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    tronkyfran
    last edited by 14 Nov 2016, 21:13

    Sorry, I just cant help jumping from one thing to another :O

    0_1479158011324_ms_controller_f.jpg
    0_1479158023302_nes_controller_01_f.jpg

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      tronkyfran
      last edited by 14 Nov 2016, 21:15

      Maybe we could use this controller images as runcommand images a lo Rookervik, just saying...

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        herb_fargus administrators @tronkyfran
        last edited by 15 Nov 2016, 03:30

        @tronkyfran sounds brilliant to me. They can also be alternates for the main backgrounds if people are so inclined

        If you read the documentation it will answer 99% of your questions: https://retropie.org.uk/docs/

        Also if you want a solution to your problems read this first: https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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          tronkyfran
          last edited by 15 Nov 2016, 12:16

          Steam controller:
          1_1479212156040_steam_controller_02.jpg 0_1479212156040_steam_controller_01.jpg

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            bite_your_idols @tronkyfran
            last edited by bite_your_idols 16 Nov 2016, 22:33

            @tronkyfran what about european users and our multi-colour snes buttons? XD
            excellent work!!!!

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              tronkyfran
              last edited by 16 Nov 2016, 22:57

              You are right, and being european myself Its unforgivable! I need to dedo the supernintendo one at least!

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                robertybob
                last edited by 19 Nov 2016, 17:41

                @tronkyfran

                Have you seen RetroEngine on Facebook? Looks like someone's going to try to KS some kind of hardware running Emulationstation with this theme.

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                  herb_fargus administrators @robertybob
                  last edited by herb_fargus 19 Nov 2016, 18:17

                  @robertybob yet another "genius entrepreneur" selling things that are meant to be free. kill one, three more take its place. neverending. Its pretty low to be taking @tronkyfrans work and selling it. Problem is facebook and kickstarter care more about money than ethics and taking things down is nigh to impossible. at the very least we can educate the morons who will throw money at it on how to make their own for much less money. no doubt the nes classic shortage is doing nothing to help the predicament.

                  If you read the documentation it will answer 99% of your questions: https://retropie.org.uk/docs/

                  Also if you want a solution to your problems read this first: https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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                    tronkyfran
                    last edited by 20 Nov 2016, 12:40

                    In fact, I gave them permission to use the images. I tell you why, I think I owe somewhat an explanation:
                    -First, they asked for it, they were polite, and at first it looked like a little business, so, looking at the retro world de are living, I thought it would be ok to allow some use.
                    -They are supposed to give credit(we'll see that).

                    • I didnt know they would use RetroPie or/and emulatiostation. If thats the case I hope they will vive enough credit AND links.
                    • I reserved the right to ask for the removal of the images any time, and if they dont give enough credit to this project(RetroPie), be sure that Ill use that right.

                    -They could have usted the images anyway, I found some projects that already do that(sigh), and really, what could I do? Hire lawyers? Waste money and energy in a hobby that its supposed to give satisfaction? I wont do that and they know, so at least de can hace some visibility.
                    -They "suggested" some future paíd work for me un the future. I know, I know.

                    Maybe Im being naive, but Id like to live in a world where I can help someone to make a living with a hobby.
                    A different thing is RetroPie as a project, much more effort is going into it and deserves to get something more than getting used(and well ser if abused) whithout compensación un any way. I think its ilegal,too.
                    Again sorry for my poor english, I dont know if I explain myself properly.

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                      tronkyfran
                      last edited by 20 Nov 2016, 14:35

                      Anyway, Im getting ready some things for an upcoming new theme that would leave this one pretty obsolete, stay tuned

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                        dankcushions Global Moderator @tronkyfran
                        last edited by 20 Nov 2016, 16:01

                        @tronkyfran said in Background images, coming back!!!:

                        I didnt know they would use RetroPie or/and emulatiostation. If thats the case I hope they will vive enough credit AND links.

                        that wouldn't be enough. it's illegal to do it. i'm also doubtful that they will only have emulators on that have a commercial license, as a lot of them do not. reading their facebook page i don't think they really know what they're doing.

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                          herb_fargus administrators @tronkyfran
                          last edited by herb_fargus 20 Nov 2016, 16:07

                          @tronkyfran

                          As you are the creative genius and you are within your rights to utilise the content you create in any way you deem necessary.

                          Here are my concerns:

                          I got into retropie/retrogaming primarily for nostalgia/archiving. It's amazing to me that I can play all my childhood games on a tiny little box.

                          I support the open source community because it is all about everyone coming together to make something amazing and because of that everyone has free access to what we make together.

                          Yet, it seems every day there is a new person packaging the work of the community just so they can make a quick buck on something that is supposed to be free.

