RetroPie forum home
    • Recent
    • Tags
    • Popular
    • Home
    • Docs
    • Register
    • Login
    Please do not post a support request without first reading and following the advice in https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

    Controls randomly locked for 1 or 2 secs

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Help and Support
    freezeslockedcontrollerszero delay
    23 Posts 8 Posters 4.2k Views
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • N
      Niktus81
      last edited by Niktus81

      Hi everyone
      I did started to notice that sometimes, controls have a "blind" short period. If you are pointing towards specific direction or pressing some button, it will automatically repeat that for 1 or 2 secs even if you released your stick or button ... same if you are not pressing anything nor pointing stick to any direction, it will not detect any new input for 1 or 2 secs

      This does not happen very often, thankfully, but it is really noticeable when it happens. It means you can't play for that period of time.

      I have my retropie fully updated running on PI4 2G, I've seeing this on games and emulators as diverse as Asteroids Deluxe in lr-mame2003 and Virtua Tennis 2 in lr-flyCast.
      I'm using USB zero delay encoders for my 2 players controls, works like a charm leaving this...

      Somebody experienced something similar?
      Thank you!

      IanDaemonI K R 3 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • IanDaemonI
        IanDaemon @Niktus81
        last edited by IanDaemon

        @niktus81 Nope, sorry. I can't relate. I'm on a 3B and a 3B+.

        • 5 Favorite Arcade Games in MAME
        • Cocktail Cabinet Games
        • Check out the MAME RoW
        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
        • K
          kounabi22 @Niktus81
          last edited by

          @niktus81

          yes happend to me also...its like it stuck for those seconds..

          have pi4 2g

          Currently running Retropie 4.7.19 on a Pi 4B 2GB
          Overclock Settings: CPU 2000, GPU 600.

          N 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
          • N
            Niktus81 @kounabi22
            last edited by

            @kounabi22 glad to hear I'm not the only one... not sure if this is a hardware thing or software configuration

            IanDaemonI 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • IanDaemonI
              IanDaemon @Niktus81
              last edited by

              @niktus81 Does it happen in non-Libretro emulators?

              • 5 Favorite Arcade Games in MAME
              • Cocktail Cabinet Games
              • Check out the MAME RoW
              N 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • N
                Niktus81 @IanDaemon
                last edited by

                @iandaemon at the time, I think I'm not using any emulator that is not libretro, but if I find that it happens in that scenario too, I'll let you know

                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • R
                  rott42 @Niktus81
                  last edited by

                  @niktus81 I had the same thing on every core I have, including redream, amiberry and all the libretro cores. It started after a system update on my pi 4, and I found that the control lock was only happening when my audio was set to use the 3.5 jack as audio source. I replaced my very old monitor to newer one and changed my audio settings to HDMI. I checked this issue long time and every time I return to audio through the 3.5 jack, the issue return. HDMI setting works fine.

                  N 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                  • N
                    Niktus81 @rott42
                    last edited by

                    @rott42 Thanks for the information, really useful.
                    I'm using 3.5 jack for audio connected to a power amplifier and speakers for the audio system, but I can try to change audio output and check what happens in that case.

                    IanDaemonI 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • IanDaemonI
                      IanDaemon @Niktus81
                      last edited by

                      @niktus81 I feared running into problems with the 3.5mm jack so I have the HDMI cable running into a device that separates the audio and video signals. I send the video to a television and the audio to an amp.

                      • 5 Favorite Arcade Games in MAME
                      • Cocktail Cabinet Games
                      • Check out the MAME RoW
                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                      • T
                        toigo
                        last edited by toigo

                        I didn't see this post, but also just posted about what sounds like a very similar issue I'm having. It seems to be most common for me with analog sticks in N64, but may also be a general system issue like you're mentioning. Same timing where it started with the latest big retropi update.

                        https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/29519/controllers-cut-out-briefly-in-n64-emulators

                        I also use audio output to my 3.5 jack as well since I use a CRT and an amplifier hooked up to speakers. I can try to switch to HDMI audio tomorrow and see if that does anything.

                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                        • T
                          toigo
                          last edited by

                          Well this was it! I went into raspi-config and switched to HDMI audio and it COMPLETELY SOLVED THIS PROBLEM. Who would have thought that an audio setting would somehow make controllers stop working for a few seconds.

