mode=700,uid=1000,gid=1000)
pi@retropie:~ $

mitu

The mount output doesn't show the external disc being mounted, that's why EmulationStation doesn't start - the ROM folders are not present.

If you run mount -a from the command line, what's the output ? Do you get an error from the system while trying to mount the external disc ?

comet424

@mitu
wonder where the mount files went to then?
the emulationstation error had come up after i typed

sudo mv -v /home/pi/RetroPie/* /media/usb0/

as i was following the manual steps
so i dunno where files are unless i guess plug into the computer?

as for the mount error

pi@retropie:~ $ mount -a
mount: only root can use "--all" option
pi@retropie:~ $ mount --all
mount: only root can use "--all" option
pi@retropie:~ $

as for the error trying to mount the external disc i dunno? i only see that error of the usb@mount when you first turn on the raspberry pi and retropie is booting up doing its {OK] checks and that one fails or when i do a reboot

comet424

@mitu
i guess i need to move the files? to a retropie-mount maybe

pi@retropie:~ $ cd /media
pi@retropie:/media $ cd usb0
pi@retropie:/media/usb0 $ ls
BIOS  retropiemenu  roms  splashscreens
pi@retropie:/media/usb0 $
pi@retropie:/media/usb0 $ cd roms
pi@retropie:/media/usb0/roms $ ls
amstradcpc  atari5200  atarilynx  gamegear  gbc            mastersystem  neogeo  ngpc      sega32x  snes
arcade      atari7800  fba        gb        genesis        megadrive     nes     pcengine  segacd   vectrex
atari2600   atari800   fds        gba       mame-libretro  n64           ngp     psx       sg-1000  zxspectrum
pi@retropie:/media/usb0/roms $

mitu

@comet424 said in how do you empty deleted files with MC:

pi@retropie:~ $ mount -a
mount: only root can use "--all" option

You need to use sudo before the command, forgot about that.

so i dunno where files are unless i guess plug into the computer?

In /media/usb0, where you moved them.

i guess i need to move the files? to a retropie-mount maybe

You already moved the files, but /media/usb0 should be the mountpoint for your USB drive. retropie-mount is the location when you're using the automatic method, you say you're using the manual method and you've disabled the usbromservice module.

Did you mount the USB drive - to /media/usb0 - before moving the files from /home/pi/RetroPie ? Otherwise, even if the USB disc would work with your /etc/fstab, the drive would be empty.

comet424

@mitu
so drive must be mounted since i can see it right??

mc wouldnt let me make a folder and i think its because its really on the drive but you cant see it?

pi@retropie:/media/usb0/roms $ cd ..
pi@retropie:/media/usb0 $ mkdir retropie-mount
mkdir: cannot create directory ‘retropie-mount’: Permission denied
pi@retropie:/media/usb0 $ ls
BIOS  retropiemenu  roms  splashscreens
pi@retropie:/media/usb0 $ mkdir test
mkdir: cannot create directory ‘test’: Permission denied
pi@retropie:/media/usb0 $ df
Filesystem     1K-blocks    Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/root       30368644 2874152  26218904  10% /
devtmpfs         1801484       0   1801484   0% /dev
tmpfs            1933580       0   1933580   0% /dev/shm
tmpfs            1933580    9600   1923980   1% /run
tmpfs               5120       4      5116   1% /run/lock
tmpfs            1933580       0   1933580   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
/dev/mmcblk0p1    261868   55708    206160  22% /boot
tmpfs             386716       0    386716   0% /run/user/1000
pi@retropie:/media/usb0 $

or its only kinda mounted? as i cant make a directory test but the usb0 is there but the df shows no

mitu

No, the drive is not mounted. It should show up in a line containing /dev/sda1 on the 1st column, in the df command output.