                          As far as GPL code goes there are no restrictions on commercial use, however a good portion of emulators, emulationstation themes, and the retropie image all come with non commercial clauses in their licenses which forbid commercial use.

                          The problem with all these so called entrepreneurs is they take the work of the community, make changes to the code and close source it so nobody else has access to any improvements they may have made so the community loses out on those developments. It's a low thing to do and really kills the motivation for the people who really do the work on these projects and as you mentioned nobody in the open source community has lawyers or the money to enforce the licences.

                          So where does that leave us?

                          I'll give you some examples.

                          Mini emu: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sumbodesign/mini-emu-all-in-one-retro-game-console-raspberry-p

                          Made 80,000 Euros off our/retroarch's work. Money that could have been used for development. All he did was repackage a pi in a crappy case and doubled the price. As you can see from the comments, all his customers realised they were swindled as he laughed his way to the bank.

                          Nostalgames: which had raised 30,000 euros before they were successfully shut down for violating licences

                          And seems every day there is a new one that the retroarch team has to deal with.
                          http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sp8drl

                          In the end we can't enforce it, and it sucks. But it's people like that ruin open source because they care more about their own greed than the collective intelligence of society.

                          If you read the documentation it will answer 99% of your questions: https://retropie.org.uk/docs/

                          Also if you want a solution to your problems read this first: https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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                            tronkyfran
                            last edited by 20 Nov 2016, 18:29

                            Well, Ive been thinking a lot about what you both wrote and sadly, you re absolutely right.
                            I suppose I had to think in avance in this subject when I said yes to their request, but I didnt.
                            I will speak to them and if their answer is not absolutely convincing (and after what I saw, thats going to be hard to believe) about not using RetroPie/libretro /emulationstation they wont have the right to show the artwork anymore. It maybe looks like if I had wishful thinking(can I say this?), and surely it is that way. I know that there are a lot of people getting projects ripped all the time but ,fuck, I refuse to be paranoid till people show me how bad they are.

                            So,personally, knowing ugly things that I didnt before, now Im sad, but even more commited to make better artwork for this community.

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                              tronkyfran
                              last edited by 21 Nov 2016, 14:14

                              SNES USA fixed:
                              0_1479737628238_snes_controller_01_USA_f.jpg

                              SNES EU:
                              0_1479737643619_snes_controller_01_EU_f.jpg

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                                bite_your_idols @tronkyfran
                                last edited by 21 Nov 2016, 14:39

                                @tronkyfran said in Background images, coming back!!!:

                                SNES USA fixed:
                                0_1479737628238_snes_controller_01_USA_f.jpg

                                SNES EU:
                                0_1479737643619_snes_controller_01_EU_f.jpg

                                thanks!!

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                                  pjft
                                  last edited by 25 Nov 2016, 18:04

                                  Only now did I see this thread, and wow - these images are majestic!

                                  I am going to use these as loading screens for the roms, rather than the runcommand.sh prompt. :D

                                  Is there any place where we're collecting all of these images, or do I need to download them from the posts one by one?

                                  Thank you!

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                                    herb_fargus administrators @tronkyfran
                                    last edited by 7 Dec 2016, 01:17

                                    @tronkyfran

                                    https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/retroengine-sigma-mini-console-media-player-cool#/

                                    80k and counting. Sure hope you charged a percentage...

                                    If you read the documentation it will answer 99% of your questions: https://retropie.org.uk/docs/

                                    Also if you want a solution to your problems read this first: https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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                                      jb32647 @herb_fargus
                                      last edited by jb32647 12 Jul 2016, 02:31 7 Dec 2016, 02:31

                                      @herb_fargus "Developers who write software can release it under the terms of the GNU GPL. When they do, it will be free software and stay free software, no matter who changes or distributes the program" (GNU website) Is this indiegogo campaign even legal? They are, in the video, clearly showing it bundled with RetroArch, EmulationStation, and while they do not mention the SOC, it seems to be a pi, which means that it will also have Retropie and by extension Rasbian installed.

                                      The fact that they are charging money for this seems dodgy. Also it looks like a gen 1 Mega Drive, so I expect a cease-and-desist from SEGA-SAMMY at any minute now since they are now selling Mega Drive plug and plays, and this could potentially hurt sales.

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                                        jb32647 @jb32647
                                        last edited by 7 Dec 2016, 02:51

                                        @jb32647

                                        @jb32647 said in Background images, coming back!!!:

                                        it seems to be a pi

                                        Just double checked, they seem to running some kind of proprietary hardware, which raised the question: Can you edit Retroarch on this console, if not it is definitely in violation of GPLv3.

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                                          tronkyfran
                                          last edited by 7 Dec 2016, 20:56

                                          Well,no, Im not writing this with a mojito close to a bahamas beach, so no money for me. 160k right know, thats almost ridiculous!!!

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