                          R N 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 1
                          • R
                            rott42 @toigo
                            last edited by

                            @toigo I found it by an accident. After last big system update, I've noticed that my audio was off. It seemed that the update changed my audio to HDMI settings. As soon as I switched the audio settings back to the 3.5 jack, the issue with the controller started. I switched again to HDMI and the problem was solved. I guess some firmware update causes this issue, but I am not an expert. Glad it was solved, but it seems that the 3.5 jack on the pi is unusable for me now.

                            N 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                            • N
                              Niktus81 @rott42
                              last edited by Niktus81

                              I did not have the time to do some tests like you people did, but it is good to know what it seems the root cause for this problem.

                              Amazing that a simple thing as an electric audio signal can have this kind of impact.
                              As I´m using an old 19 LCD square monitor and a power amplifier for the sound, HDMI is not in my universe right now, so I´m stuck here.

                              Really hope for some kind of firmware update to solve this issue.
                              Thank you all for your replies!

                              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                              • N
                                Niktus81 @toigo
                                last edited by

                                Solution confirmed, found a way to extract audio signal from HDMI cable, never again a freeze with controllers ... hope that the problem with 3.5 is solved anyway at some point

                                K 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                                • K
                                  kounabi22 @Niktus81
                                  last edited by

                                  @niktus81

                                  well i buy from ebay a converter but i have no audio output....try some sound option but no luck.
                                  converter works with other hdmi like tv

                                  s-l1600.jpg

                                  Currently running Retropie 4.7.19 on a Pi 4B 2GB
                                  Overclock Settings: CPU 2000, GPU 600.

                                  K 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • K
                                    kounabi22 @kounabi22
                                    last edited by

                                    @kounabi22

                                    ok found a solution only in one hdmi(the one near the power plug) the audio work

                                    Currently running Retropie 4.7.19 on a Pi 4B 2GB
                                    Overclock Settings: CPU 2000, GPU 600.

                                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • ClydeC
                                      Clyde
                                      last edited by

                                      I also do have this problem with an up-to-date Retropie 4.7 on my Pi 4. Since I had a similar hdmi converter lying around, it became my provisional solution for now.

                                      Let's hope that future updates of Raspberry Pi OS will fix this issue someday.

                                      @kounabi22 said in Controls randomly locked for 1 or 2 secs:

                                      ok found a solution only in one hdmi(the one near the power plug) the audio work

                                      Strangely, on my system only the other hdmi port away from the power plug has video and sound. 😛

                                      K 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • K
                                        kounabi22 @Clyde
                                        last edited by

                                        @clyde said in Controls randomly locked for 1 or 2 secs:

                                        Strangely, on my system only the other hdmi port away from the power plug has video and sound. 😛

                                        weird......

                                        Currently running Retropie 4.7.19 on a Pi 4B 2GB
                                        Overclock Settings: CPU 2000, GPU 600.

                                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                        • P
                                          pissedoffparent
                                          last edited by

                                          @rott42 said in Controls randomly locked for 1 or 2 secs:

                                          my audio to HDMI setti

                                          been going crazy trying to fix this issue. got another microsd card and imaged it to see if that fixed it. Nothing would work. Switched from a monitor to TV and changed to HDMI for audio and it fixed the issue.

                                          sirhenrythe5thS 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                                          • sirhenrythe5thS
                                            sirhenrythe5th @pissedoffparent
                                            last edited by

                                            Just to confirm i got it right:
                                            as soon as you use the 3,5" jack for audio you run into these problems with USB-Controllers?
                                            So the Pi2Scart Device is also useless as it uses the 3,5"-Jack to get the audio-signal?

                                            -- Retro-Achievements Username: SirALX --
                                            RetroRatio: 1.88
                                            Started Games beaten: 2,47%
                                            Site Rank: 4382/93743 ranked users (TOP 4.76%)
                                            Last seen in [The Legend of Zelda: Lost in Time (HACK) [N64], exploring Hyrule at Night]

                                            ClydeC 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                            • First post
                                              Last post

                                            Contributions to the project are always appreciated, so if you would like to support us with a donation you can do so here.

                                            Hosting provided by Mythic-Beasts. See the Hosting Information page for more information.