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      Folly @TPR
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      @TPR said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

      I can understand it and I can tinker with it, but I'm not a "programmer" however I still try to contribute what I can! :D

      That's fine too, thanks !

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        Folly
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        @TPR said in How to emulate Bally Astrocade, VTech Creativision, and Emerson Arcadia-2001 in lr-mess:

        I finally figured it out, and in case anyone needs to know for future reference:

        Option 1: Go into "Slot Devices" by pressing TAB to get into the MAME config menu and choose "Joy" under "ctrl2" - This is not set by default.

        Option 2: Add -ctrl2 joy to your command line in emulators.cfg - This will force a controller to put put into controller port 2. So for example, my command line for Astrocade looks like this:

        @TPR @LilaQ
        I read both your posts and added this in my script for :
        -astrocde
        -astrocdl
        -astrocdw
        With a default install for these drivers "-ctrl2 joy" will be added automatically.
        https://github.com/FollyMaddy/RetroPie-Share/commit/28939863494d9a124d02cf16fddb4b49cf5f1e32

        Remember my script doesn't use "astrocade" (with an A) just :
        -astrocde
        -astrocdl
        -astrocdw

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          DTEAM @Folly
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          @Folly

          MAME 0.272 is release

          For All in one:

          Jungle Soft Classic Max Pocket Mx-10 - 12 in 1 (vertical) [TeamEurope, David Haywood, AJR] --> cmpmx10
          YSN GameU Joint TV Bank 108-in-1 (model AH9069) [TeamEurope, David Haywood] --> gujtv108
          Classic Max Pocket PCMX11 - 12 in 1 Colour Games Console (horizontal, France) -->cmpmx11
          NJ Pocket 60-in-1 handheld 'X zero' (NTSC) [David Haywood, AJR] --> njp60in1 (already in the list , but now promoted as a working system)
          Portable Game Station 268-in-1 [David Haywood, AJR] --> pgs268
          unknown VT1682-based 101-in-1 handheld (PAL) [David Haywood, AJR] --> unk1682 (already in the list , but now promoted as a working system)

          for MAME 0.271
          265-in-1 Handheld Game (SPG2xx based) [David Haywood, TeamEurope] --> 265games
          Digital Pocket Hand Held System 230-in-1 - Model 8630 / Model 8633 [David Haywood] --> dphh8630
          dreamGEAR My Arcade Gamer Mini 160-in-1 (DGUN-2953) [David Haywood]
          --> dgun2953
          Fizz Creations Arcade Classics Mini Handheld Arcade --> supreme
          Fizz Creations Mini Arcade Console (Arcade 10-in-1) [David Haywood] --> arcade10
          Millennium 2000 GmbH Millennium Arcade 250 --> marc250
          Orb Retro Arcade Game Controller 153-in-1 [David Haywood] --> ragc153
          Orb Retro Handheld Console 152-in-1 [David Haywood] --> rhhc152

          Recently, many "all in one" systems have been promoted as "working systems". I didn't saw that. I'll do a quick search in the previous MAME releases. A lot of work to update the gamelist.xml.

          New edit: That list above is ok. I revisited the old MAME journals.

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            DTEAM @DTEAM
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            @DTEAM said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

            MAME 0.265 is released, see here

            Coleco_homebrew now supported by MAME
            New games for:
            gameking3:
            Diamond, Hemic Battle [sCZther, SSJ, Gaming Alexandria, TeamEurope]

            After 7 months , my gamelist.xml is now updated for Gameking3

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              Folly @DTEAM
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              @DTEAM

              Nice to hear that you did some updates.

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                Folly @DTEAM
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                @DTEAM said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                @Folly

                MAME 0.272 is release

                For All in one:

                Jungle Soft Classic Max Pocket Mx-10 - 12 in 1 (vertical) [TeamEurope, David Haywood, AJR] --> cmpmx10
                YSN GameU Joint TV Bank 108-in-1 (model AH9069) [TeamEurope, David Haywood] --> gujtv108
                Classic Max Pocket PCMX11 - 12 in 1 Colour Games Console (horizontal, France) -->cmpmx11
                NJ Pocket 60-in-1 handheld 'X zero' (NTSC) [David Haywood, AJR] --> njp60in1 (already in the list , but now promoted as a working system)
                Portable Game Station 268-in-1 [David Haywood, AJR] --> pgs268
                unknown VT1682-based 101-in-1 handheld (PAL) [David Haywood, AJR] --> unk1682 (already in the list , but now promoted as a working system)

