3DO, MAME and FB NEO Question

barbudreadmon

MAME2010 is trash.
MAME (current), MAME2003+ and FBNeo are the only arcade emulators you should ever consider using on a pi5.
Out of those 3, only MAME (current) is gonna emulate 3D'ish games like carnevil properly.
More details about the different arcade emulators here.

sirhenrythe5th

3DO -> runs great (on a Pi5, which you have)

seperate Systems in ES -> your arcade-roms are in the directory /home/pi/retropie/roms/arcade/"
Move the roms to ".../roms/fbneo/" and ".../roms/mame/" to make these systems(names) show up in ES.

sleve_mcdichael

@sirhenrythe5th said in 3DO, MAME and FB NEO Question:

".../roms/fbneo/" and ".../roms/mame/"

...don't exist in default RetroPie. Try fba and mame-libretro folders if you want that separation.

Jiryn

@barbudreadmon said in 3DO, MAME and FB NEO Question:

MAME2010 is trash.
MAME (current), MAME2003+ and FBNeo are the only arcade emulators you should ever consider using on a pi5.
Out of those 3, only MAME (current) is gonna emulate 3D'ish games like carnevil properly.
More details about the different arcade emulators here.

What library is MAME CURRENT?
Is it an optional package?

sleve_mcdichael

@Jiryn said in 3DO, MAME and FB NEO Question:

What library is MAME CURRENT?
Is it an optional package?

Experimental, I think.

Jiryn

@sirhenrythe5th said in 3DO, MAME and FB NEO Question:

3DO -> runs great (on a Pi5, which you have)

seperate Systems in ES -> your arcade-roms are in the directory /home/pi/retropie/roms/arcade/"
Move the roms to ".../roms/fbneo/" and ".../roms/mame/" to make these systems(names) show up in ES.

@sleve_mcdichael said in 3DO, MAME and FB NEO Question:

...don't exist in default RetroPie. Try fba and mame-libretro folders if you want that separation.

I am going to explain this better, and hopefully easier to understand.
I don't remember what folder I had them in, but the libraries WERE Separated

However, when in the UI selecting the system it had two libraries, both named ARCADE so I was never sure if I was in FBNEO or MAME2010's library.

Jiryn

@sleve_mcdichael
I mean what's the name and what's the rom type?
0.276?
How well does it run?

barbudreadmon

@Jiryn said in 3DO, MAME and FB NEO Question:

0.276?

According to https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/29682/development-of-module-script-generator-for-lr-mess-lr-mame-and-mame-standalone/2221, yes.

@Jiryn said in 3DO, MAME and FB NEO Question:

How well does it run?

Undoubtedly faster than mame2010 for carnevil, MAME introduced multiple arm64 dynarecs in 0.274, making it ~4 times faster than it used to be for the games using those dynarecs, which includes carnevil and most of the demanding games.
I might recommend the standalone version though, i've seen mixed reviews about those dynarecs in the libretro port.

mitu

@Jiryn said in 3DO, MAME and FB NEO Question:

I mean what's the name and what's the rom type?

As explained in the docs, it installs the latest monthly release for MAME - at this time it's indeed 0.276.

However, when in the UI selecting the system it had two libraries, both named ARCADE so I was never sure if I was in FBNEO or MAME2010's library.

FBA has it's own icon, different than arcade, so you probably didn't use it before. You can start using it now, if you wish to have fbneo as a separate system, though most of the ROMs are identical with MAMEs.

Jiryn

@mitu probably used the arcade folder before..
It's been a few years, but I remember being confused AF.

Thank you!

@barbudreadmon said in 3DO, MAME and FB NEO Question:

Undoubtedly faster than mame2010 for carnevil, MAME introduced multiple arm64 dynarecs in 0.274, making it ~4 times faster than it used to be for the games using those dynarecs, which includes carnevil and most of the demanding games.
I might recommend the standalone version though, i've seen mixed reviews about those dynarecs in the libretro port.

Thank you!

Jiryn

@barbudreadmon
Now I just need to find the romset.
It should be the same # right?

Sorry, this part always bugged me, that there are so many sets.

Wait, am I over thinking ROMSETS?
I always thought ROMS in newer sets were newer ROMS, made to take advantage of the advancements and updates in MAME code.
or are they the same ROM?

(Aka like can I use the 2003 or 2010 romset with current MAME?)

mitu

@Jiryn said in 3DO, MAME and FB NEO Question:

Wait, am I over thinking ROMSETS?
I always thought ROMS in newer sets were newer ROMS, made to take advantage of the advancements and updates in MAME code.
or are they the same ROM?

No, new ROMs are not 'created' to take advantage of new MAME code.

(Aka like can I use the 2003 or 2010 romset with current MAME?)

No.

This question has been answered countless times and and it's pretty well documented. Get the ROMSET for the emulator version you have and - optionally - validate it against the .dat file(s) produced by the emulator with a ROM validation tool like ClrMamePro/ROMluator/Romcenter/etc.

See

Jiryn

@barbudreadmon
WELP that famously didn't work.
Spent the last couple days downloading a terabyte of data, all the roms, chds and BIOS to run MAME .276 on the PI..

I could hear sounds, but graphically it was a gabled mess that looked like colored static with nothing distinct.
Tried older games like Sunset Riders, Golden Axe, and some System 32 games.. had sound but no the image was the same static mess. (Literally looked like a static screen but in various colors)

FBNeo seems to run System 32 amazingly now..
Anything I need the MAMES for now? Beyond 3D games which you're right, would be an issue (Someone showed a few of them working fine a few months back, which is why I asked)

barbudreadmon

@Jiryn said in 3DO, MAME and FB NEO Question:

I could hear sounds, but graphically it was a gabled mess that looked like colored static with nothing distinct.

did you test both standalone and the libretro core ?

Jiryn

@barbudreadmon
Just the standard...
I should have tried to libreto core, but worried it wouldn't perform well either.

barbudreadmon

@Jiryn either way, you should probably seek help in the topic dedicated to mame current i previously linked.