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    "Kiosk mode" very slow to load!

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    • AlexMurphyA
      AlexMurphy Banned @Ramses
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      @Ramses You said you were going to do that at the beginning!

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      • RamsesR
        Ramses @AlexMurphy
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        @AlexMurphy

        lol i know! but i have not do that because i was looking for a better solution (like manualy hide some menu item or other) but look like its not possible.. so now its time to troobleshoot :)

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        • AlexMurphyA
          AlexMurphy Banned @Ramses
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          @Ramses You should have done that 2 hours ago when you said you were going to do it! You should never listen to a word I say in future...

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          • RamsesR
            Ramses
            last edited by Ramses

            Anyway, i have 3 SD card with the exact same image and a backup IMAGE of my working card, so its very easy for me to take one SD card and delete everything to do some test.. because i have backup on other SD card and an IMAGE of the SD card on my computer, so i do not loose anything by doing those kind of "test"

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            • RamsesR
              Ramses
              last edited by Ramses

              Ok, guess what, now after deleting all my picture folder and all my gamelist.xml from every folder it took 1 min 30 to boot..

              So:
              50 second without KIOSK
              9 Min 30 With KIOSK
              And 1 min 30 With KIOSK but WITHOUT any gamelist.xml and picture folder...

              1min 30 is still acceptable.. So i think the next step is to move all picture outside ROMS folder and edit every gamelist.xml to give new picture path... wow! a lot of work, and not sure if that will fix the issue or not!

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              • AlexMurphyA
                AlexMurphy Banned @Ramses
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                @Ramses Good luck! It's going to be a long night...

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                • RamsesR
                  Ramses @AlexMurphy
                  last edited by Ramses

                  @AlexMurphy said in "Kiosk mode" very slow to load!:

                  @Ramses Good luck! It's going to be a long night...

                  Thanks, yep.. but if i do a "search and replace" in every file, i can change every path in few second.. so its not too bad...

                  Anyway.. i'll work on that and i'll post the result here

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                  • RamsesR
                    Ramses
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                    I have do many more test with that,

                    I discover that it took 9 min 30 to boot with the "Kiosk mode" installed.

                    But if i go in my \Roms folder and delete "gamelist.xml" from each system folder my raspberry now boot in 40 seconds!

                    Look like Kiost Mode dont like the "gamelist.xml" created with "universal XML scrapper"

                    I will try to scrap everything with the default emulationstation scrapper to see if it will work better...

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                    • J
                      Jeck11
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                      I didn't see above but forgive me if I missed it. Have you disabled "Save Metadata On Exit" and enabled "Parse Gamelists Only"?

                      https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/FAQ#why-does-shut-down-and-reboot-take-ages

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                      • RamsesR
                        Ramses @Jeck11
                        last edited by Ramses

                        @Jeck11 said in "Kiosk mode" very slow to load!:

                        I didn't see above but forgive me if I missed it. Have you disabled "Save Metadata On Exit" and enabled "Parse Gamelists Only"?

                        https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/FAQ#why-does-shut-down-and-reboot-take-ages

                        Yes i have played with those setting, here is the result i got:

                        BOOT TIME:

                        8 min 22 --> save metadata on exit = off parse gamelists only = on
                        8 min 25 --> save metadata on exit = off parse gamelists only = off
                        9 min 32 --> save metadata on exit = on parse gamelists only = off
                        9 min 35 --> save metadata on exit = on parse gamelists only = on

                        Here is some other result:
                        BOOT TIME

                        1 min 30 --> if no game is scrapped (if no picture/description/etc.. is attached to my game)
                        50 sec --> With all my library scrapped but NO KIOSK MODE INSTALLED

                        So the problem is that KIOSK/KIDS mode dont like when we add picture/description to large game library..

                        KIOSK MODE is a very nice feature, but it is too slow to be usable in my situation.. probably because of some option it has: like the posibility to block some game to kids, possibility to set some game in favorite, ETC... And because of those option, the raspbery boot VERRRRRRY SLOWLY. And i dont need all those option, i just want to prevent my friend to acces some menu item (like scrap the game and other).

