Old Computer Appreciation Thread

Folly · 7 Apr 2021, 16:48

@adambegood said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

@folly I never think about github for this type of thing... (and now I need to reset my password, so I'll do that in a mo and maybe upload it there.

It is on my Google Drive now as I was already logged into that: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nzjPi4EhOtJbH3gyBOZa85BUYt6KQU0D/view?usp=sharing

It isn't amazing or anything but it looks alright in Emulation Station, I think.

looking nice !

AdamBeGood · 7 Apr 2021, 18:59

@folly @Zering Have you guys got Alltynex working on Towns. I have a .h0 hard disk image, which unsurprisingly didn’t work, and then I located a bootable .iso version, but that just goes round in a loop - it is running a batch file or something similar but then restarts to the FM Towns opening screen repeatedly.

The Japanese error message translates as “the system cannot boot because there is not enough remaining memory. Internal error. Restarting the system”.

Any idea if we can increase the memory available in lr-mess?

It’s meant to be a very good shooter, so I am keen to get this one working if possible.

Zering · 7 Apr 2021, 19:53

@adambegood Nope, never got it to work. It's one of the few exclusives on the Towns too. Would be very interested in a fix.

AdamBeGood · 4 Jul 2021, 22:13

@zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

@adambegood Nope, never got it to work. It's one of the few exclusives on the Towns too. Would be very interested in a fix.

Cool, I’ll have a fiddle tomorrow.

Super Shooting Towns takes me to a GUI as well, I haven't worked that one out as yet.

Edit: I fancied Azure as well, no joy. Frustrating.

Further Edit: All I can find for Azure is an .img without a .cue, I’ve tried to create a .cue but that didn’t work. Also tried changing the .img to an .iso and a .bin, but it throws errors. Maybe something is wrong with the file. A shame as it looks graphically very good.

Got Super Shooting Towns working, had to move the mouse to a different USB port and click on the game pad icon in the GUI.

Zering · 7 Apr 2021, 21:24

@adambegood The best way to run FM Towns games is with chds, I recommend you find some if you can.

AdamBeGood · 4 Jul 2021, 23:11

@zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

@adambegood The best way to run FM Towns games is with chds, I recommend you find some if you can.

Hmmm, I haven’t as yet, I’ll have another look.

Edit: Looking at MAME .226 now, but can’t see where Towns is marked. I’ll try again in the morning. Probably me being thick. Any idea if Azure is in there? That is pretty much the only game I need now.

Further Edit: I may have found it, doesn't appear to have Azure if I am looking at the right set.

Zering · 8 Apr 2021, 08:25

@adambegood In my experience if there are no Mame chds the games don't run.

Folly · 4 Aug 2021, 09:29

I will test some too, if I have some time left today.

AdamBeGood · 4 Aug 2021, 10:39

@zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

@adambegood In my experience if there are no Mame chds the games don't run.

No, that isn't the case - mine are mostly .img/.cue and some .bin/.cue and they run fine.

I've really been trying to have a look at Alltynex. I've extracted the .iso to try and see how it works, but I can't even see where the game is executed within the structure. This website had some interesting sounding information (http://ysflight.in.coocan.jp/FM/towns/internalCDROM/e.html), and it sounded like a relevant situation to what I see, but I am struggling with it now. Maybe I'll have another look later, I should probably do some work now.

Edit: I am just running it through ScummVM now, but it turns out the FM Towns version of Zak McKraken is much prettier than than the PC and Amiga versions. This is a good find, I've never played that Lucasfilm adventure through before.

Zering · 8 Apr 2021, 11:03

@adambegood So you managed to get the mouse to work properly??

AdamBeGood · 4 Aug 2021, 14:44

@zering said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

@adambegood So you managed to get the mouse to work properly??

It works for Monkey Island 2 and Super Shooting Towns, yep. I have it plugged in the bottom right USB port, but beyond that I've done nothing to make it work.

Edit: Do you have Azure? I am really finding it hard to locate a copy beyond the .IMG that I have, which I don't think works.

Further Edit: Still messing with Alltynex. It doesn't seem to be AUTOEXEC.BAT or DOS.BAT which is running to cause the issue. Very confused now.

