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Raspbian VS Retropie?

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    mitu Global Moderator @fretman
    last edited by mitu 9 Jan 2021, 21:21 1 Sept 2021, 20:21

    @fretman If you exit EmulationStation, the welcome message shown on the console will print the total / available memory on your system:

     ...
     Memory.............: 3536MB (Free) / 3787MB (Total)
    ...
    

    Note that RetroPie is based on Raspbian (now named Raspberry Pi OS) so you can install any utilities available in Raspbian.

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      sleve_mcdichael @fretman
      last edited by 1 Sept 2021, 21:34

      @fretman said in Raspbian VS Retropie?:

      I know that with Raspbian I can use menus to check

      The default RetroPie image is built on top of Raspbian Lite, which does not include the PIXEL desktop environment. You can install PIXEL yourself, manually or automatically, with the instructions here.

      Note that you cannot run PIXEL and Retropie at the same time. You will need to log out of PIXEL completely to start EmulationStation

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        fretman @sleve_mcdichael
        last edited by 1 Sept 2021, 21:57

        @sleve_mcdichael , @mitu , thank you both. I'll take a look at both options. I might just decide to install Raspberry Pi OS and play around with it for awhile before re-imaging to RetroPie.

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          4RetroPieTFT @fretman
          last edited by mitu 9 Jun 2021, 12:34 1 Sept 2021, 23:21

          @fretman always you can hace Pi OS with RetroPie like a simple app in the menu(just in pi4, in pi3 you have to exit from desktop with

          ctrl+alt+f2 
          

          And write:

          emulationstation
          

          In pi 4 de desktop entry is:

          geany /usr/share/applications/Retropie.desktop
          Or
          nano /usr/share/applications/Retropie.deskto
          [Desktop Entry]
          Type=Application
          Name=RetroPie
          Icon=rpsetup
          Exec=emulationstation
          Categories=Application;Game;
          Terminal=true
          

          In geany just clic the diskette icon to save.
          In nano :

          Ctrl+o to save (vowel o).
          Enter to confirm the name of file.
          Ctrl+x to exit 
          

          The Icon you can just use the ones in retropiemenu or just create one you or google one.
          Using one of retropiemenu folder:

          sudo cp /home/pi/RetroPie/retropiemenu/icons/rpsetup.png /usr/share/pixmaps/
          

          If you choose another one, make the change in the

          Icon= name_of_you_desire_logo
          

          Then you will have a nice Launcher from:

          Raspberry》Games》RetroPie
          

          Anothe advantage is you can run supermodel3 in fullscreen(see the forum the post of mechafatnick)

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            fretman @4RetroPieTFT
            last edited by 1 Sept 2021, 23:50

            @4retropietft , thank you. I'm going to have to look deeper into that and get familiar with it. My exposure to Raspberry Pi has only been a few weeks. I will experiment with what you gave me. It sounds like I'm able to have a dual OS running?

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              dankcushions Global Moderator @4RetroPieTFT
              last edited by 2 Sept 2021, 10:22

              @4retropietft note that launching via the desktop is not supported: https://retropie.org.uk/docs/FAQ/#where-did-the-desktop-go

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                4RetroPieTFT @fretman
                last edited by mitu 9 Mar 2021, 19:52 2 Sept 2021, 22:42

                @fretman not dual OS, that is another thing that you can make with installers like PINN or berryboot.
                What i told you is that you install raspberry pi os with desktop and then compile retropie in it, but you don't setup to start automatically in retropie.
                The official retropie image is built in on top of raspberry pi os lite(pi os without desktop enviroment) and boot directly to emulationstation at start.
                I hope you can understand what i intend to tell.

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                  4RetroPieTFT @dankcushions
                  last edited by mitu 9 Mar 2021, 19:52 2 Sept 2021, 22:50

                  @dankcushions and what i do it every day in my pi os Sir ? I read a lot of answer saying that!, but i cant understood why answer that! If only have to install pi os compile retropie with the official instructions, and look to not answer that the wrong way! With respect, but from pi 4b, we can compile retropie in pi os and just open it launching emulationstation from the desktop enviroment, that post is very old. For that i clarify that only can do it in a pi 4b, and not in pi 3/2/1/0 where you need to exit from desktop to start emulationstation first. Can i share a youtube video showing it?.
                  Or you can try yourself and see it. I said Raspberry Pi OS and not Raspberry Pi OS Lite (that havent desktop environment).

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                    4RetroPieTFT @dankcushions
                    last edited by mitu 9 Mar 2021, 19:52 2 Sept 2021, 23:05

                    @dankcushions

                    and here the comlete steps only the 3 first videos
                    And im sorry by my english, sorry if was rude.

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                      fretman @4RetroPieTFT
                      last edited by 3 Sept 2021, 02:18

                      @4retropietft , thanks for the explanation and video. I received my parts build today and will look at getting things together this weekend. I'll look into the OS options as well. But for now, I think in the long run, I'm going to keep it simple and eventually just have Retropie running.

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                        dankcushions Global Moderator @4RetroPieTFT
                        last edited by 3 Sept 2021, 09:19

                        @4retropietft said in Raspbian VS Retropie?:

                        @dankcushions and what i do it every day in my pi os Sir ? I read a lot of answer saying that!, but i cant understood why answer that! If only have to install pi os compile retropie with the official instructions, and look to not answer that the wrong way! With respect, but from pi 4b, we can compile retropie in pi os and just open it launching emulationstation from the desktop enviroment, that post is very old. For that i clarify that only can do it in a pi 4b, and not in pi 3/2/1/0 where you need to exit from desktop to start emulationstation first. Can i share a youtube video showing it?.
                        Or you can try yourself and see it. I said Raspberry Pi OS and not Raspberry Pi OS Lite (that havent desktop environment).

                        i mean just what i said - just because something is possible doesn't mean it is supported. there are lots issues caused by launching within the desktop:
                        https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/25197/bluetooth-and-roms-go-to-desktop-then-back-to-retropie
                        https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/28081/none-of-my-games-are-launching-on-a-fresh-updated-install
                        https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/29231/configuration-menus-will-not-load
                        etc...
                        it's not tested so we don't supported it, so if you have issues with such a configuration you will not be able to seek assistance here unless you install in the instructed way.

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                          4RetroPieTFT @dankcushions
                          last edited by mitu 9 Mar 2021, 19:52 3 Sept 2021, 16:06

                          @dankcushions i dont use bluetooth so never have that problem, the other one never happen im affortunate since i have the pi 4 never an issue. I understood the support but the answer need to be you can but is not recommended and only for pi4b model. The instructions i followed are that in docs, but never make the change in the memory, because i use like a pc the pi os. But all the steps are what are in the docs:

                          sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade -y
                          reboot
                          sudo update-locale LANGUAGE="en_GB.UTF-8" LC_ALL="en_GB.UTF-8"
                          reboot
                          sudo apt install git lsb-release -y  -》 This step isnt neccesary in Buster an Pi OS
                          
                          git clone --depth=1 https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup.git
                          
                          cd RetroPie-Setup
                          
                          sudo ./retropie_setup.sh
                          
                          **OK** then choose **Basic Install,** **OK**, Yes
                          

                          And update the retropie script every week.

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