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      Folly @2Play
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      @2play said in new scriptmodules (lr-vice-xvic, gsplus, proper lr-mess integration!):

      @folly maybe the integrated roms need updating?
      dont know

      Indeed, that could be the case.
      We keep that in mind.

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        2Play
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        • Is there a way to speed up tape loading on lr-mess electron ?
        • ssd not working with flop1?
        • is there a similar quick load as SHIFT+F12 for tapes ?

        Your friend,
        2Play!

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          Folly @2Play
          last edited by Folly

          @2play said in new scriptmodules (lr-vice-xvic, gsplus, proper lr-mess integration!):

          • Is there a way to speed up tape loading on lr-mess electron ?

          Use fast-forward by pressing the hotkey "space" to speed up for a while.
          Don't know other methods, for now.

          • ssd not working with flop1?

          Tested a few and all worked.
          Perhaps not all files are supported.
          (Press a few times shift+f12 until it loads)
          .ssd should work as listed here :

          /opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -listmedia bbcb
          SYSTEM           MEDIA NAME       (brief)    IMAGE FILE EXTENSIONS SUPPORTED
          ---------------- --------------------------- -------------------------------
          bbcb             cassette         (cass)     .wav  .csw  .uef  
                           romimage1        (rom1)     .rom  .bin  
                           romimage2        (rom2)     .rom  .bin  
                           romimage3        (rom3)     .rom  .bin  
                           romimage4        (rom4)     .rom  .bin  
                           printout         (prin)     .prn  
                           floppydisk1      (flop1)    .ssd  .bbc  .img  .dsd  .adf  .ads  .adm  .adl  .fsd  .dsk  .ima  .ufi  .360  .d77  .d88  .1dd  .dfi  .hfe  .imd  .ipf  .mfi  .mfm  .td0  .cqm  .cqi  
                           floppydisk2      (flop2)    .ssd  .bbc  .img  .dsd  .adf  .ads  .adm  .adl  .fsd  .dsk  .ima  .ufi  .360  .d77  .d88  .1dd  .dfi  .hfe  .imd  .ipf  .mfi  .mfm  .td0  .cqm  .cqi
          
          • is there a similar quick load as SHIFT+F12 for tapes ?

          Read this post, you could create a similar .cmd file for a bbcmicro game :
          https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/28345/old-computer-appreciation-thread/1025
          Don't know if there is an other way though.

          You can find much information on :
          https://www.mamedev.org/

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            2Play @Folly
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            @folly thank you.
            btw if you keep pressed the SHIFT F12 on the wireless small KB autoload works on bbem.
            So far with bbc im great

            My ques above all were related to electron wiht mess. Ill test the fast fwrd

            By the way the Elkulator is the best for instant loading.
            The official side is missing the linux binary from the zip file. I wanted to test but needs compiling.
            I think i saw online that someone compiled a binary for RPi but cant find

            Elkulator v1.0 Linux supplement
            ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
            
            Compiling
            ~~~~~~~~~
            
            You will need the following libraries :
            
            Allegro 4.x
            OpenAL
            ALut
            Zlib
            
            Open a terminal window, navigate to the Elkulator directory then enter
            
            ./configure
            make
            
            then ./elkulator to run.
            
            Elkulator has been tested on x86-32 and x86-64 machines. No other architecture is guaranteed
            to work, and big-endian machines (eg PowerPC) almost certainly won't work.
            
            
            Linux specifics
            ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
            
            The menu is not available all the time. Press F11 to open it, then F11 to close again.
            
            The debugger is only available via the command line.
            
            Hardware line doubling mode is not available on Linux.
            
            Fullscreen mode doesn't appear to work correctly, at least on my machine. Elkulator takes over
            the screen, but the resolution never changes.
            
            Video performance is noticeably slower than on Windows. This is largely due to the lack
            of hardware acceleration support in Elkulator.
            
            
            Tom Walker
            b-em@bbcmicro.com
            

            I havent managed to load an ssd on electron yet

            Your friend,
            2Play!

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              Folly @2Play
              last edited by Folly

              @2play

              Sorry misunderstood.

              Will try electron with lr-mess. (.ssd should be supported : mame -listmedia electron )
              Will do some search on that Elkulator.

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                Folly @2Play
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                @2play said in new scriptmodules (lr-vice-xvic, gsplus, proper lr-mess integration!):

                @folly thank you.

                By the way the Elkulator is the best for instant loading.
                The official side is missing the linux binary from the zip file. I wanted to test but needs compiling.
                I think i saw online that someone compiled a binary for RPi but cant find

                I compiled Elkulator successfully on the pi4.
                But now I have to find the roms.
                I did some guess work and added some blank dummy files.
                It looks like it can work, here is the proof !

