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      rickd5674
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      anyone managed to install yabasanshiro?

      the extra scripts libretro version is only installing for pi4 and the standalone fails to install.

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        rickd5674 @Darksavior
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        @Darksavior Thanks, hopefully we will get some ps2 emulator in the future.

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          windg @rickd5674
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          @rickd5674 It's failing yes but you can try lr-beetle-saturn , if i am not wrong, is better emulator. Yabasanshiro it's failing and with 64 bit Bullseye and Bookworm for RPi4.

          My English isn't at a good level.

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            rickd5674
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            I know retropie is only in testing phase for pi5 but wanted to share my results so far.

            This is with a Pi5 4gb model
            Installed ontop of OS 64bit lite today using Pi Imager to write the image.
            Using official 27w PSU
            all packages updated as of today.
            updated OS packages

            game simpsons hit & run (europe) - loads to menu then crashes
            game starwars squadron leader II (europe) to low framerate
            system gamecube
            gamecube dolphin - fails to open
            gamecube lr-dolphin - fails to load games ive tested or just crashes on menus

            volume control errors

            restarting emulationstation errors
            warning v3d support for hw version 71 is neither a complete nor a conformant opengl implemention. testing use only

            3do
            fifa - played but felt more sluggish even though audio seemed improved.

            virtual jaguar
            avp - same as on pi4

            dreamcast
            flycast not loading
            redream 4x4 evo - crashed after loading game

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              windg @rickd5674
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              @rickd5674 Ignore volume control error and ES warning message they are harmless. I am not familiar with 3do and jaguar, do you have the bios files? Also try lr-flycast-dev it's working fine so far., check in the experimental packages.

              My English isn't at a good level.

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                skankieflank @windg
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                @windg

                Yes have bios and working well on pi4 for an experimental emulator.

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                  retropieuser555 @skankieflank
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                  @skankieflank tested need for speed and Megarace just now on lr-opera, seems fine to me? Haven't got FIFA but I'll give a try later

                  Pi 5 4GB

                  Retroflag GPI with raspberry pi zero 2 w/ wifi

                  Retroachievements:- lovelessrapture

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                    skankieflank @retropieuser555
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                    @retropieuser555
                    FIFA never run great on pi4 always had some sound issue but gameplay was fine.

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                      Brunnis
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                      Been playing around a bit with my Pi 5 and RetroPie manually installed on Pi OS Lite 64-bit. Set kernel=kernel8.img in config.txt, as well as force_turbo=1. RetroPie seems to work fine and HDMI audio works from the get-go. I've tested some SNES and N64:

                      Note: I used 1920x1080 as output resolution for all tests so far.

                      • The default emulator for SNES is lr-snes9x. Tested Yoshi's Island and played around with video_threaded, max_swapchain_images and frame_delay to see what the additional performance of the Pi 5 affords us in terms of latency reduction. With video_threaded=0 and max_swapchain_images=2, frame_delay could be set all the way up to 12 ms. If I set 13 ms, the title screen of Yoshi's Island would start to stutter. This is a great result. I also tried setting max_swapchain_images to 3 again and then tested how high I could set frame-delay, just to get an idea of how much time the Pi 5 needs to render a frame. Turns out 15 ms was the max while still running at full speed. That means the Pi 5 needed at most 1.67 ms to render each frame. Pretty impressive.
                      • I also enabled the zfast_crt_standard shader. This appeared to need an additional ~1 ms to render, i.e. I had to reduce the frame delay by 1 ms to maintain full speed.

                      Tried a few N64 games as well. The default emulator is lr-mupen64plus-next. I left everything at default (including any latency-reducing RetroArch settings).

                      • Mario 64 ran without issues in the first level.
                      • Shadows of the Empire runs much better than it ever did on the Pi 4. A few stutters in the intro. Just a couple of stutters during the snowspeeder levels. Played the snowspeeder levels and a couple of minutes of the second level and it worked great. Can't vouch for the rest of the game though, of course.
                      • Ocarina of Time has a bit of stuttering in the intro (I didn't try playing yet). It's greatly improved over the Pi 4, though.
                      • Mario Tennis has severe stuttering when the "glowing ball" effect is applied as you hit it over to the other side. When those effects are not showing it seems to run fine. Obviously not playable due to this issue, though.

                      It's possible slightly better N64 performance could be had by reducing output resolution to 640x480, but I wouldn't expect any miracles. So, while the Pi 5 handles N64 much better than the Pi 4, it seems it's still not enough. We need even faster hardware or an improvement in how we emulate this console. Maybe other N64 emulators will fare slightly better for some games.

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                        windg
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                        It looks that the system can handle some Wii games. I try Xenoblade Chronicles and it's running very well.