Folly · 4 Aug 2021, 16:11

@adambegood

I also have an Alltynex harddrive img.

Seems that there is an other system in mamedev called fmtownssj.
Perhaps we can try this system, which has harddrive support :

pi@raspberrypi:~ $ /opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -listmedia fmtownssj
SYSTEM           MEDIA NAME       (brief)    IMAGE FILE EXTENSIONS SUPPORTED
---------------- --------------------------- -------------------------------
fmtownssj        floppydisk1      (flop1)    .bin  .d77  .d88  .1dd  .dfi  .hfe  .imd  .ipf  .mfi  .mfm  .td0  .cqm  .cqi  .dsk  
                 floppydisk2      (flop2)    .bin  .d77  .d88  .1dd  .dfi  .hfe  .imd  .ipf  .mfi  .mfm  .td0  .cqm  .cqi  .dsk  
                 cdrom            (cdrm)     .chd  .cue  .toc  .nrg  .gdi  .iso  .cdr  
                 memcard          (memc)     .icm  
                 harddisk1        (hard1)    .chd  .hd   .hdv  .2mg  .hdi  
etc

If you want, you can try and install it also with this :

curl "https://raw.githubusercontent.com/FollyMaddy/RetroPie-Share/main/00-scripts-00/generate-systems-lr-mess_mame-2v0-alpha.sh" | bash -s fmtownssj

Edit : I just updated the script so the media hard1 can be detected and these module-scripts can be created.

AdamBeGood · 4 Aug 2021, 17:01

@folly I have no option for hard1 with that...

But, the cdrm does get me further with the bootable CD. I am in a GUI, but my mouse is not working as yet. Trying to proceed now.

Edit: It works! Almost unplayably choppy, but it works!

Further Edit: Run it underclocked and it runs much much better. This seems to work for other games as well, it makes the sound much much better in some cases - videos for Genocide Square are pretty much perfect now.

Now I just need to find Azure.

Thanks for the help with this, @Folly !

Folly · 8 Apr 2021, 15:59

@adambegood

You have to install install-fmtownssj-from-mamedev-system-fmtownssj-hard1.sh after creation.
But it didn't work for me with the .h0 file.

AdamBeGood · 8 Apr 2021, 16:01

@folly said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

@adambegood

You have to install install-fmtownssj-from-mamedev-system-fmtownssj-hard1.sh after creation.
But it didn't work for me with the .h0 file.

The bootable iso will with the new core.

Folly · 4 Aug 2021, 17:50

@adambegood

Can't find the iso can you give a hint ?
No joy here, I have given up.

AdamBeGood · 8 Apr 2021, 17:29

@folly said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

@adambegood

Can't find the iso can you give a hint ?
No joy here, I have given up.

Google "alltynex bootable iso"

Folly · 4 Aug 2021, 20:01

@adambegood said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

@folly said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

@adambegood

Can't find the iso can you give a hint ?
No joy here, I have given up.

Google "alltynex bootable iso"

Thx !

Found it after a very long search.
I had to break the boot process and run tmenu.
No mouse and joy buttons yet, but looks very nice :
(no mouse in desktop enviroment, booting in cli/emulationstation mouse ok)

AdamBeGood · 4 Aug 2021, 19:49

@folly said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

@adambegood said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

@folly said in Old Computer Appreciation Thread:

@adambegood

Can't find the iso can you give a hint ?
No joy here, I have given up.

Google "alltynex bootable iso"

Thx !

Found it after a very long search.
I had to break the boot process and run tmenu.
No mouse and joy buttons yet, but looks very nice :

How do you break the boot process?

Mine just worked in the end, after taking a while.

Edit: also, if you have any time and get the chance to take a look at Azure in Neo Kobe, I'd appreciate it. I can't get it to work.

Folly · 4 Aug 2021, 20:08

@adambegood

I have found that with the system fmtowns you get in a loop.
You just press ctrl+c before the little squares come.
Then you type tmenu. <- edit !

If you take the mame line with autoframeskip you have it running almost perfect with almost perfect sound.

With fmtownssj you have 8mb ram instead of 2mb.
It then boots directly into the OS but it's much slower and not really playable in both lr-mess and mame.