Raspberry pi 4 place your bets here!
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@Trailjacker @glennlake You are right glen, and I would like to see a better board for 50$... but I want to see much more then anything, is a 64 bit kernel.
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@CodeDrawer i payed 70 Euros for a purple one in a mint condition, like new.
Got it also from ebay from a german seller.
In combination with the everdrive it was indeed one of the best investments since i am a gamer (31 years by now ☺). -
@sirhenrythe5th yeah shipping I have to consider... it will cost more then the product I buy most of the time. I had 18$ of snes remotes, and shipping made it 54$
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@CodeDrawer ic! Of course: thats an issue 😔
I realize that prices for retro games and systems are very different between europe and overseas.
On the other handside i was in paradise when i was on a fleemarket in Pennsylvania in 2009.
Sega Saturn-Games for 1$!, you pay a lot more for them here in europe!Maybe you keep the idea of a real N64+Everdrive in mind for the furure - it is really worth the money for everyone who loves the N64/Ultra64 System. 👍😎
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OK one last thing, I got a 1 cent nes cartridge for Canadian French, and I thought why not! So I got it, shipping: 45$
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@CodeDrawer OMFG! 😱
Ok, one of my experiences: preordered a MortalKombat-Tournament-Stick and payed about 80$ for shipping and taxes (i live in germany btw).
All together i paid about 500$.Two years later i got one (brand new but without the bundled PS3-Disc of MK9) via ebay from France for 35 Euros 😲. So maybe us gamers are in the permanent danger to pay too much for our beloved hobby ☺
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@sirhenrythe5th I live in canada but got the cartridge from germany. Lets put it this way, use free roms if possible.
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@CodeDrawer 👍😊
Well spoken!!
Kind regards to Canada! ☺ -
@sirhenrythe5th Yeah, but it takes away from the retro feel. But I have a broken NES and I'll rip the guts out and pi it up! As seen in one of my posts. You can get broken consoles for pretty cheap, but that was just my old one.
If it works out, I'll make a post with pictures of the build.
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I'll throw in my bet.
I'm betting the 4 will be a disappointment, the foundation is heavily into keeping the hardware at $35 and they're pushing that now. There may be a slight bump in processor speed or a bit more RAM, but i'm definitely not predicting a bump comparible to the pi-2 to pi-3 transition, which was significant and game changing.
My money is on an incremental bump that focuses on speeding up the wired and wireless networking, bluetooth version and maybe some impovements to the I/O, faster sd card reading, etc.
I'm betting the Pi 4 will still lag at running PPSSPP.
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@Eldrethor said in Raspberry pi 4 place your bets here!:
@itsnitro The problems with N64 emulation are mostly at the software level and not so much at the hardware level, so throwing extra horsepower at it might not actually make emulation all that much better, but the Pi 3 runs PSX games surprisingly smooth for a $35 computer, even without overclocking. That and graphically, I think PSX games look even crisper emulated on a Pi 3 than on a PS2 or PS3.
I threw extra horsepower at it by using the x86 version on an old Core 2 Duo machine.
It is a night and day difference.
I'm not going to say any more than that, because last time I mentioned this I had a bunch of people pile on and tell me that N64 is fine on the Pi3 etc etc.
I only suggest that you try installing Retropie on a PC and try it out for yourself.
PSX runs flawlessly with all the games I have tried.
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@jamesbeat said in Raspberry pi 4 place your bets here!:
@Eldrethor said in Raspberry pi 4 place your bets here!:
@itsnitro The problems with N64 emulation are mostly at the software level and not so much at the hardware level, so throwing extra horsepower at it might not actually make emulation all that much better, but the Pi 3 runs PSX games surprisingly smooth for a $35 computer, even without overclocking. That and graphically, I think PSX games look even crisper emulated on a Pi 3 than on a PS2 or PS3.
I threw extra horsepower at it by using the x86 version on an old Core 2 Duo machine.
It is a night and day difference.
I'm not going to say any more than that, because last time I mentioned this I had a bunch of people pile on and tell me that N64 is fine on the Pi3 etc etc.
no, you didn't.
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So, I need to understand what it means when the chip is described as having four layers. Is this the 'four cores' that defines a pi3?
Let's say, just for example, I have a pi3 on my counter at work, and a customer (regular and on good speaking terms with) says something along the lines of
"That's a pi, I work for their development. We're experimenting with a six layer chip rather than the four layer version now"
At which point I would, had this conversation happened, have replied something like
"It's rather important to me that you discuss this further with me promptly sir."
After which, noting my apparent marginal knowledge and interest, this hypothetical customer becomes rather coy and refuses to be drawn further on the subject.Am I to infer something from this theoretical conversation? Which, in that very same theory could well have gone on marginally longer than my above (purely of course) imagined transcript.
(Redactions and theorem due to promises made, take from it what you may)
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I think this needs to be looked at from a different perspective. We are looking for a faster or smoother running game experience on the Raspberry Pi. I have been told that RetroPie only run on one core of whatever Pi is used. For it to run better the software, not the hardware needs to be upgraded to make use of the multi cores of the Pi 3
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@glennlake Genuinely, I couldn't tell you what it means or how it could affect Retropie. I know my pi3 runs games better and faster than my pi zero, but I don't know how it works. I was replying to speculations about a pi4, not emulationstation2 or Retropie 8.4.18.
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H.265 hardware decoder could be BOOM!
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@codedrawer said in Raspberry pi 4 place your bets here!:
@lilbud I'd like to be able to not have to over-clock the pi to play n64 games. How much processing power do you need to play n64 games without over clocking them?
You don't have to. My Pi 3 is not overclocked. I installed RetroPie on top of Raspbian.
For some reason the N64 only plays well from one of my USB cards with this RetroPie image I made. It is a 64GB SanDisk Ultra Fit.
I bought mine on Amazon, and the model I bought is no longer being sold. This one that looks just like it is being sold instead, and has all of the same overheating problems that damage equipment that the one I bought received complaints about.
https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Ultra-SDCZ43-064G-GAM46-Newest-Version/dp/B01BGTG3JA/ref=sr_1_31?ie=UTF8&qid=1503789130&sr=8-31&keywords=Sandisk+64GBI put heatsinks on my usb interface on the Pi, and the temperature warning no longer popped up.
The only game I can't get to work right is GoldenEye. The speed of the emulator can be increased while playing GoldenEye to a normal framerate, but then once I get to parts that don't have as much to process it just goes too fast. But the other games I tried work fine.
Dreamcast plays fine with Shenmue, except the protaganist's eyelids are inside of his eyeballs. But I downloaded Hydro Thunder, and it just didn't start, so that may just be a bad file.
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If one does come out, I want to see:
*2 GB RAM
*USB 3.0 supportI actually wouldn't be bothered if they use the same processor, since the current one can handle more speed than what the RAM can provide it with.
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@nastybuttler322 Any move forward will be welcomed by me! And in regards to the ultra slim, mine get stupid hot too:((
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@fruitybit said in Raspberry pi 4 place your bets here!:
@nastybuttler322 Any move forward will be welcomed by me! And in regards to the ultra slim, mine get stupid hot too:((
Just put heat sinks on your Pi like I did in the images, and try the N64 games from that card. The overheating problem shouldn't exist for you after.
Wazzz up
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