Install AdvMAME 3 on retropie

tribunal88

@tribunal88 said in Install AdvMAME 3 on retropie:

Aha! You learn something new every day. Now "lr-mame2016" is showing up. Is that it?

Hm. I see that "advmame" is marked "Intalled". Perhaps I need to just update it. Should I update from binary or source? I'm guessing binary.

BuZz

@tribunal88 yep. Binary.

backstander

Sorry, @tribunal88 I was reading too many forums at once and got confused lol...BuZz is correct :-)

caver01

@backstander said in Install AdvMAME 3 on retropie:

lol...BuZz is correct :-)

He always is. ;-)

tribunal88

Thanks for the help. AdvMAME installed fine and boots xmen 6p, but crashes when I try to open the input mapping menu. It does indeed perform better than 1.4, though as there are no audio anomalies like I experienced before. Guess some work still to be done on it.

BuZz

@caver01 shh. It might go to his head!! :-)

dankcushions

we need to update the wiki for advmame 3! romset, etc. if anyone wants to do it? i don't use it (yet) so would be working 'blind' :) a search for 'advmame' will show you all the places it needs to be added to.

herb_fargus

@dankcushions should still be .106 no?

http://www.advancemame.it

Also if you aren't sure you can generate a list with advmame -listxml and run a diff against advmame 1.4

Also I'm more keen on integrating AdvMESS at some point...

BuZz

still same romset yeah.

caver01

Finally digging in a little here. . . some of you know I run AdvanceMAME 1.4 for a few things, mainly vector, but a few others that I can't run or configure for in 2003. Anyway, my image is a couple revs back and today I updated my retropie script so I could get AdvMAME 3.2. I watched it install, but I cannot select it in runcommand. What am I missing? Is there a manual setting I need to change?

<EDIT> Ok, I might have figured it out. All I did was added a row to emulators.cfg that looked just like the other advmame entries. This generated a .rc file right where I expected, then I went in and updated a bunch of lines, like the rom path and so on. Launch SARGE and for the first time, it is playing fullscreen! This is good, but it leaves me wondering if there are other items in the .rc that someone smarter than me has already gone through and corrected. For instance, adding both the arcade roms folder and the mame-advance folders, artwork (which I always redirect over to somewhere more convenient) etc. Is there a default?

I also turn of normalization of sound, set volume=0 instead of -3 which is default and so on. Next up, I will be checking out the video optimizations for vector to see if games play nicely at native resolution.

caver01

Last night, I was able to re-assign all of my advancemame ROMs with RUNCOMMAND to use 3.2. I looked at the retropie configuration script for the config changes that are getting applied to the other versions of ADVMAME on the Pi and made those adjustments to mine. This included things like the video to fb and sound to alsa, directory references etc. The new version now picks up my existing artwork as expected, highscores and so on. All of the control mapping is saved in the .rc, so I needed to go through my 1.4 config game by game and transcribe the settings. Not a big deal.

One thing I will say is that the video support seems to work a little better. Without making too many adjustments, I seem to have somewhat better control from the GUI. Also, no additional provisions are needed in the config for vector titles. They are rendering at the native resolution. Also, games like Sarge are now displaying in the correct aspect ratio filling my display--something I was trying to do with 1.4 and failing. It seems to be a little more responsive in games like Golden Tee variants, but that might be my imagination.

I am happy to make additions to the AdvanceMAME wiki, but I did need to create my own entry in emulators.cfg, then run MAME once to generate the default .rc file. Is that typical or a result of my install as an update?

Finally, I noticed a 3.3 is out now with "bug fixes", maybe as a result of player 5+ control mapping issues described here.

BuZz

@caver01 https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/pull/1894

This will be merged soon - note when it is and retropie-setup is updated all the advmame modules will show as installed - but will need updating to actually properly install/work.

caver01

@BuZz said in Install AdvMAME 3 on retropie:

@caver01 https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/pull/1894

This will be merged soon - note when it is and retropie-setup is updated all the advmame modules will show as installed - but will need updating to actually properly install/work.

Ok, so do you mean it will need updating using the"Retropie Config script: update this emulator"--or do mean it will require the user to do exactly what I did by manually adding it to the emulators.cfg and editing a .rc file? I don't mind documenting it either way, but a default .rc file dropping into place would obviously make the wiki updates contain little more than a duplication of existing versions. Sorry for the extra questions, as I expect time spent describing the plan could just as easily be spent updating the setup. As always, I appreciate the open collaboration.

BuZz

@caver01 im not sure what you are asking?

the advmame.rc config files are created by default and always have been. The only thing that has changed is it's one package per emulator and the configs are now named

advmame-0.94.rc
advmame-1.4.rc
advmame.rc (for the latest version which will be v3.3)

backstander

Did someone say that AdvMame 3.3 uses the same romset as 1.4? I couldn't find that info on the wiki (or herb_fargus' docs)

BuZz

@backstander It does - v0.106

Note my splitting up changes have now been merged also.

tribunal88

@caver01 said in Install AdvMAME 3 on retropie:

Finally, I noticed a 3.3 is out now with "bug fixes", maybe as a result of player 5+ control mapping issues described here.

Not quite. 3.3 fixed the crash for the xmen 6P game when using "tab" to map keys. But the author only recently patched the fix for 5+ player mappings in the .rc file into 3.4 after I submitted the bug report. It's still in beta. It will likely be out in a couple weeks if the release cadence continues as it has since 3.0 shipped.

Along those lines, I really like the change of dropping the major version number from the most recent release of advmame in RetroPie-setup. I think that's the right call given how quickly AdvMAME is being updated these days.

markwkidd

@dankcushions said in Install AdvMAME 3 on retropie:

we need to update the wiki for advmame 3! romset, etc. if anyone wants to do it? i don't use it (yet) so would be working 'blind' :) a search for 'advmame' will show you all the places it needs to be added to.

I took a first stab at this: https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/MAME#advancemame-3

There is no DAT link (although the AdvanceMAME 1.4 DAT should be correct for AdvanceMAME 3, correct?)

There is also no Compatibility List link yet.

herb_fargus

@markwkidd dats and compatibility list should be the same no? at least as far as content is the same as it is still based on the same romset, might have been a few bugs fixed with a few games.. how many hairs do we want to split on variations of builds within the same romset?

also to eliminate amibiguity, the setup script pulls the latest advmame so idk if we want to call it advmame.rc like is in the setup script or will we just updated the version number each release? I don't really use advmame so I'm not sure what the best way is to categorise it. you and dank seem to have a pretty good handle on the arcade docs

thanks btw

caver01

@BuZz said in Install AdvMAME 3 on retropie:

@caver01 im not sure what you are asking?

the advmame.rc config files are created by default and always have been. The only thing that has changed is it's one package per emulator and the configs are now named

advmame-0.94.rc

advmame-1.4.rc

advmame.rc (for the latest version which will be v3.3)

Sorry, I should have been clearer in my first post. I updated the RetroPie script, then I ran the update (binary) for AdvMAME and it installed 3.2 but it didn't create a .rc file nor give me the option to use 3.2 in any runcommand menus.

So, what I was asking is whether we will need to update documentation to instruct people to edit the emulators.cfg manually, run 3.2 once, and then edit the default .rc file it creates to fix directories etc., or is my experience indicative of incomplete setup scripts? As of a couple days ago, updating does not get you a working 3.2, but it can be made to work if you do what I did, and I can write up details in a wiki if folks need to do the same.