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    "Kiosk mode" very slow to load!

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    • RamsesR
      Ramses @pjft
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      @pjft

      Ok i have take the file without kiosk

      Now i install kiosk and take the file again after reboot

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      • AlexMurphyA
        AlexMurphy Banned @Ramses
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        @Ramses Please read this for other options. Read all the comments and recommendations and decide what is best for you. https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/8442/my-anti-kid-mode/3

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        • RamsesR
          Ramses @AlexMurphy
          last edited by

          @AlexMurphy said in "Kiosk mode" very slow to load!:

          @Ramses Please read this for other options. Read all the comments and recommendations and decide what is best for you. https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/8442/my-anti-kid-mode/3

          Thanks for the link i have read it.. and i prefer use KIOST/KID mode.. so i'm actually re-installing it now.. maybe with the log i will found the problem that slow down everything

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          • RamsesR
            Ramses
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            Ok i have re-installed kiosk, reboot with kiosk and everything work (except is very slow!)

            So i compared both es_log file: the only difference was the first line "date and time" But thats perfectly normal, and the LAST line.. when KIOST is installed last line say: "lvl0: Tried to use unset setting ShowHidden!"

            I'm actually doing search on the web to find out more information about this error

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            • AlexMurphyA
              AlexMurphy Banned @Ramses
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              @Ramses Doesn't seem major. Just something about what is hidden in the Kiosk Mode configs.

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              • RamsesR
                Ramses @AlexMurphy
                last edited by Ramses

                @AlexMurphy said in "Kiosk mode" very slow to load!:

                @Ramses Doesn't seem major. Just something about what is hidden in the Kiosk Mode configs.

                oh ok... so this log file do not help me at all....

                Well... maybe i can try to remove all sub-folder and "gamelist" file rom every folder to see if the problem still there

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                • AlexMurphyA
                  AlexMurphy Banned @Ramses
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                  @Ramses You said you were going to do that at the beginning!

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                  • RamsesR
                    Ramses @AlexMurphy
                    last edited by Ramses

                    @AlexMurphy

                    lol i know! but i have not do that because i was looking for a better solution (like manualy hide some menu item or other) but look like its not possible.. so now its time to troobleshoot :)

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                    • AlexMurphyA
                      AlexMurphy Banned @Ramses
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                      @Ramses You should have done that 2 hours ago when you said you were going to do it! You should never listen to a word I say in future...

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                      • RamsesR
                        Ramses
                        last edited by Ramses

                        Anyway, i have 3 SD card with the exact same image and a backup IMAGE of my working card, so its very easy for me to take one SD card and delete everything to do some test.. because i have backup on other SD card and an IMAGE of the SD card on my computer, so i do not loose anything by doing those kind of "test"

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                        • RamsesR
                          Ramses
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                          Ok, guess what, now after deleting all my picture folder and all my gamelist.xml from every folder it took 1 min 30 to boot..

                          So:
                          50 second without KIOSK
                          9 Min 30 With KIOSK
                          And 1 min 30 With KIOSK but WITHOUT any gamelist.xml and picture folder...

                          1min 30 is still acceptable.. So i think the next step is to move all picture outside ROMS folder and edit every gamelist.xml to give new picture path... wow! a lot of work, and not sure if that will fix the issue or not!

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                          • AlexMurphyA
                            AlexMurphy Banned @Ramses
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                            @Ramses Good luck! It's going to be a long night...

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                            • RamsesR
                              Ramses @AlexMurphy
                              last edited by Ramses

                              @AlexMurphy said in "Kiosk mode" very slow to load!:

                              @Ramses Good luck! It's going to be a long night...

                              Thanks, yep.. but if i do a "search and replace" in every file, i can change every path in few second.. so its not too bad...

                              Anyway.. i'll work on that and i'll post the result here

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                              • RamsesR
                                Ramses
                                last edited by

                                I have do many more test with that,

                                I discover that it took 9 min 30 to boot with the "Kiosk mode" installed.