                for MAME 0.271
                265-in-1 Handheld Game (SPG2xx based) [David Haywood, TeamEurope] --> 265games
                Digital Pocket Hand Held System 230-in-1 - Model 8630 / Model 8633 [David Haywood] --> dphh8630
                dreamGEAR My Arcade Gamer Mini 160-in-1 (DGUN-2953) [David Haywood]
                --> dgun2953
                Fizz Creations Arcade Classics Mini Handheld Arcade --> supreme
                Fizz Creations Mini Arcade Console (Arcade 10-in-1) [David Haywood] --> arcade10
                Millennium 2000 GmbH Millennium Arcade 250 --> marc250
                Orb Retro Arcade Game Controller 153-in-1 [David Haywood] --> ragc153
                Orb Retro Handheld Console 152-in-1 [David Haywood] --> rhhc152

                Recently, many "all in one" systems have been promoted as "working systems". I didn't saw that. I'll do a quick search in the previous MAME releases. A lot of work to update the gamelist.xml.

                New edit: That list above is ok. I revisited the old MAME journals.

                I have manually added the all_in1 drivers in the 271 database.
                To get it just update the script and the database will be overwritten with a new one.
                https://github.com/FollyMaddy/RetroPie-Share/commit/5f45c53d414154087f56cfb3cb6a408824b249f0
                https://github.com/FollyMaddy/RetroPie-Share/commit/568454915cc701f0ac2ca66ea7bcaca1d84acd06

                Also updated for next update:
                https://github.com/FollyMaddy/RetroPie-Share/commit/0edbb4b9e81dd8464ba3f8dc5c3413f9c6aa2417

                P.s.
                Did you leave out marc101 because booting is a bit slow in the beginning ?

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                  Folly
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                  @DTEAM
                  Found something that is interesting.
                  Viewing on the progettosnaps website I found that he has a github page with the ini files over here :
                  https://github.com/AntoPISA/MAME_SupportFiles/tree/main

                  If needed we can still find the old ini files over there..

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                    Folly
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                    The script and database have been updated to 272.

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                      DTEAM @Folly
                      last edited by DTEAM

                      @Folly said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                      P.s.
                      Did you leave out marc101 because booting is a bit slow in the beginning ?

                      This is a mistake. I'll add it. It works fine. No reason why it shouldn't be in the list. I'll add it to my gamelists.xml file.

                      Thanks for the 0.272 update, I'll finish the gamelist update today

                      New edit: All_in_1 gamelist.xml is now updated for MAME 0.271 and 0.272.

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                        Folly @DTEAM
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                        @DTEAM

                        Super, thanks for the reply.
                        I will add that driver manually later.

                        Might be intersting for you.
                        There is also a tag multi-game in the database.
                        Might be that you can find more for all_in1 when looking at these drivers with the multi-game tag.

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                          DTEAM @Folly
                          last edited by DTEAM

                          @Folly said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                          @DTEAM

                          Super, thanks for the reply.
                          I will add that driver manually later.

                          Might be intersting for you.
                          There is also a tag multi-game in the database.
                          Might be that you can find more for all_in1 when looking at these drivers with the multi-game tag.

                          It's a mix of Casino machines, arcade machines and cartridges with many games. If we exclude Arcade and Casino Machine, only those games seems to be (maybe) ok for "All in one" as cartridges :

                          multi96
                          multigam
                          multigm2
                          multigm3
                          multigmb
                          multigmt
                          sgmt1
                          supergm3 1992 pirated arcade machine don't fit in "all in 1"

                          All am_mg, geimulti, games seems to be Casino Slot Machine games. geimulti and twinadvk seems to be arcade boards.

                          I'll do a double check later.strikethrough text

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                            Folly @DTEAM
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                            @DTEAM

                            I came up with a few drivers,
                            I filtered the database on :

                            • non-arcade (grep non-)
                            • multigame (grep multigame)
                            • not all_in1 (grep -v all_in1)

                            Full command to test the drivers one by one :
                            cat /opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame0271_systems_sorted_info |grep non-|grep multigame|grep -v all_in1|cut -d " " -f2|while read driver;do /opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -ui_active $driver;done

                            Found that next drivers seem to work ok and could potentially be added to the list all_in1 :
                            cham24
                            smssgame
                            smssgamea
                            vgtablet

                            What do you think ?

                            P.s.
                            Added marc101 to all_in1.ini and 271/272 database.

