[Theme Changes] Attention Theme Makers: Upcoming Game Collections in ES

[pjft]

@mediamogul Hah, you are indeed correct! Forgot about that. :)

[UDb23]

@pjft Found some nice new fonts I believe would fit. As usual will update logos and custom texts over the weekend.

[pjft]

@udb23 Looking forward to it! I'm sure we'll have plenty of great options here to update Carbon then :)

Thanks all for the hard work!

[UDb23]

@pjft "controller" and Text icons for Carbon finalized (download here).

"Controllers" now all line art as requested (no fills); added one alternative "controller" for "custom collections.
Added new "custom collection" and "Favorites" texts.

(size should fit properly when in ES)

Can you test them and give me your feedback ?
Thanks.

[mediamogul]

@udb23

One thought off hand is that 'Custom Collections' is really close to the AdvanceMAME artwork currently in Carbon as seen below.

What about something that would evoke the notion of custom creation? There are probably more than a few solutions there, but one example would be an architect drafting font like the one below.

[pjft]

@udb23 thanks. I'll test them during the week, as I am unable to do so today. Thank you!

A thought on the naming of custom collections: that's actually mostly the internal name for it. It can end up being called that in the theme of you'd like it, but I don't object it having a more user-friendly name like "my collections", "game collections" or something.

Maybe I should stop naming things as that's clearly not my forte :p

Thank you!

[UDb23]

@mediamogul @pjft mmm...
ok let me think how I can get it right for both your comments...

btw: I referred to "Guardians of the galaxy" for font and colors for "collections".
Maybe different colors (metal like) could be enough and "My collections" as text ?

[mediamogul]

@udb23

Maybe different colors (metal like) could be enough and "My collections" as text ?

I think a change in colors would help to delineate the two logos nicely and metal seems like a great choice. As for naming conventions, it might be more cohesive to use 'Collections' rather than 'My Collections', due to the convention already existing for 'Favorites' rather than 'My Favorites'.

[pjft]

@mediamogul said in [Theme Changes] Attention Theme Makers: Upcoming Game Collections in ES:

@udb23

Maybe different colors (metal like) could be enough and "My collections" as text ?

I think a change in colors would help to delineate the two logos nicely and metal seems like a great choice. As for naming conventions, it might be more cohesive to use 'Collections' rather than 'My Collections', due to the convention already existing for 'Favorites' rather than 'My Favorites'.

Agreed. Ultimately, the naming I provided was more of guidance or direction than any mandatory decision.

In fact, as there aren't many themes yet with these features, we're kind of setting the standard for the future so make of it what you feel best!

[mediamogul]

@pjft

You were right about the logo sizes. The previous images I shared were mock-ups, but once they were actually added to the theme, they needed to be a good bit smaller. Also, I could have sworn that the front-most logo used to enlarge. Either that's been changed recently, or I'm a victim of the Mandella Effect.

[TMNTturtlguy]

@mediamogul you are correct, the center logo used to get larger.

[mediamogul]

@tmntturtlguy

Just out of curiosity, why was that changed?

[TMNTturtlguy]

@mediamogul I have no idea, lots of little things like this started happening with the carousel and and z index changes started rolling out. I don't think it was intentional.

[mediamogul]

@tmntturtlguy

Can't make an omelette...

[jdrassa]

By default, the center logo still gets larger. It is larger in all of the screens above. However, it is themable now as part of the carousel changes. Off hand I know that the nes mini theme doesn't change the size of the selected system.

[mediamogul]

@jdrassa

However, it is themable now

Ah, nice. That's definitely as it should be.

It is larger in all of the screens above.

They appear larger, but in motion there's no size change in focused logos. Could it be that the increased size was just never added back to the Carbon theme?

[jdrassa]

The carousel change did result in some tweaks to the default scaling. Previously, the height/width of the logo were scaled at different proportions (1.5x for width and 1.05x for height) . As part of the carousel change, this was changed so that they were scaling at the same rate (1.5x). This lead to complaints that some logos were too big. After discussion, the decision was made to set the default to 1.2x, which may explain why they may not seem quite as large as they did in the past.

Details about it can be found here:
https://github.com/RetroPie/EmulationStation/issues/126

[jdrassa]

@mediamogul said in [[Theme Changes] Attention Theme Makers:

They appear larger, but in motion there's no size change in focused logos. Could it be that the increased size was just never added back to the Carbon theme?

Hopefully my previous comment should clear things up for you. The logos are larger, but not quite as large as they had been previously.

Additionally you mention "in motion". Currently, the way the logos are handled, ES switches between 2 different logos (normal and large) so the logo just kind of suddenly becomes larger. One change that I have been working on is to actually have this transition animate properly so that the logos will appear to grow and shrink.

[mediamogul]

@jdrassa

the decision was made to set the default to 1.2x
so the logo just kind of suddenly becomes larger.

OK, I see. It's just been made a bit more subtle. looking at it closely now and knowing when the change occurs, I can see a size increase.

[lilbud]

@jdrassa Weren't you the one who brought up the idea of the carousel having an origin function? Like the selected logo standing out much more than the non-selected ones.