The reason you're getting the errors for mkdir is that /media/usb0 is not writeable by the pi user (which is the default) and it's not on the external USB disc.

comet424

@mitu
from what i remember
when i do the clean install of retropie
and when it first boots up then reboots for the file system

it fails the usbmount@dev....

then takes 2 3 min for emulationstation to finish loading config files
then loads up 23 emulatiors i guess.. and then my roms are loaded like nes mame
etc

then i cant remember i did couple different ways enabling usb and disabling etc

but what i remember is all the roms are in retropie-mount folder on the SSD
then i installed vice and dosbox last time i tried i didnt install samba shares

then i edited the fstab file and added the
UUID=4A099D4A0F439B23 /home/pi/RetroPie vfat nofail,user,uid=pi,gid=pi 0 2
because when i did the exec rw line version thats when it really ruined it and locked me out

then i ran
sudo mv -v /home/pi/RetroPie/* /media/usb0/

then i ran the retro-setup i disabled usb mount service
and did a perform a reboot.
and when going through the checks it still fail the usbmount@dev...
and then says emulation is gone
and then i get the command prompt

so ok i ran the sudo

pi@retropie:/media/usb0 $ sudo mount -a
mount: /home/pi/RetroPie: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1, missing codepage or helper program, or other error.
pi@retropie:/media/usb0 $

guess i really buggered it up.. didnt i

so if the drive isnt mount then why is it showing up under usb0 as being mounted under /media/usb0
shouldnt it not show up anything

but ya i went into the /media/usb0/roms/nes and it shows nothing but how is it possible for a usb0 drive when its not there shouldnt it be nothing

do i delete usb0 w folder and reboot and will that let the drive remount?

mitu

pi@retropie:/media/usb0 $ sudo mount -a
mount: /home/pi/RetroPie: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1, missing codepage or helper program, or other error.

This looks like an un-formatted drive or - as the error says - wrong file system. Make sure the drive is properly formatted, then mount it first, before copying/moving the files from /home/pi/RetroPie/ to it.

comet424

so i used mc
and i copied /media/usb0/ to /home/pi/Retropie

and thats brought back the retropie gui

just not the roms so least that part is back

comet424

@mitu ah ok

well the SD card doesnt have any of the roms on it in the first place.. i only did the mv because it was one of the steps

then SSD should probably have 100gb of roms on it
it was formated to Fat32 as thats how this post orginally started

but i wonder if the UUID with the rw,exec and forgetting that 2 at the end correupted it then?

how do i check the FS on the SSD? i only really know windows

how do i do it in linux here

comet424

i tried
pi@retropie:~ $ fdisk /dev/sda1

Welcome to fdisk (util-linux 2.33.1).
Changes will remain in memory only, until you decide to write them.
Be careful before using the write command.

fdisk: cannot open /dev/sda1: Permission denied
pi@retropie:~ $

as i figured may display something... i least have my roms on the server.... i guess ill pull the hard drive and test it in windows or unraid to see if it has a file system

i guess that executable fstab had to do it as it really fell apart after that ill test the ssd now in windows

mitu

@comet424 said in how do you empty deleted files with MC:

but i wonder if the UUID with the rw,exec and forgetting that 2 at the end correupted it then?

No, that would not corrupt the filesystem/disc.

how do i check the FS on the SSD? i only really know windows

Run sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda and it should list the partitions on the disc. Try to mount it using the mount command and see if you can read what's on it.

sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/usb0 -t vfat

Check /media/usb0 for the ROM files.

how do i do it in linux here

I suggest you use the automatic mounting method, if you're not familiar with the Linux commands.

comet424

@mitu
ok ill try that.

and reason i went with the manual mode is the slow problems Nespi4 and that it unmounts on its own when you do a reboot or emulation reboot
or like how emulation config files hangs for 2 min.. so had to do the manual mode

but i chose that exec rw version in the fstab and thats when things just gone really crazy

i had this issue 6 months ago with the 1TB SSD WD and i got help but i found the steps we did then didnt 100% work with the 250GB this time.. and last time was NTFS and this is fat32 so i tried to follow that then

but ill give those a try and see what happens..