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                              TPR
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                              @Folly @DTEAM Working on getting BBC Micro Installed and so far a lot of games work perfectly fine, for example:
                              Screenshot 2024-12-17 13-21-10.png
                              Screenshot 2024-12-17 13-21-28.png

                              But trying some more graphics intensive games the screen gets scrambled and starts to flicker:
                              Screenshot 2024-12-17 13-18-51.png
                              Screenshot 2024-12-17 13-17-13.png
                              (Top game is Ransom or King's Ransom, bottom game is Elite)

                              I've installed both the BBC Micro B and BBC Micro B +128 and get the same results for both.

                              Any idea what graphics card or expansion I might need to put into one of the internal slots in MAME or if there is another settings I should be using?

                              Note that I've tried just about every dip switch combo I could try.

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                                Folly @TPR
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                                @TPR

                                Not sure either what should be done to get it working.
                                I will have a look at "elite" when I can.

                                Although I must say this discussion has been on the forum before.
                                As far as I know mame isn't the best bbc micro emulator but for RetroPie it's the best available.

                                I have made some module-scripts with alternative emulators but sadly newer gcc will not compile these older packages anymore, if you run a newer OS.

                                Alternative forums, to find answers, are :
                                https://stardot.org.uk/
                                or
                                https://forums.bannister.org/ubbthreads.php?ubb=postlist&Board=1

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                                  Folly @TPR
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                                  @TPR

                                  Tried elite and elitea from bbcb_flop.
                                  Saw these graphic glitches also.
                                  Mame warns for "graphic issues".
                                  I think there is noting you can do about it.

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                                    DTEAM @Folly
                                    last edited by DTEAM

                                    @Folly said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                                    @DTEAM

                                    I came up with a few drivers,
                                    I filtered the database on :

                                    • non-arcade (grep non-)
                                    • multigame (grep multigame)
                                    • not all_in1 (grep -v all_in1)

                                    Full command to test the drivers one by one :
                                    cat /opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame0271_systems_sorted_info |grep non-|grep multigame|grep -v all_in1|cut -d " " -f2|while read driver;do /opt/retropie/emulators/mame/mame -ui_active $driver;done

                                    Found that next drivers seem to work ok and could potentially be added to the list all_in1 :
                                    cham24
                                    smssgame
                                    smssgamea
                                    vgtablet

                                    What do you think ?

                                    P.s.
                                    Added marc101 to all_in1.ini and 271/272 database.

                                    All systems are for arcade games excepted vgtablet

                                    New edit: vgtablet has been added to "All in one" gamelist.xml

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                                      Folly @DTEAM
                                      last edited by Folly

                                      @DTEAM said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                                      cham24
                                      smssgame
                                      smssgamea

                                      My database states that these system drivers are non-arcade and the don't use a coin to play.
                                      Besides "Sega Master Systems" on itself, isn't arcade either.

                                      If these are really arcade, as you stated, then my database isn't correct and has to be improved somehow.

                                      Where did you find the info of these being arcade ?
                                      Can you share your source ?


                                      I have added vgtablet to the database 271/272 and ini file.

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                                        DTEAM @Folly
                                        last edited by DTEAM

                                        @Folly said in Development of module-script generator for lr-mess, lr-mame and mame standalone:

                                        cham24
                                        smssgame
                                        smssgamea

                                        For cham24, here's where I got my info. [site 1] (https://bootleggames.fandom.com/wiki/Chameleon_24) , site 2 (at the bottom in the history section) .
                                        Maybe it's a token-free home arcade. If yes, it could be in the list, but it's not easy to know.
                                        It's a "pay for time" arcade like PlayChoice10. See here

                                        For smssgame and smssgamea, see site 1 (at the bottom in the history section and also the picture where we can see the game time credits)
                                        They put those games in "bootleg" but they are Arcade "multi games" bootlegs. Maybe they put those games in the wrong category. I don't think they are token-free home arcades.

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                                          Folly @DTEAM
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                                          @DTEAM

                                          Thanks for the info.
                                          Indeed if they are arcade then we should not add them.

                                          Will have a second look at these drivers if I can find the proper info about coin/pay usage in the driver xml info.
                                          Then I can, possibly, split arcade and non-arcade better in the future.

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                                            Folly @DTEAM
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                                            @DTEAM

                                            For cham24 and smssgame I tried to find coin/pay/time info but there is nothing to be found inside the xml driver info.
                                            There is also no coin input key inside the input settings.

                                            If these drivers are really arcade then the mame drivers and driver infos are incomplete for these drivers.

                                            Seems they just work without "paying" but that could mean that this is the incompleteness which is also a reason not to add them to all_in1.

                                            For now I will keep them in the non-arcade section as I can't properly detect whether they are arcade or not.

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