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    I need help with MAME on my RaspberryPi 3

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    • martinrdgzM
      martinrdgz @simonster
      last edited by martinrdgz

      @simonster Is mame always going to be changing their romset versions to newer ones? If so I would have to delete the old version and get the latest version?

      Insert coin to continue… Keeping retro alive since 1985.

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      • simonsterS
        simonster @martinrdgz
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        @martinrdgz

        You need the correct version of the ROM for the emulator you are using. Yes MAME modify their requirements with every release (but normally only a handful of titles are affected). The Pi is not really capable of running later versions of MAME sensibly, so we only worry about the sets that affect it.

        MAME is a constantly evolving project, they change filenames and dependencies as different methods of emulation are written. However 0.37 was defined in 2000 and 0.78 was defined in 2003. There is an optional lr-MAME2010 for the Pi which supports version 0.139 but this has a number of limitations, including a maximum of 2 players.

        Unless there is something you really want to play from a newer set that isn't supported on these versions, I would stick with these sets. The Pi is very slow on any of the newer releases (2014, 2016). I know, I've tried to get Virtual Racing arcade working, it wasn't pretty.

        FBA is similar to MAME but it's romsets and the scope of the project is different, rather than trying to emulate every arcade hardware, FBA emulates a small subset of these games by concentrating on games based on specific hardware.

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        • meleuM
          meleu @martinrdgz
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          @martinrdgz said in I need help with MAME on my RaspberryPi 3:

          @simonster Is mame always going to be changing their romset versions to newer ones? If so I would have to delete the old version and get the latest version?

          Man, your questions give a strong evidence that you didn't read the link I posted to you.

          I don't like to sound like an elistist nerd, but if a person is unable to read and understand the really simple and easy to understand MAME guide that @Floob wrote, then this person shouldn't try to play arcade games on RetroPie.

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          • cyperghostC
            cyperghost @meleu
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            I don't like to sound like an elistist nerd...

            No way!

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            ...but if a person is unable to read and understand the really simple and easy to understand MAME guide that @Floob wrote, then this person shouldn't try to play arcade games on RetroPie.

            Honestly MAME is sometimes difficult to understand and to setup, but you're right the guids here a helpfull and should be read 1 or 2 times :)

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            • meleuM
              meleu @cyperghost
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              Trying to help by speaking very very clearly:

              Pretend you are a RPG character and you meet an old hermit who will give you a the item you need to continue your adventure. But the old man will only give that item if you say the magic secret words.

              Now replace "old man" with "google", "continue your adventure" with "play Arcade games", and "magic secret words" with "reference set".

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              • cyperghostC
                cyperghost @meleu
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                The solution of your quest can be so easy.

                You're in a RPG and meet @meleu (the wise) at the beachbar who will give you rare item of "The Map of sapienti sat est" you need to play Arcade games. Which direction the character should go to? You can go N-W or E

                N leads to a wrecked and make dubious torrent tracker
                W leads to a huge and all knowing googol
                E leads to Disney Store

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                • sirhenrythe5thS
                  sirhenrythe5th @cyperghost
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                  Btw....a prebuilt 128GB Image sold for money?
                  Bad enough!
                  But a 128GB Image without the complete Metal Slug Series and even without Pacman??? 😱
                  Cmon, how big is it? 60Kb?
                  Might be a good think for lazy people, but i prefer to build my own setup to get everything i want, nothing more!, and even unterstand how it works and why.

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                  • martinrdgzM
                    martinrdgz
                    last edited by martinrdgz

                    Dose anyone here knows what I've highlighted in RED is? and if would you please explain it to me what it does.!
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                    • simonsterS
                      simonster @sirhenrythe5th
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                      @sirhenrythe5th

                      As I understand it @martinrdgz has done the following:

                      Downloaded the official RP image and installed it to his Pi
                      Downloaded a prebuilt image from elsewhere and extracted the roms directories to his PC
                      He is trying to copy the roms to his RP install

                      He is clearly confused about the rom versions, but hopefully is now on the right track.

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                      • martinrdgzM
                        martinrdgz @simonster
                        last edited by martinrdgz

                        @simonster yes you're 100% right

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                        • simonsterS
                          simonster @martinrdgz
                          last edited by

                          @martinrdgz

                          These are the ones I know.

