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    Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone

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      isidoro80 @Folly
      last edited by isidoro80

      maybe because I don't write well in English. I believe my problem is consistent with this post. I have installed lr-mame and would like to play the segamodel 1 games emulated by lr-mame. one of these is arabian fight and another is f1 exaust. I read the game log and despite having installed the bios in the correct directories I read as an error: model file not found. essentially the bios are missing. I have installed the bios Model1IO.zip, Model1IO2.zip, M1COMM.zip, HD44780_A00.zip but i can't play games. the question is this. can anyone play arcade model 1 games with le-mame?

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        jamrom2 @isidoro80
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        @isidoro80

        Problem might not be the BIOS files... it might be that the ROMs you are using are not correct to the version of MAME you have loaded.

        What version are the ROMs from? They have to match the version of MAME correctly in order to work. They change/merge ROMs often between version of MAME so everything must match.

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          Folly @isidoro80
          last edited by Folly

          @isidoro80

          I looked in the mame databases for you.
          The games you want to run are "system drivers" and not found in the software databases (softwarelist hash tables).

          mame0236_systems:Driver arabfgt (Arabian Fight (World)):
          mame0236_systems:Driver arabfgtj (Arabian Fight (Japan)):
          mame0236_systems:Driver arabfgtu (Arabian Fight (US)):
          mame0236_systems:Driver f1en (F1 Exhaust Note (World, Rev A)):
          mame0236_systems:Driver f1enj (F1 Exhaust Note (Japan, Rev A)):
          mame0236_systems:Driver f1enu (F1 Exhaust Note (US, Rev A)):
          

          This basically means that the game files are the bios files.
          Confusing perhaps, but we don't put game-bios-files in the BIOS or BIOS/mame directory normally. We put them in the normal roms/*** directory.

          According to this : https://www.progettosnaps.net/renameset/
          Here you have a file category.ini (0.236) (always up to date) .
          Inside, you have a file named arcade.ini and one mess.ini.
          Here we can see that they are arcade ones, so you should be able to run them with lr-mame or mame.
          You have to place the f1en.zip (.7z) and arabfgt.zip (.7z) in the regular rom directory :

          • /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/mame-libretro
            or
          • /home/pi/RetroPie/roms/arcade

          Technically speaking, then you are doing it just the normal/regular way.

          Let me know if this works.

          Here it works :
          2021-10-16-094542_800x600_scrot-resized.png 2021-10-16-094623_800x600_scrot-resized.png

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          • jamrom2J
            jamrom2 @Folly
            last edited by

            Maybe I can help a little with this as well...

            The best way to see what you are missing when it comes to MAME is to run native MAME on a PC.

            Grab the ROMs from the correct MAME version number, run it in MAME and it will tell you what you need. Many of the missing files need to be added to the main MAME ROM folder (as Folly pointed out). They are no longer placed in the BIOS folder.

            Great example is Gorf. It needs very specific VOX files to properly emulate the voice sounds in the game as they don't use "samples" any more. Without those VOX files, Gorf will not work and will flag an error. You then add those files to the MAME roms folder, and all is happy.

            Having said that... Retropie did not run the most modern version of MAME, until this new script was added...so now you have to see what version of MAME this script pulls down and make sure that the games you are trying to run are supported by that version of MAME.

            MAME has never been a quick dump and go emulator. It has always been this way, and requires things to be the correct version, in the correct place...and named correctly.

            So try there before you go any further. You might be chasing this meanwhile, this version of MAME might not even support the game you are trying to run.

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              Folly @jamrom2
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              @jamrom2

              Here you can learn/read everything about mame :
              https://docs.mamedev.org/

              Here you can read almost everything about the commandline options :
              https://docs.mamedev.org/commandline/commandline-all.html

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              • dankcushionsD
                dankcushions Global Moderator
                last edited by dankcushions

                @jamrom2 said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess and mame standalone:

                Retropie did not run the most modern version of MAME, until this new script was added...

                standard retropie has supported current, standalone MAME for over a year now: https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/blob/master/scriptmodules/emulators/mame.sh (experimental packages)

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                  Folly
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                  @DTEAM

                  All changes up until now :


                  (18-10-2021)

                  • all slotdevice parameters converted to "extra options"
                  • added lr-mess overlay config creation for .7z files
                    (because roms are often in .7z format now)
                  • improvements in menu : Download > Download/update

                  (14-10-2021)

