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    Problem with NES overlays.

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    • beastmodeB
      beastmode @Omnija
      last edited by

      @omnija Thanks. I'll give that a try.

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      • beastmodeB
        beastmode
        last edited by beastmode

        @pjft @tmntturtlguy I'm having some trouble fitting my NES games to any of the 1920x1080 overlays.

        Following 3 images show these settings:

        Aspect Ratio: 4:3
        Video Scale Integer: Disabled
        Nestopia Overscan V = "disabled"
        Nestopia Overscan H = "disabled"

        Everything looks fine at the start screen.
        alt text

        Some black bars on the sides, but able to see the complete image without cropping.
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        Right side of the screen seems to be placed correctly, but the left and bottom sides of the screen are completely messed up.
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        Following 3 images show these settings:

        Aspect Ratio: 4:3
        Video Scale Integer: Disabled
        Nestopia Overscan V = "enabled"
        Nestopia Overscan H = "enabled"

        Everything looks fine at the start screen.
        alt text

        The game fits the overlay, but there seems to be cropping on the top and bottom.
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        Cropping on the top left, right, and bottom right of the screen resulting in image loss. Notice the spider webs are missing.
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        This is the overlay file I am using:

        alt text

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        • TMNTturtlguyT
          TMNTturtlguy @beastmode
          last edited by

          @beastmode try going into retroarch and changing the video aspect ratio to set by core and see if that works.

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          • beastmodeB
            beastmode @TMNTturtlguy
            last edited by

            @tmntturtlguy that gives me pretty much the same output as in the first 3 images. Black bars are on the left and bottom.

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            • TMNTturtlguyT
              TMNTturtlguy @beastmode
              last edited by

              @beastmode What about setting a custom ratio? i would still set it to 4:3 but do it manually. Have you tried it with other roms in your NES folder? Could it be something weird within the rom itself?

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              • beastmodeB
                beastmode @TMNTturtlguy
                last edited by beastmode

                @tmntturtlguy It happens with pretty much all of the NES roms and most Sega Master Drive as well. I'll try setting a custom ratio. SNES, Genesis work perfectly.

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                • TMNTturtlguyT
                  TMNTturtlguy @beastmode
                  last edited by

                  @beastmode Well it is good to know that you have a few systems working correctly. I know that i have some roms that have slightly different aspect ratios than others, so that is why I was asking it it happened on all of your roms in that system. It sound like it is.

                  Just for the heck of it, have you tried to see what happens in lr-fceumm?

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                  • beastmodeB
                    beastmode @TMNTturtlguy
                    last edited by

                    @tmntturtlguy Same exact problem in lr-fceumm. I first had problems with that emulator before moving to lr-nestopia =).

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                    • pjftP
                      pjft
                      last edited by

                      I'd definitely ask you to post your RetroArch configurations for "all" and "NES" over pastebin if possible.

                      It is normal that some particular games seem to use different resolutions at times - on an original CRT things would either be cropped or sometimes have actual black borders. I'm not sure there will be a lot you can do in those cases.

                      That being said, we should probably at least attempt to minimize that effect here.

                      Send those over for us to take a closer look.

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                      • beastmodeB
                        beastmode @pjft
                        last edited by

                        @pjft Okay. Here are the links.

                        All Config: https://pastebin.com/LZnWbs4V
                        Core Config: https://pastebin.com/uJLE3V7H
                        NES Config: https://pastebin.com/T6kzhbGx

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                        • beastmodeB
                          beastmode
                          last edited by

                          @pjft @tmntturtlguy I was messing around with a few different overlay files and settings and have come up with different results. It does seem that some games have different aspect ratios or something.

                          Following images show these settings:

                          aspect ratio index = 22
                          custom_viewport_width = 1356
                          custom_viewport_height = 1012
                          custom_viewport_x = 281
                          custom_viewport_y = 22
                          video_scale = "5.000000"
                          video_scale_integer = "false"

                          Overlay File.
                          alt text

                          Ninja Gaiden
                          alt text

                          Pugsley's Scavenger Hunt
                          alt text

                          RoboCop
                          alt text

                          Super Mario Bros. 2
                          alt text

                          Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
                          alt text

                          The Simpsons - Bartman Meets Radioactive Man
                          alt text

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                          • TMNTturtlguyT
                            TMNTturtlguy @beastmode
                            last edited by

                            @beastmode It seems odd, but to me it almost looks like you might have to set the aspect ratio and location of each of your roms individually to get them centered. Hopefully @pjft can pull something from the config files you sent.

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                            • beastmodeB
                              beastmode @TMNTturtlguy
                              last edited by

                              @tmntturtlguy Indeed. If not, I'll just set them manually since there doesn't seem to be many. Much less than I originally thought. Do your NES roms glitch at all? Perhaps it's normal for them to do so, or maybe I have a bad rom file. In some of the games the characters will blink white, or disappear for a few milliseconds. Mega Man for example.

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                              • pjftP
                                pjft
                                last edited by

                                Sorry for the delay here.

                                I don't have a lot of experience with these kind of "border" overlays so maybe I haven't noticed this behavior in the past, even though it happens.

                                The top and lower borders are fine by me, but the left margin isn't right. It seems you're also using a shader - have you tried disabling the shader and seeing if it's affecting that in any way?

                                Reading your configs, and knowing that the NES resolution is 256x240, I'm wondering: in a 1920x1080p you shouldn't be able to fit a view screen of those dimensions with 5x video scale. Now, the fact that it's set to "integer" false, I'm not sure how it affects, but the actual scale is 4.21 for your values. Maybe change that and see if it helps in any way.

                                Have you tried setting it to "true" and "4" for scale, removing the width/height/x/y settings and seeing if the image in those games is effectively still off-center?

                                Sorry I can't help more here.

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                                • beastmodeB
                                  beastmode @pjft
                                  last edited by

                                  @pjft Thanks. I'll give that a try.

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