                        My English isn't at a good level.

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                          retropieuser555 @windg
                          last edited by retropieuser555

                          If anyone wants to try out lr-parallel-n64, add this line into /opt/retropie/configs/all/retroarch-core-options.cfg

                          parallel-n64-cpucore = "cached_interpreter"
                          

                          The default dynamic_recompiler will right now cause a segment fault due to the 4kb vs 16kb virtual memory pages issue. So as far as I can tell we don't need the temporary kernel solution, as flycast has been corrected on GitHub and if you make the interpreter changes to the various mupen64plus & lr-parallel-64 options it all runs happily.

                          Also strangely compared to the pi 4, lr-parallel-64 using goldeneye the snow texture glitch has now gone. So that's nice.

                          Pi 5 4GB

                          Retroflag GPI with raspberry pi zero 2 w/ wifi

                          Retroachievements:- lovelessrapture

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                            mitu Global Moderator @retropieuser555
                            last edited by mitu

                            @retropieuser555 said in Raspberry Pi 5 - official announcement:

                            So as far as I can tell we don't need the temporary kernel issue, as flycast has been corrected on GitHub and if you make the interpreter changes to the various mupen64plus & lr-parallel-64 options it all runs happily.

                            Yeah, I doubt this is the end of it. dosbox-staging also doesn't run with the default RPI kernel config, so the issue is probably affecting anything with a JIT. Note that detecting at runtime compile time the kernel memory paging configuration is not a solution when cross-compiling or if the user changes the kernel in config.txt.

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                              windg
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                              And lr-pcsx-rearmed is affected from the memory page issue.

                              My English isn't at a good level.

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                                retropieuser555 @windg
                                last edited by retropieuser555

                                @mitu you're probably right, in my mind I was looking at 3D based consoles so having a quick run around the cores and emulators those seemed to be the ones that didn't like the kernel issue. But you're right, given there's dozens of cores and emulators it could affect any of them.

                                @windg did you try lr-beetle-psx? I've had a lot of success with that emulator, I always figured lr-pcsx-rearmed so a hacky solution for slow Arm based machines? Whereas with the pi 5 it's probably fair to say we're beyond the slow aspect.

                                Oh btw, Mario Golf, Mario Tennis, Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon (edit NBA Hangtime & Donald Duck Goin' Quackers). Off hand I know these are all games that have glitches or don't play well on lr-mupen64plus-nx or the standalone. I tried them in lr-parallel-n64 at first they weren't great. Then I switched the GFX Plugin to angrylion and they play very well.

                                Pi 5 4GB

                                Retroflag GPI with raspberry pi zero 2 w/ wifi

                                Retroachievements:- lovelessrapture

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                                  windg @retropieuser555
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                                  @retropieuser555 Yes i have try it and it's working very well!

                                  My English isn't at a good level.

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                                    hawkes_84 @retropieuser555
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                                    @retropieuser555 yeah that snow thing always annoyed me. Good to know

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                                      windg
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                                      Does someone has test the standalone Dolphin ?

                                      My English isn't at a good level.

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                                        retropieuser555 @windg
                                        last edited by retropieuser555

                                        @windg I did try it, but could only get it working on the desktop environment for now. I wondered about some roundabout solution using wayfire configs to load dolphin then close it when it's done, but that seems silly to do when ultimately someone will fix the underlaying video output problem?

                                        @mitu I got dosbox-staging working btw, it needs the core option set to auto from dynamic here inside /home/pi/.dosbox/dosbox-staging.conf

                                        [cpu]
                                        #      core: CPU Core used in emulation. auto will switch to dynamic if available and
                                        #            appropriate.
                                        #            Possible values: auto, dynamic, normal, simple.
                                        
                                        core = auto
                                        cputype   = auto
                                        cycles    = auto
                                        cycleup   = 10
                                        cycledown = 20
                                        

                                        I did only test Championship Manager 93 though, so I can't vouch for what games will and won't work

                                        Pi 5 4GB

                                        Retroflag GPI with raspberry pi zero 2 w/ wifi

                                        Retroachievements:- lovelessrapture

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                                          mbrennock @windg
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                                          @windg I was wondering if there was a way I could help test Retropie on the Raspberry Pi 5? I don't have a lot of Retropie programming experience, but I am a programmer. I can work my way through problems if I have enough information to get a handle on things. I should also receive my Raspberry pi 5 in the mail soon.

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                                            windg @mbrennock
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                                            @mbrennock If you like to test RetroPie with Pi5 you have to do a a manual install on top of Bookworm Lite : https://retropie.org.uk/docs/Manual-Installation/ . Then you can report here the issues or in the github page, and if you have the knowledge to help developers to fix them.

                                            My English isn't at a good level.

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