                2021-06-02-174925_1600x900_scrot-resized.png

                This is how I did the compile :

                • Download the source :
                  https://github.com/stardot/elkulator
                • Extract this and go to the directory with :
                cd /home/pi/Downloads/elkulator-master
                
                • Install the packages (aclocal wasn't found, so I used autotools-dev instead) :
                sudo apt-get install automake liballegro4-dev zlib1g-dev libalut-dev libopenal-dev autotools-dev
                
                • compile using :
                aclocal -I m4
                automake -a
                autoconf
                ./configure
                make
                
                • Run Elkulator
                ./elkulator
                

                (Edit : I found all the roms, which are shipped with the windows version 1.0 )
                It will ask for the roms, one by one :

                • os
                • os300.rom
                • adfs.rom
                • dfs.rom
                • basic.rom
                • sndrom
                • plus1.rom

                All the correct sha1sum's are :

                pi@raspberrypi:~/Downloads/elkulator-master $ sha1sum os;sha1sum *rom* | sort -k2
                2863b45dc880a7ed91ad9828795a3eb5ed0bcdd4  os
                e7c7a1094d50a3579751df2007269067c8ff6812  adfs.rom
                4a7393f3a45ea309f744441c16723e2ef447a281  basic.rom
                eaf340b64a0a747ec479e575cc7b07cf928fd845  dfs.rom
                e759e77efd8073c74a04b3907adcca4c6edd1cc8  os300.rom
                2de04ab7c81414d6c9c967f965c53fc276392463  plus1.rom
                2e409b92c97cda34ff25c2951e5f799125fe7e32  sndrom
                

                Loading disks will work too, see explanation post :

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                  2Play @Folly
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                  @folly I will def compile and test. Much much appreciated your contrsuctive feedback and help
                  reverting my good friend

                  Your friend,
                  2Play!

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                    2Play @Folly
                    last edited by 2Play

                    @folly FANTASTIC!!!
                    Smooth like silk! instant boot as expected.

                    • F11 opens emu menu FYR!
                    • I have used rom files from orig win emu folder, (needs to change from capitals to lower case 3 of them)

                    printscreen06_02_2021--h18-m39-s25.jpg

                    printscreen06_02_2021--h18-m43-s35.jpg

                    Your friend,
                    2Play!

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                      Folly @2Play
                      last edited by Folly

                      @2play

                      I tried electron with lr-mess, but I am missing 1 bios rom (os_basic.ic2), so I have to search for that.
                      What I found was that you talked about -flop1 but electron uses -flop.
                      Try that for a change, I think this is the solution.

                      btw.
                      How are you installing this ?
                      Are you doing this all by hand ?
                      You can use my script you know,

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                        Folly @2Play
                        last edited by Folly

                        @2play

                        (About elkulator)
                        Aha nice!
                        So we should make a module-script of that !

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                          2Play @Folly
                          last edited by 2Play

                          @folly I ll test the flop, you probably right
                          I m having a custom setup so all ok. no worries

                          you might have also to put 1 (enable adfs) in elk.cfg

                          Your friend,
                          2Play!

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                            Folly @2Play
                            last edited by Folly

                            @2play

                            (About lr-mess / mame)
                            With this you will see that only flop exists :

                            /opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -listmedia electron
                            SYSTEM           MEDIA NAME       (brief)    IMAGE FILE EXTENSIONS SUPPORTED
                            ---------------- --------------------------- -------------------------------
                            electron         cassette         (cass)     .wav  .csw  .uef  
                                             floppydisk       (flop)     .ssd  .bbc  .img  .dsd  .adf  .ads  .adm  .adl  .d77  .d88  .1dd  .dfi  .hfe  .imd  .ipf  .mfi  .mfm  .td0  .cqm  .cqi  .dsk  
                                             printout         (prin)     .prn  
                                             cartridge1       (cart1)    .rom  .bin  
                                             cartridge2       (cart2)    .rom  .bin
                            

                            You should read my thread :
                            https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/29682/development-of-module-script-generator-for-lr-mess-and-mame-standalone

                            If you use this line it wil automatically create the electron module-script for you, without any human mistakes :
                            In the ext directory :

                            curl "https://raw.githubusercontent.com/FollyMaddy/RetroPie-Share/main/00-scripts-00/generate-systems-lr-mess_mame-2v1-ext.sh" | bash -s electron
                            

                            Or in the plain directory :

                            curl "https://raw.githubusercontent.com/FollyMaddy/RetroPie-Share/main/00-scripts-00/generate-systems-lr-mess_mame-2v1.sh" | bash -s electron
                            

                            Just install in RetroPie-Setup and you are good to go.
                            Bioses have to go in /home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/mame !

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                              Folly @2Play
                              last edited by Folly

                              @2play

                              (About elkulator)
                              I have cassette files working too and with sound !
                              No luck on floppy's yet

                              Here some tips and tricks I found :
                              https://github.com/damieng/BBCMicroTools/blob/master/tips-and-tricks.md

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                                2Play @Folly
                                last edited by

                                @folly sound on lr-mess or elkulator. elkulator ye si use the sound menu (default is off) on pc is too loud heheh
                                floppy on elkulator i had no luck too. I need to test on lr-mess

                                Your friend,
                                2Play!