                                But if i go in my \Roms folder and delete "gamelist.xml" from each system folder my raspberry now boot in 40 seconds!

                                Look like Kiost Mode dont like the "gamelist.xml" created with "universal XML scrapper"

                                I will try to scrap everything with the default emulationstation scrapper to see if it will work better...

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                                • J
                                  Jeck11
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                                  I didn't see above but forgive me if I missed it. Have you disabled "Save Metadata On Exit" and enabled "Parse Gamelists Only"?

                                  https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/FAQ#why-does-shut-down-and-reboot-take-ages

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                                  • RamsesR
                                    Ramses @Jeck11
                                    last edited by Ramses

                                    @Jeck11 said in "Kiosk mode" very slow to load!:

                                    I didn't see above but forgive me if I missed it. Have you disabled "Save Metadata On Exit" and enabled "Parse Gamelists Only"?

                                    https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/FAQ#why-does-shut-down-and-reboot-take-ages

                                    Yes i have played with those setting, here is the result i got:

                                    BOOT TIME:

                                    8 min 22 --> save metadata on exit = off parse gamelists only = on
                                    8 min 25 --> save metadata on exit = off parse gamelists only = off
                                    9 min 32 --> save metadata on exit = on parse gamelists only = off
                                    9 min 35 --> save metadata on exit = on parse gamelists only = on

                                    Here is some other result:
                                    BOOT TIME

                                    1 min 30 --> if no game is scrapped (if no picture/description/etc.. is attached to my game)
                                    50 sec --> With all my library scrapped but NO KIOSK MODE INSTALLED

                                    So the problem is that KIOSK/KIDS mode dont like when we add picture/description to large game library..

                                    KIOSK MODE is a very nice feature, but it is too slow to be usable in my situation.. probably because of some option it has: like the posibility to block some game to kids, possibility to set some game in favorite, ETC... And because of those option, the raspbery boot VERRRRRRY SLOWLY. And i dont need all those option, i just want to prevent my friend to acces some menu item (like scrap the game and other).

                                    So the only way for me to do what i want is to block the entire menu, but if i do that, i will have no way to "shutdown system" i will have to turn power off to do that and this can corrupt my SD card...

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                                    • RionR
                                      Rion @Ramses
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                                      @Ramses This is more likely a bug. Maybe @Zigurana knows more about this.

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                                      • J
                                        Jeck11 @Ramses
                                        last edited by

                                        @Ramses - OK sorry that didn't help. I'm currently using the kids/kiosk package as well but not seeing anywhere near the load times you are. I'm running on a Pi3 with 5k+ games and bootup and shutdowns are <30 seconds.

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                                        • RamsesR
                                          Ramses @Jeck11
                                          last edited by Ramses

                                          @Jeck11 said in "Kiosk mode" very slow to load!:

                                          @Ramses - OK sorry that didn't help. I'm currently using the kids/kiosk package as well but not seeing anywhere near the load times you are. I'm running on a Pi3 with 5k+ games and bootup and shutdowns are <30 seconds.

                                          Well, i have a pie3b too, but i have 31489 games, and almost all of them have picture/description and everything..

                                          ...maybe thats why its so slow..

                                          Like i said, if my game is NOT scrapped (no picture/description) it boot very fast in kiosk mode.. The issue is related to the fact that i have a lot of game AND all my game have picture/description in KIOSK MODE

                                          If i keep all my image/description and remove only KIOSK mode, it is very fast too (50 sec!)

                                          Like i said before: The problem is that KIOSK/KIDS mode dont like when we add picture/description to LARGE (30k+) game library..

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                                          • RamsesR
                                            Ramses
                                            last edited by Ramses

                                            well, i have do a lot of test to speed-up that in the last 10 days, but the only way i found to be able to have a descend boot speed is to remove games, or dont scrap game....

                                            Now i have 17 700 games and it took 2min10 to start ...

                                            Does anybody else have experienced this SLOW startup time with LARGE (30k+) scrapped game library in kiosk mode???

                                            Or does anybody have found a fix for that?

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