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Tutorial: Handheld and Plug & Play systems with MAME

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    Folly @Retrodade
    last edited by Folly 1 Mar 2025, 13:16 3 Jan 2025, 13:06

    @Retrodade said in Tutorial: Handheld and Plug & Play systems with MAME:

    @Folly said in Tutorial: Handheld and Plug & Play systems with MAME:

    MAME Sets & Datfiles

    Thanks, I updated and updated MAME but they boot back.

    Run mame with verbose mode and check the /dev/runcommand.log .
    Then you can find what's wrong.

    Do I need to add the Datfile somewhere as well?

    No

    I seen pi didn't say MAME had an update, so am I trying to0 early perhaps?

    You should check your version of mame.
    Run a game that still works and use "tab" to go into the UI and check "about".
    Or check your /dev/runcommand.log after trying to run a game in mame with verbose mode, this might also reveal the version.

    If you have an old version, like 0253, and you recently updated the binary via the RetroPie-Setup then there is no new version for the original RetroPie image available.
    If so, then this is due to the underlying older linux operating system which cannot run newer compiled mame binaries or canniot compile newer mame source-code anymore.
    That would mean that you are stuck with using old roms and an old version of mame unless you create a new linux image, with a newer OS, by yourself with installing RetroPie on top of it.

    If you still can't find a solution then I recommend you open a new help thread.

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      DTEAM @Folly
      last edited by DTEAM 16 Mar 2025, 01:30

      @Folly

      Systems added (MAME 0.274 and 0.275)to the "All in one", "classich", "jakks" and "konamih" gamelist.xml files and to the module-script generator:

      text alternatif

      Elektronika Basketbol - elbaskb Classich
      Tronica Space Adventure trspacadv Classich
      Konami Chequered Flag kchqflag Konamih

      new MAME artworks for some systems here

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        Folly @DTEAM
        last edited by 16 Mar 2025, 07:52

        @DTEAM

        Thanks for looking,

        Strange that I overlooked some.
        I think the new classich ones are not automatically detected will have a look next time.,..

        Databases for 274 and 275 should be OK now.

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          Folly @DTEAM
          last edited by Folly 4 Oct 2025, 18:14 10 Apr 2025, 16:56

          @DTEAM

          I am busy with rewriting detection for classich drivers.
          A few extra drivers popped up :
          auslalom
          comparc
          comparca
          monkeysee

          I tested all of them and I think auslalom could be added.
          What do you think ?

          The other 3 aren't interesting to add.

          Btw.
          What do we do with tbaskb ?

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            DTEAM @Folly
            last edited by DTEAM 4 Oct 2025, 21:44 10 Apr 2025, 20:41

            @Folly said in Tutorial: Handheld and Plug & Play systems with MAME:

            What do we do with tbaskb ?

            It's already in the classich list. This game works

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              Folly @DTEAM
              last edited by Folly 4 Nov 2025, 07:12 11 Apr 2025, 06:12

              @DTEAM

              tbaskb isn't in mame anymore when listing the drivers.
              That's already the case for a long time now, I think more than 2 years.
              Do you know if there is a replaced driver.
              I know from 10 versions from mame ago it did still work but wasn't listed.

              Well if it still works and there isn't a replaced name in mame than we should keep it in.

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                DTEAM @Folly
                last edited by DTEAM 4 Nov 2025, 13:55 11 Apr 2025, 12:47

                @Folly

                I agree. I'll delete it from the list, but I'll keep it in the gamelist.xml because maybe they'll republish it one day. I didn't see a new name for that system.

                tbaskb is now tbaskb in the list above

                Good catch for Elektronika Autoslalom - auslalom Classich (added to the list above) . I'll update the gamelist.xml next week

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                  Folly @DTEAM
                  last edited by Folly 4 Nov 2025, 14:29 11 Apr 2025, 13:07

                  @DTEAM

                  I found the code explaining that tbaskb is now drdunk over here :
                  https://github.com/mamedev/mame/blob/master/src/mame/handheld/hh_pic16.cpp#L43-L44
                  So we should add drdunk instead.
                  Could not test it yet but I assume it's correct.
                  It's indeed good to keep tbaskb in the gamelist for backwards compatibility and, if it's correct, add drdunk too in the gamelist.xml.