                  • fix : first line of the CSV was not displayed in some menus
                  • now the front-end uses the mame0236 database
                  • added the possibility to install the available gamelists and media per system
                    • should be future proof when adding new system on the google-drive
                  • added the older and newer missing mame databases (now we have 0228 - 0236 )
                  • add systems in the generator part script for : classich and gameandwatch
                  • updated the handheld databases

                  https://github.com/FollyMaddy/RetroPie-Share/blob/0b3a8f2fa4588098411eda5b860cde8a9f00ac6c/00-workdir-00/add-mamedev-systems-2v4.sh
                  (right-click on raw to download)

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                    Folly @DTEAM
                    last edited by Folly

                    @dteam said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess and mame standalone:

                    NEW EDIT: here: https://www.progettosnaps.net/renameset/

                    you have a file category.ini (0.236) (always up to date) . Inside, you have a file named arcade.ini and one mess.ini. Everything is there to do the split.

                    I have found a way to match these files with our data.
                    And I think I can also match the files from http://adb.arcadeitalia.net/lista_mame.php .
                    We could even add our handhelds/plug&play to it this way.
                    After that I hope that I can implement it in the scripts so we can sort upon the "catagories".
                    The file will look something like this :

                    Driver 1292apvs (1292 Advanced Programmable Video System): *non-arcade
                    Driver 1392apvs (1392 Advanced Programmable Video System): *non-arcade
                    Driver 15lions (15 Lions (10166211, Queensland)): *arcade
                    Driver 18w (18 Wheeler (set 1)): *arcade
                    Driver 18w2 (18 Wheeler (set 2)): *arcade
                    Driver 18wheelr (18 Wheeler (deluxe, Rev A)): *arcade
                    Driver 18wheelro (18 Wheeler (deluxe)): *arcade
                    Driver 18wheelrt (18 Wheeler (deluxe, Rev T)): *arcade
                    Driver 18wheels (18 Wheeler (standard)): *arcade
                    Driver 18wheelu (18 Wheeler (upright)): *arcade
                    Driver 1942abl (1942 (Revision A, bootleg)): *arcade*bootlegs*cabinets
                    

                    The disadvantage is that "matching" takes some time to do.
                    And I have to improve the category names.
                    For instance, I want to convert "mess" into "non-arcade".
                    So, for now, it's a slow development.

                    Using grep we can sort on arcade , for example :
                    grep_arcade.png

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                    • DTEAMD
                      DTEAM @Folly
                      last edited by

                      @folly said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess and mame standalone:

                      I have found a way to match these files with our data.

                      This is really cool!!

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                        Folly @DTEAM
                        last edited by Folly

                        @dteam

                        I am finished with the matching.
                        After converting the files, so it would contain only the systems, I matched the files against our database.
                        It takes about 3 hours to build.

                        I uploaded the file to github :
                        https://github.com/FollyMaddy/RetroPie-Share/blob/main/00-databases-00/mame/mame0236_systems_sorted_info

                        For now something to check and experiment with.

                        The categories that I added are :
                        all_in1
                        arcade
                        ball-and-paddle
                        board-game
                        bootlegs
                        cabinets
                        calculator
                        casino
                        classich
                        climbing
                        clones-arcade
                        computer-graphic-workstation
                        computer
                        digital-simulator
                        driving
                        fighter
                        freeplay
                        game-console
                        gameandwatch
                        handheld
                        jakks
                        konamih
                        maze
                        mechanical-arcade
                        medal-game
                        medical-equipment
                        misc
                        monochrome
                        multi-game
                        non-arcade
                        screenless
                        tigerh
                        tigerrz

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                          DTEAM @Folly
                          last edited by DTEAM

                          @folly

                          WOW !!! A lot of work ! Some of those are not playable. Will you keep them (like mechanical-arcade, medical-equipment, ball-and-paddle, board-game, etc.) ?

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                            Folly @DTEAM
                            last edited by Folly

                            @dteam

                            I like the idea that we now can see what which system is and that the most data is included.

                            I think it's not a problem that non-working systems are in there because we should be able to sort on it, if I add it from the ini files.
                            If I am wrong, I can always remove some entry's.

                            I did not yet add the info of these ini files :
                            arcade_BIOS
                            arcade_NOBIOS
                            CHD (no BIOS)
                            CHD Working
                            Non Bootlegs
                            Non Mechanical Arcade
                            Not Working Arcade
                            Originals Arcade
                            Players
                            resolution
                            Working Arcade Clean
                            Working Arcade

                            This is the only bash code I used to add the information to the existing data file,
                            using the simple .ini txt files containing the systems per category that are with or without windows line-endings :

                            for file in $(ls -r *.ini);do echo busy with $file;cat $file |sed 's/\r//g'|while read line;do grep -i "Driver $line " mame0236_systems_sorted_info|sed -i "s/Driver $line .*\:/&*$(basename $file .ini)/" mame0236_systems_sorted_info ;done;done
                            sed -i 's/)\:/)\: /g' mame0236_systems_sorted_info
                            
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                              Folly @DTEAM
                              last edited by Folly

                              @dteam

                              I have made the first working code to generate the sorted lists.
                              Perhaps a bit premature as is not yet how I want it to be.

