[Theme Changes] Attention Theme Makers: Upcoming Game Collections in ES

[UDb23]

@capeman thanks for the tips!
I was using intersection to create the shapes to be used for shadows. Didn't think about using strokes, really clever idea.
Will complete the logo accordingly.

Will also give the program you suggested a try, cost seems absolutely reasonable.

[Capeman]

@udb23 I used to use Corel Draw back in 2000 when i started doing vectors, i used it up until around 2008 when i switched to mac, and since then i had been trying to find a good application that had the same bezier drawing ability as Corel. Illustrator is a powerful app, but it's drawing tools feel like they're stuck in 1998, its unacceptable to need 5 different tools to simply edit points and curves. Inkscape was the closest i found to proper point editing, but it was just too feature lacking. I tried freehand but macromedia got bought out by Adobe and freehand was discontinued about 8 years ago. So for a long time i just settled on using Corel in a virtual machine on mac, the experience wasnt ideal. Then finally a couple years back the Affinity package hit the scene, it was everything i was looking for, proper editing tools, fast new architecture, great price, no subscription, and a mac first mentality (it's since released on windows also). Sorry for the convoluted history lesson, but the journey to a good vector drawing app has been a long and arduous one to say the least. Consider this my recommendation for Affinity Designer, i can't say enough good about it.

[UDb23]

@capeman thanks for the valuable info.
I too started with graphics ( mainly for fun, not as a job) many years ago with Micrografx Picture Publisher (photo editing) and Designer (vectors). They were the main competitition to Corel products. Adobe being too expensive for private use at that time.
Currently using Lightroom and PSE 15 from Adobe (full license, no subscription as I don't like that business model as customer) for photography related editing (+ some retropie ;-) ).
Inkscape for vectors.

Will definitely check and probably buy the software you're using for vectors. Fully agree that inkscape lacks features and is quite unstable; it's free after all.

[paffley]

Hi Guys....

Looking forward to the new custom-collections. How exactly will this work for theming? You create the custom-collections dir then inside that have separate theme dir's with individual xml and images etc.? What's the plans to add the roms to the custom dir's? similar to the 'add' favorites inside the edit metdata ui?

Sorry for all the questions ha! I'm currently creating some themes and wanted the heads up really.

Love what you've done so far.....absolutely amazing work with the favs,last and all sections. Thumbs up

[mediamogul]

@capeman

I've been using Adobe Illustrator for close to 25 years now, so it's become firmly entrenched in my workflow. I also feel that it's earned the reputation as being the most powerful set of tools for this type of work. However, you make a compelling case for Affinity Designer and I think I might try it myself to shake things up a bit. The reviews have always been favorable and they're practically giving it away at $50. If nothing else, I would welcome a simplified routine and tool set for personal projects.

[Capeman]

@mediamogul I use illustrator in my professional workflow for making ads and all of my other normal layout based projects. It's a champ at handling graphics and embedded imagery... the deterrent for me is that in my personal work i do Illustration, and it's very heavy on bezier editing. Illustrator was created in a time when bezier editing was very new, and the tools had not been refined, but because people got used to doing it that way, they never changed the way the tools work. So illustrator does everything well except... well... illustration.

Corel draw came along and changed the basic way these tools work, inkscape and Affininty both use the easier Corel bezier tool structure, it's a world apart from illustrator.

This is my portfolio on shutterstock of my illustration if you want to see it, this is why im so particular about how the node editing tools work. https://www.shutterstock.com/g/aoshlick

Also because of the way shutterstock and other stock agencies work, every image in my whole collection doesnt have a single effect, or even a stroke. All line work has to be expanded strokes or drawn shapes (which i opt to do, its very time consuming). Working this way makes for very compatible SVG graphics, which is why I would be a great resource to anyone who is making vectors for ES.

If anyone wants to send me a vector that's rendering funny, I'm the man to optimize it, haha.

[mediamogul]

@capeman

This is my portfolio on shutterstock of my illustration

Ha! I love it! I'm especially head over heels for the hero tooth with the toothpaste pompadour, but they're all fantastic. Your technical skill is certainly on display there, but it's also immediately obvious that you love what you do. Do I also detect that you may be a fan of 1930s-40s animation and cartooning?

[Capeman]

@mediamogul Thanks! You detect correctly sir! Love me some old school! And the tooth is one of my best sellers.

[mediamogul]

@capeman

I'm a big fan of that original rubber band cartoon character style myself and have a pretty extensive collection of animation from that time. My two favorite creative forces are Ub Iwerks and anything out of the Fleischer animation studio. About fifteen years ago, I was lucky enough to work on animating a television commercial that parodied the "Let's all go to the lobby" characters and to this day it's still one of the most fun projects I've ever been involved with.

[Capeman]

That's rad! Just gave me an idea too, wouldn't a version of that specific animation, but done in pixel art, make one hell of a Retropie startup screen? Not that i'm volunteering, haha.

[mediamogul]

@capeman

It would indeed. I'm always keen to avoid copyright and trademark issues, but imagine Pac-Man, Mario and a few other notable characters stylized in a merger of 16-bit pixel art and that classic rubber band style, confidently high-stepping in line to the jaunty tune.

"Let's all go to the lobby and play ourselves some games"

[Capeman]

@mediamogul I literally cannot upvote that idea enough

[lilbud]

@udb23 said in [Theme Changes] Attention Theme Makers: Upcoming Game Collections in ES:

Fully agree that inkscape lacks features and is quite unstable

It does lack many features, chief among them would be a quick startup time.

The 4 stages of opening Inkscape, the 1st picture is when you click the icon.

[UDb23]

@lilbud lol!
I saw Serif also does promos from time to time. We may get Affinity Designer at a even lower price. I'm downloading the trial right now.

[lilbud]

@udb23 I really have no need for a vector software, I just have Inkscape because its free and I hate Adobe Illustrator.

Also, @mediamogul,

Hanna-Barbara > Fleischer

[UDb23]

@capeman Ended up directly buying it :-)
Will start playing with it over the next WE.
thanks again.

[mediamogul]

@lilbud

Hanna-Barbara > Fleischer

Ha! While I'll always personally prefer Fleischer's more classic character design and Art Deco background style, there's no arguing that Hanna-Barbara was more prolific in the long run. Their complete stable of characters, while lesser known, rivaled that of Warner Bros or even Disney. Cartoon Network's re-imagining of the characters in the early 2000s is one of the gutsiest and most exciting resurrections of aging intellectual properties that I've ever seen. My particular favorite was 'Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law'.

[lilbud]

@mediamogul said in [Theme Changes] Attention Theme Makers: Upcoming Game Collections in ES:

Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law

My favorite Hanna-Barbara cartoon is Tom and Jerry, hands down the funniest of them all.

[mediamogul]

@lilbud

An excellent choice for classic HB. Unfortunately their various resurrections in more recent years have been hit or miss due to a constant effort to cater to younger, more sensitive modern audiences. Thank God for the originals though.

[lilbud]

@mediamogul Tom and Jerry could never exist today in it's original form.