Games stuttering a little bit

mediamogul · 2 Mar 2017, 17:11

@Dochartaigh said in Games stuttering a little bit:

OR, is it better to spend literally tens of hours researching things

I know this was intended to be the undesirable option, but I would always take a researched understanding of how things work over a clean slate approach any day. If you're constantly reformatting a drive to solve every problem you have, you're never learning anything that could help you more easily solve future problems. I guess it's just a difference in philosophy and I can actually see how attractive the nuclear option is from time to time, but in my experience, this approach is more likely to lead to a cycle of problems that are never solved.

@zulueffendi

is it possible to download an older version. Ie. The 3.8 you mentioned as working 100%?

I run RetroPie 4.1.12 with 38 systems and apart from some very minor exceptions, the current version runs very well.

knorde · 3 Feb 2017, 18:15

I have tested it with a usa rom but then the music plays to slow.
It looks like there is no solution for this.

I think i have to accept the "to fast music".
Or someone has a solution...

Don't understand why other people don't have this problem.
I have tested it on 2 different tv's en both are the same problem.

dankcushions · 3 Feb 2017, 18:28

@knorde said in Games stuttering a little bit:

I have tested it with a usa rom but then the music plays to slow.
It looks like there is no solution for this.

I think i have to accept the "to fast music".
Or someone has a solution...

Don't understand why other people don't have this problem.
I have tested it on 2 different tv's en both are the same problem.

you've not given us any information to recreate. what rom? what file name? maybe a video of the 'fast music' so we know what to look for?

zulueffendi · 3 Feb 2017, 18:57

@mediamogul yes but you are running a pi3 ... We are experiencing new problems on a pib+ where we didnt have problems before. And i overwrote my sd card where my b+ had 0 issues emulating the games i wanted.. the big problem i had was with forgotten passwords. So i thought id start over. Now im experiencing issues abd dont particularly want to buy a newer pi when i know the older one is capable

mediamogul · 2 Mar 2017, 19:08

@zulueffendi

I just read over your particular problem with NES speed, but I couldn't find a reference to what all you've attempted so far.

zulueffendi · 3 Feb 2017, 19:13

@mediamogul overclocked,. Used nestopia instead and used most of the resolution settings. I have dialed in to about 90% of normal speed now..

mediamogul · 2 Mar 2017, 19:26

@zulueffendi

Have you tried the RetroArch configuration improvements listed here? Alongside it's recommendation to set video_threaded = to "true", you might also want to try setting it to false as well.

Dochartaigh · 3 Feb 2017, 19:28

@mediamogul said in Games stuttering a little bit:

I know this was intended to be the undesirable option, but I would always take a researched understanding of how things work over a clean slate approach any day. If you're constantly reformatting a drive to solve every problem you have, you're never learning anything that could help you more easily solve future problems. I guess it's just a difference in philosophy and I can actually see how attractive the nuclear option is from time to time, but in my experience, this approach is more likely to lead to a cycle of problems that are never solved.

Supposedly all my problems, even through they repetitively occur over the course of building 50ish Raspberry Pi's, are all one-off weird problems that don't seem to be solvable dispite trying all different hardware, power supplies, SD card brands, different USB cables, even writing the images on different computers using different card readers...those ARE the type of problems where anymore I just reformat since there seems to be no other recourse (kinda like how the OP doesn't seem to have much more to try which is why I argued FOR reformatting and starting over!).

@zulueffendi

is it possible to download an older version. Ie. The 3.8 you mentioned as working 100%?

I run RetroPie 4.1.12 with 38 systems and apart from some very minor exceptions, the current version runs very well.

Try the newest 4.1.11 version on a Raspberry Pi Zero and tell me how well common Nintendo games run...your answer will be self evident. 4.0.2. and 4.1.5 are VASTLY superior performance wise on the most popular (if I can claim that ;) gaming platform of all time.

knorde · 3 Feb 2017, 19:28

@dankcushions
This rom:
[Redacted]
On the lr-fceumm emulator it plays the sound normal but the game is stuttering.
On the lr-nestopia emulator it plays the sound to fast but the game is not stuttering.

Later i will make a video with the sound (it play to fast).

BuZz · 2 Mar 2017, 19:32

@knorde because lr-fceumm is running it at the correct speed and the stutter happens since the screen refresh is 60hz vs pal 50hz of the game. Use an NTSC version of the game.

mediamogul · 2 Mar 2017, 19:52

@Dochartaigh said in Games stuttering a little bit:

Try the newest 4.1.11 version on a Raspberry Pi Zero and tell me how well common Nintendo games run...your answer will be self evident.

While I don't own a Pi0 myself, a local friend of mine has one and is able to run NES games without issue. Heck, he's even made a few for other friends of ours and they work as well. I would ask him what his secret is, but it's a bit like asking someone why their car doesn't make that same funny sound that yours does.

Edit: I am going over there tonight, so I will ask him some questions just in case it helps.

knorde · 3 Feb 2017, 20:15

@BuZz
I have tryed that and then the game speed (and music) is to slow.
I will record it another time so you can hear it.

The megadrive (sega) works perfect, it is really a nes emulator problem.

BuZz · 2 Mar 2017, 20:19

@knorde a video might help.

edmaul69 · 4 Feb 2017, 00:58

@knorde have you tried pressing a button before games starts and changed the video resolution in there with the correct frequency for your region?

knorde · 2 Apr 2017, 11:10

@BuZz
http://www.kene.nl/retropie/1.mp4 (normal sound but stuttering, Europe version with lr-fceumm emulator)
http://www.kene.nl/retropie/2.mp4 (to fast sound but no stuttering, Europe version with lr-nestopia emulator)
http://www.kene.nl/retropie/3.mp4 (to slow sound but no stuttering, Usa version with lr-nestopia emulator)
(sorry for the other sounds, my baby don't will be still while recording)

I think option 3 is the best option...

knorde · 4 Feb 2017, 08:41

@edmaul69
Yes i tried that but no luck :(

BuZz · 4 Feb 2017, 12:58

@knorde I'll check the videos, but please try lr-fceumm with USA version.

knorde · 4 Feb 2017, 17:39

@BuZz
I have tryed that.
It does the same as option 3 (see above).

It plays slower then original, but now with lr-fceumm as emulator (with no stuttering).

mediamogul · 2 Apr 2017, 17:56

@knorde

http://www.kene.nl/retropie/3.mp4 (to slow sound but no stuttering, Usa version with lr-nestopia emulator)

Video 3 appears to be playing at normal speed, sound and all.

mediamogul · 2 Apr 2017, 20:10

@Dochartaigh

I talked with my friend last night about his methods in using RetroPie with the PiZero and at first it seemed like a dead end, as he claims to do nothing more than install RetroPie, load the ROMs and scrape the artwork. Then I remembered that in previous posts, you've mentioned a lengthy checklist that you go through during each setup. Have you recently just tried a bare bones approach to where you do nothing more than load the ROMs? If that were to eliminate all of your unexplained issues, you could then systematically work through your checklist, being sure to test a game after each step, until you found what it is that's causing your problems.