                  Yesterday I found a few more drivers will try them and let you know.

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                    Folly @DTEAM
                    last edited by Folly 4 Dec 2025, 19:53 11 Apr 2025, 18:48

                    @DTEAM

                    These 3 also popped up :
                    tcfball
                    tcfballa
                    vclock3

                    I think the tcfball's could be added too.

                    Will run a new script to see if the manufacturer of drdunk ( Kmart Corporation) has more drivers.

                    Edit :
                    These 2 could be added too I think :
                    dunksunk
                    t3in1sa

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                      DTEAM @Folly
                      last edited by DTEAM 27 days ago

                      @Folly

                      They are all classich excepted vclock3 (alarm clock)

                      061f14e4-b9fb-4c48-baef-323057277558-image.png

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                        Folly @DTEAM
                        last edited by 27 days ago

                        @DTEAM

                        Was pretty sure about that too so they are already in the database for 276
                        except vclock3 off-course.

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                          Folly @DTEAM
                          last edited by 21 days ago

                          @DTEAM

                          Noticed that gnw_ball uses a plain Background.png for Retroarch overlay.
                          We could use the ballbg.png or the ColorBG.png background from the artwork file instead.
                          What do you think / prefer ?

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                            DTEAM @Folly
                            last edited by DTEAM 21 days ago

                            @Folly

                            I don't know. Go for the best one. If the coloured background is better, go for the coloured one. Good catch. Good catch. I only use MAME standalone and the MAME artworks format, so I never see the Retroarch backgrounds.

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                              Folly @DTEAM
                              last edited by 21 days ago

                              @DTEAM

                              I prefer ballbg.png to be the Background.png.
                              Can you change that in your artwork file ?
                              Please keep the old Background.png as backup in your artwork file, might be handy some time.
                              You could call the old backup something like simplebg.png.

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                                DTEAM @Folly
                                last edited by 21 days ago

                                @Folly

                                t3in1sa background should be exist, but I can't find it. Any chance on your side?

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                                  Folly @DTEAM
                                  last edited by Folly 21 days ago

                                  @DTEAM

                                  Will have look.
                                  No luck yet to find the artwork files.

                                  Could the artwork of t7in1ss be usable ?
                                  Just checked but seems we don't have the artwork of t7in1ss.
                                  And it doesn't match as it is from a different manufacturer :
                                  https://handheldmuseum.com/Tiger/7in1.htm

                                  This already gives an impression of how t3in1sa should look like :
                                  https://my.handheldmuseum.com/Tandy/3in1.htm
                                  https://gamesdb.launchbox-app.com/games/images/373404-3-in-1-sports-arena

                                  cd46cbd1-dbd4-46cc-ac4f-ab21a33cf51d-966355506.jpg

                                  Confusing but adb.arcadeitalia gives a different impression (however seems not correct) :
                                  t3in1sa.png

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                                    DTEAM @Folly
                                    last edited by DTEAM 20 days ago

                                    @Folly

                                    The good one is the one from adb.arcadeitalia (the last picture). That version is a single player game.

                                    New edit: Sorry, it's a 2 players game. First one is the good one

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                                      Folly @DTEAM
                                      last edited by Folly 20 days ago

                                      @DTEAM said in Tutorial: Handheld and Plug & Play systems with MAME:

                                      @Folly

                                      The good one is the one from adb.arcadeitalia (the last picture). That version is a single player game.

                                      That cannot be the case or that driver is called differently.
                                      This is how the t3in1sa driver looks without artwork.
                                      It matches the other overlays.
                                      t3insa.png

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                                        Folly @DTEAM
                                        last edited by 20 days ago

                                        @DTEAM

                                        Searched for the other one and found this :
                                        https://www.handheldmuseum.com/Tandy/SportsArena.htm
                                        Looked in the mame database and it seems it's not part of mame.

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                                          DTEAM @DTEAM
                                          last edited by DTEAM 18 days ago

                                          @Folly

                                          Systems added to the "classich" gamelist.xml file and to the MAME module-script generator:

                                          061f14e4-b9fb-4c48-baef-323057277558-image.png

                                          Now we cover 160 classich games. That's a lot!

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