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                                  2Play @Folly
                                  last edited by 2Play

                                  @folly I can run from ES but it goes full screen and kb not working unless in windowed mode.
                                  I need to fix this when you start xinit from ES
                                  within X11 of course is ok

                                  UPDATE:
                                  rom files from elkulator run fine.
                                  ssd no luck yet
                                  I have checked the hash mame hash file for electron flop and cant fine any of my tosec files as supported.

                                  Your friend,
                                  2Play!

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                                    2Play @Folly
                                    last edited by 2Play

                                    @folly
                                    OK I have it running from ES with similar setup to B-em

                                    elkulator-tape = "XINIT: /opt/retropie/emulators/elkulator/elkulator.sh %ROM%"

                                    #!/bin/bash
                                    xset -dpms s off s noblank
                                    matchbox-window-manager &
                                    /opt/retropie/emulators/elkulator/elkulator -tape "$1"
                                    

                                    Im testing diff configurations for tape/disc/rom

                                    So far:

                                    • to exit only way os to open elkulator menu with f11 and exit from there
                                    • Auto mount tapes/roms work fine. No luck with discs.
                                      (command line options inlcude -tape, -disc & -disc1, rom1 & rom2)
                                      • Loading tapes needs CHAIN""
                                      • Roms auto load and run!!!
                                        printscreen06_03_2021--h10-m39-s56.jpg
                                    • Resolution needs to be changed within emu settings to fullscreen or at runcommand options (later not the best as its not centered 100%, best tested is 800x600)

                                    At the moment Im happy with elkulator capabilities, auto load, tapes and best with roms
                                    Discs to be seen

                                    Happy to see another system tackled. lr-mess if was faster it will ok but both lr-mess and AdvMESS not close to elkulator

                                    Your friend,
                                    2Play!

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                                      2Play
                                      last edited by 2Play

                                      @Folly

                                      UPDATE:
                                      Im thinking the solution for users not to enter settings to change to FULLSCREEN is to change source code to implement the opposite.
                                      Fullscreen by default and menu to go to window.
                                      Or
                                      add in code the option to be in elk.cfg so user can set at will 0 or 1

                                      Maybe this also wouldnt have the need of the sh file with the win manager etc

                                      650ecf59-0829-4615-b6e8-6b962f60229e-image.png

                                      Also to start tapes we can also press ALT+J to auto type CHAIN then simply add "" (shift+2 on UK KB)

                                      Ι have to step out but ill try later above... Unless you do earlier your side. I made a fork to test

                                      Your friend,
                                      2Play!

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                                        Folly @2Play
                                        last edited by Folly

                                        @2play

                                        You could easily change the .cfg with a sed command building it in the module-script.
                                        Btw. you should read this post :
                                        https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/29402/bbc-micro-acorn-electron-emu/71
                                        Perhaps you don't even need the full-screen option then, removing just the window frame.
                                        This way you can still use it within a desktop environment, because I had a black screen issue in the desktop environment using the full-screen option.
                                        And, you can add an extra possibility to quit along the way.

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                                          Folly @2Play
                                          last edited by Folly

                                          @2play

                                          I have found all the correct bios files.
                                          They are shipped with the windows version 1.0.
                                          I updated my post with the sha1sums :
                                          https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/25576/new-scriptmodules-lr-vice-xvic-gsplus-proper-lr-mess-integration/471

                                          I have the disks working too !
                                          Manually enable plus3 and dfesna.
                                          (enabling adfsena gave some errors with loading sometimes, so turn that off, if not needed)
                                          Or make sure this is in the elk.cfg :

                                          plus3 = 1
                                          dfsena = 1
                                          adfsena = 0
                                          

                                          WOW, works really nice.

                                          I should earn some kudo's now ! 😊

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                                            2Play @Folly
                                            last edited by 2Play

                                            @folly
                                            Yes bios as per my post above I also used from the win install
                                            adfsena i blv is for the adf disc files but for ssd yes best to be off. That works for me also

                                            Yes with elkulator will need the fullscreen as it still use a small resolution without. But
                                            I ve updated and re-compiled b-em as per yours ALL GREAT tx
                                            for BBC i use lr-mess configs i made and only for knighlore i needed to use the b-em. ctrl-c works great
                                            b-em no frame works great as its using by default fullscreen butnot the case on elkulator as dev seems intended use on window enviroment
                                            but running from ES will need it

                                            id say with you latest comments tweaks im at 99% with elkulator. just to add the fullscreen and another great old system is working with best setup rather waiting for real tape loading :D

                                            kudos friend! Im pleased to see another dev like yourself being active helps the scene to be at its best

                                            Your friend,
                                            2Play!

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