                          "samples" contains a set of sound samples required from some early games (where the audio cannot be emulated for some reason or another)
                          "m37b5s " is the source code that is compiled to build a version of MAME that supports 0.37 roms (you do not need this)
                          "ROMs are Non-Merged" is a note that the Roms rely on parent versions when required (such as the 2 player version of turtles - tmnt2p, requires the 4 player version to work, as it only contains the different roms). There is an article in the wiki on Merged vs non-merged sets.

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                          • martinrdgzM
                            martinrdgz @simonster
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                            @simonster Thanks! Also I'm getting the .078 romset too

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                            • rbakerR
                              rbaker @martinrdgz
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                              @martinrdgz did you read this non technical guide I wrote?

                              https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/7247/guide-arcade-games-and-how-to-play-them-a-non-technical-mame-fba-tutorial

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                              • meleuM
                                meleu @simonster
                                last edited by

                                @simonster said in I need help with MAME on my RaspberryPi 3:

                                but hopefully is now on the right track.

                                The right track starts at reading the Arcade wiki. If this is hard to understand, this track can start at reading the How to use MAME with RetroPie guide or the link posted by @rbaker above.

                                Without reading the docs, it's not the right track.

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                                • martinrdgzM
                                  martinrdgz @rbaker
                                  last edited by martinrdgz

                                  @rbaker My bad, I might have missed it since I’m struggling with researching and understanding all of this, but I’m on it now. Again, I want to thank everyone from the bottom of my heart who has tried to help me understand and offered their support. Thank you so much, you all don’t know how much this means to me.

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                                  • simonsterS
                                    simonster @meleu
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                                    @meleu

                                    Agreed, I think the article by @rbaker is great. I just wanted to make the point that I didn't think he was using a third-party image.

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                                    • dankcushionsD
                                      dankcushions Global Moderator @simonster
                                      last edited by

                                      @simonster said in I need help with MAME on my RaspberryPi 3:

                                      "ROMs are Non-Merged" is a note that the Roms rely on parent versions when required (such as the 2 player version of turtles - tmnt2p, requires the 4 player version to work, as it only contains the different roms). There is an article in the wiki on Merged vs non-merged sets.

                                      pedant alert: it's the opposite :) non-merged means clones don't need parents; all roms work standalone: https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/Validating,-Rebuilding,-and-Filtering-Arcade-ROMs#crash-course-in-arcade-roms

                                      also, i don't know why OP is using mame 0.37b5 - recommended for pi3 is 0.78 + lr-mame2003: https://github.com/retropie/retropie-setup/wiki/Arcade#step-one-choose-an-arcade-emulator

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                                      • DarksaviorD
                                        Darksavior @dankcushions
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                                        @dankcushions said in I need help with MAME on my RaspberryPi 3:

                                        also, i don't know why OP is using mame 0.37b5 - recommended for pi3 is 0.78 + lr-mame2003: https://github.com/retropie/retropie-setup/wiki/Arcade#step-one-choose-an-arcade-emulator

                                        It's because he downloaded a 3rd party image with that installed and now he's wondering why his games don't work. Not sure why there's so many responses on trying to help this lazy guy. I stopped helping until he starts with a clean image.

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                                        • martinrdgzM
                                          martinrdgz @Darksavior
                                          last edited by martinrdgz

                                          @darksavior Look, I don't appreciate you calling me "lazy guy" when you don't even know me. I would like to be treated with the same respect I've been giving others. If you want to start name-calling, I’ll treat you the same way. For all I know, maybe you’re someone who doesn’t have a job and still lives off your parents' income, simply [you don’t understand the responsibilities of life].

                                          Now, I don’t think you'd appreciate me talking to you like this when I don’t even know you. If you don’t have anything good to say, please keep it to yourself.

                                          Also, you mentioned I’m using a 3rd-party image—what I did was extract the ROMs and delete the image. There's no need to get worked up like it’s a big deal. If you think it’s such a problem, I don’t mind deleting everything and getting the ROMs myself. And just to clarify, I never said the MAME 0.37b5 romset came with the 3rd-party image.

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                                          • sirhenrythe5thS
                                            sirhenrythe5th @martinrdgz
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                                            Folks, calm down.
                                            It is just about gaming, nothing to get in war.

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