                              It's just a peek in the future on how it will work.
                              I must say I am very satisfied with the first tests ;-)

                              (edit : third update)
                              https://github.com/FollyMaddy/RetroPie-Share/blob/94f47159441265d13869eeb72fb8640b6aadb9ee/00-workdir-00/add-mamedev-systems-2v4.sh

                              • menu improved
                              • overall improved sorting on --dictionary-order
                              • (fast)create sorted lists (and equal to) on patterns up to 5 options ($2 -$6)
                              • (slower)create sorting (not equal to) on patterns for one option ($2) adding an ! after the pattern
                                (in combination with 4 (and equal to) patterns up to 4 options ($3 -$6) is possible)
                              • possible to make sorted lists with "system" names
                                ( with "system description" names it was already possible )
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                              • DTEAMD
                                DTEAM @Folly
                                last edited by DTEAM

                                @folly
                                l’ll try it monday👍🏻

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                                  DTEAM @DTEAM
                                  last edited by DTEAM

                                  @Folly

                                  Your last add-mamedev-systems-2v4.sh works very well. Great job! I like your subfolders for gamelist.xml. Some options can be confusing for newbies. Maybe you could add a logigram or a tree diagram in your first post.

                                  I like this version, it's easy and full access to MESS and MAME with Artworks, cheat codes and "games scraping" for unusual systems... it's huge.

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                                    Folly @DTEAM
                                    last edited by Folly

                                    @dteam

                                    Thanks for the feedback.

                                    Indeed I have to work on it, structuring it better.
                                    This is basically caused by the fact that I am working on it.
                                    First I want to make sure things are working correctly.
                                    When I am done adding/testing stuff I will try to reorganize.
                                    Perhaps we can discuss this later on, to make it simpler.
                                    Or indeed add a diagram in the first post.

                                    Perhaps you have noticed, the forum lists are now in two sections. (old and new)
                                    The list can now be build up from the new database we created.
                                    Basically this means I can remove it from the old section, where it used it's own data.

                                    Well, I have noticed now, working on it, that there is still much to be added and things that have to be changed.

                                    Btw.
                                    You can experiment with making some sorting lines, if you want.
                                    That way we can build the new lists that are important to be in there.
                                    You can add it between lines 86 and 107, and share them if you like.

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                                      Folly @DTEAM
                                      last edited by Folly

                                      @dteam

                                      I did a huge update.
                                      You can test some new stuff ;-)

                                      https://github.com/FollyMaddy/RetroPie-Share/blob/432d2c9db4b1497ba2da938cef1968621c5c2570/00-workdir-00/add-mamedev-systems-2v4.sh

                                      Front-end 2v4 improved

                                      • cleaned up a bit
                                        (removed tho old forum selection list, now there is a new one)
                                        (removed some functions and added some functions)
                                      • re-ordered the menu
                                        (hopefully, in time, it will evolve into a better and simpler structure)
                                      • add experimental help lines
                                        (perhaps not a definitive solution !)
                                      • add saving and removing database file locally (for offline usage)
                                        (file is save in or deleted from : /opt/retropie/emulators/mame)
                                      • add more sorted lists (remove test lines)
                                      • add SEARCH form, to create a sorted list on the fly
                                        (still an issue in the dialog form : "cancel" button doesn't work)
                                      • add download option with form
                                        (only available with the correct input !)
                                        (still an issue in the dialog form : "cancel" button doen't work)
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                                      • DTEAMD
                                        DTEAM @Folly
                                        last edited by

                                        @folly
                                        When I updated Retropie, something happened with my Retropie Setup. I can't run Retropie Setup anymore. I suspect the Valerino script. Any idea. Maybe it's helpers.sh.

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                                          Folly @DTEAM
                                          last edited by Folly

                                          @dteam

                                          Don't know.

                                          You can try and rename the directory and git clone the repository again.
                                          That way you have the whole directory fresh and a backup of the old directory.

                                          Then try if it works ! (edit)

                                          Later you can copy the module-scripts, you had, back in.

                                          Is it a solution ?

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                                          • DTEAMD
                                            DTEAM @Folly
                                            last edited by

                                            @folly
                                            I already copy fresh files from here

                                            I'll try to do some cherry picking from here

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