                        So the only way for me to do what i want is to block the entire menu, but if i do that, i will have no way to "shutdown system" i will have to turn power off to do that and this can corrupt my SD card...

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                        • RionR
                          Rion @Ramses
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                          @Ramses This is more likely a bug. Maybe @Zigurana knows more about this.

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                          • J
                            Jeck11 @Ramses
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                            @Ramses - OK sorry that didn't help. I'm currently using the kids/kiosk package as well but not seeing anywhere near the load times you are. I'm running on a Pi3 with 5k+ games and bootup and shutdowns are <30 seconds.

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                            • RamsesR
                              Ramses @Jeck11
                              last edited by Ramses

                              @Jeck11 said in "Kiosk mode" very slow to load!:

                              @Ramses - OK sorry that didn't help. I'm currently using the kids/kiosk package as well but not seeing anywhere near the load times you are. I'm running on a Pi3 with 5k+ games and bootup and shutdowns are <30 seconds.

                              Well, i have a pie3b too, but i have 31489 games, and almost all of them have picture/description and everything..

                              ...maybe thats why its so slow..

                              Like i said, if my game is NOT scrapped (no picture/description) it boot very fast in kiosk mode.. The issue is related to the fact that i have a lot of game AND all my game have picture/description in KIOSK MODE

                              If i keep all my image/description and remove only KIOSK mode, it is very fast too (50 sec!)

                              Like i said before: The problem is that KIOSK/KIDS mode dont like when we add picture/description to LARGE (30k+) game library..

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                              • RamsesR
                                Ramses
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                                well, i have do a lot of test to speed-up that in the last 10 days, but the only way i found to be able to have a descend boot speed is to remove games, or dont scrap game....

                                Now i have 17 700 games and it took 2min10 to start ...

                                Does anybody else have experienced this SLOW startup time with LARGE (30k+) scrapped game library in kiosk mode???

                                Or does anybody have found a fix for that?

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                                • J
                                  Jeck11 @Ramses
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                                  @Ramses - why have so many in your active build? I understand keeping the backups. You could use a ROM cleaner to move the duplicates to another folder then scrap a manageable number.

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                                  • RamsesR
                                    Ramses @Jeck11
                                    last edited by Ramses

                                    @Jeck11 said in "Kiosk mode" very slow to load!:

                                    @Ramses - why have so many in your active build? I understand keeping the backups. You could use a ROM cleaner to move the duplicates to another folder then scrap a manageable number.

                                    I had over 30k but i have removed all duplicated and now i'm at 17 700 ..

                                    Why i have so many? why not?

                                    By the way, this tread is not about the reason why i have a large game library, its about the difficulty for "kiosk mode" to handle large library. And if i just remove 99% of my game, kiosk mode will continue to have difficulty to handle large library and next time someone use kiosk mode with large library same problem will happen.. So its better to find a way to fix that issue in kiosk mode itself than juste deleting all rom games

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                                    • dankcushionsD
                                      dankcushions Global Moderator
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                                      isn't kiosk/kids mode based on an older version of ES? it has had recent(ish) speed improvements that i guess aren't in the kiosk/kids fork.

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                                        Zigurana @dankcushions
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                                        @dankcushions
                                        This is true, i am in the process of merging in the latest changes.
                                        It will be a while though, as I am going through some medical issues in de family.

                                        If tetris has thought me anything, it's that errors pile up and that accomplishments dissappear.

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                                        • herb_fargusH
                                          herb_fargus administrators @Zigurana
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                                          @Zigurana take time for yourself mate. RetroPie will be here when you get back ;) wish you and you family well

                                          If you read the documentation it will answer 99% of your questions: https://retropie.org.uk/docs/

                                          Also if you want a solution to your problems read this first: https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/3/read-this-first

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                                          • RamsesR
                                            Ramses @Zigurana
                                            last edited by

                                            @Zigurana said in "Kiosk mode" very slow to load!:

                                            @dankcushions
                                            This is true, i am in the process of merging in the latest changes.
                                            It will be a while though, as I am going through some medical issues in de family.

                                            Ho! Thanks a lot for your answer!

                                            Take your time with your family, its not an emergency here! :)

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