comet424

@mitu

guess the file system just corrupted.. ill pop it out and shove in windows or unraid and erase the SSD and just copy over
probably unraid to format it since it can do bigger where windows cant
ill re copy things over and ill get back to you later.. ill retry the UUID in fstab after a clean format
as this frustrating

pi@retropie:~ $ sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
fdisk: cannot open /dev/sda: Input/output error
pi@retropie:~ $ sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda1
fdisk: cannot open /dev/sda1: Input/output error
pi@retropie:~ $ sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/usb0 -t vfat
mount: /media/usb0: can't read superblock on /dev/sda1.
pi@retropie:~ $

a

comet424

@mitu
so file system was file but i moved all the files off the ssd.. erased the partition and re formated for Fat32
and then moved the files back
i also got a new UUID number the short form one
but so if a rem out the UUID in Fstab and the

pi@retropie:~ $ ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/
total 0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Dec 13 20:15 9290-791F -> ../../sda1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Dec 13 20:15 AC15-4763 -> ../../mmcblk0p1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Dec 13 20:15 f1351d7a-72a6-4d65-b1e2-62653795df48 -> ../../mmcblk0p2
pi@retropie:~ $ sudo mount -a
mount: /proc: \proc already mounted or mount point busy.
pi@retropie:~ $ sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda1
Disk /dev/sda1: 232.9 GiB, 250058113024 bytes, 488394752 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0x00000000
pi@retropie:~ $ sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/usb0 -t vfat
pi@retropie:~ $ mc


pi@retropie:~ $ cd /media/usb0
pi@retropie:/media/usb0 $ cd retropie-mount
pi@retropie:/media/usb0/retropie-mount $ cd roms
pi@retropie:/media/usb0/retropie-mount/roms $

i still get usbmount@dev-sda/server even when usb mounting is off

so with usb mount services enabled..
the SSD mounts the roms

when i disable the usb mount services
and edit the fstab it cant the roms so emulation issue

these commands are with USB services Off the FStab file enabled for that UUID

pi@retropie:~ $ ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/
total 0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Dec 13 20:27 9290-791F -> ../../sda1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Dec 13 20:27 AC15-4763 -> ../../mmcblk0p1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Dec 13 20:27 f1351d7a-72a6-4d65-b1e2-62653795df48 -> ../../mmcblk0p2
pi@retropie:~ $

pi@retropie:~ $ sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda1
Disk /dev/sda1: 232.9 GiB, 250058113024 bytes, 488394752 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0x00000000
pi@retropie:~ $

pi@retropie:~ $ sudo mount -a
mount: /proc: \proc already mounted or mount point busy.
pi@retropie:~ $

pi@retropie:~ $ df
Filesystem     1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/root       30368644   2886112  26206944  10% /
devtmpfs         1801484         0   1801484   0% /dev
tmpfs            1933580         0   1933580   0% /dev/shm
tmpfs            1933580      9632   1923948   1% /run
tmpfs               5120         4      5116   1% /run/lock
tmpfs            1933580         0   1933580   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
/dev/mmcblk0p1    261868     55708    206160  22% /boot
/dev/sda1      243721336 115772748 127948588  48% /home/pi/RetroPie
tmpfs             386716         0    386716   0% /run/user/1000
pi@retropie:~ $

pi@retropie:~ $ cd /home/pi
pi@retropie:~ $ ls
RetroPie  RetroPie-Setup
pi@retropie:~ $ cd RetroPie
pi@retropie:~/RetroPie $ ls
retropie-mount
pi@retropie:~/RetroPie $


\proc            /proc           proc    defaults          0       0
PARTUUID=3c0d1f86-01  /boot           vfat    defaults          0       2
PARTUUID=3c0d1f86-02  /               ext4    defaults,noatime  0       1
# a swapfile is not a swap partition, no line here
#   use  dphys-swapfile swap[on|off]  for that
UUID=9290-791F  /home/pi/RetroPie       vfat    nofail,user,uid=pi,gid=pi       0       2

the roms show up fine under retropie-mount

but i still get the usbmount fail and i didnt try the rw,exec version for the UUID
but it is mounting

what else you need me to test.. but least i dont have that long number its a 4 characters then a dash then 4 characters

do i change the /home/pi/RetroPie in the fstab to /home/pi/RetroPie/retropie-mount
or do i move all the files out of the retromount folder to the room then on the SSD since its least mounting or least the file system is showing